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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Aren't you being a drama queen? Tragic rally accidents can happen even with a Fiat 500.

    Again, the risk increase is manageable if spectator control, driver eligibility and route selection standards get a proper attention, as I believe they’ll get.
    Of course tragic accidents happen, but WRC in current state can't handle one.

    But that's not the only problem here, for me the Golden age of rallying was around 1999-2007 when the Cars were easily recognizable, they looked incredible on the stages going sideways, flying, they were fast enough and loud. There was many drivers who were able to fight for the victories, we had people who just drove tarmac or gravel events.

    We're just getting further away from that. What I have heard about aero kits for next years, cars are almost un-reconizable from their road car ones with their massive wings.
    Now with DTM like cars which are too dangerous to give to someone who haven't had enough practice with them. I don't know how we're going to have new talent to rise from R5's to new WRC's. This will only lead to a situation where people like Camilli will rise since they have butt load of money and real talent to quit since they have no way to reach to the top.
    Fingers grossed for Lappi, would be a shame if VW situation is going to fk up his WRC seat for next year, which would add to even more to my case about wrong turns on the future of the sport.

    And you as a Portuguese should tell us others how to handle spectators since it's so well under control in there -.-

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    With increased downforce and active diffs will be more difficult for the cars to go off
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    With increased downforce and active diffs will be more difficult for the cars to go off
    Im not sure if it's going to work like that. There is more to the car which is going to make drivers to try even harder, drivers are always trying their hardest which eventually is going to lead someone to go over the limit.
    Crashes happen even in 100hp 2wd rally cars, but when you add 300 more horsepower and a massive aero kit to it, the crash which might be happening is going to be a massive one. That's a sad fact.

    Edit: Also better cars wont prevent the fact that car failures can always happen.
    Last edited by Essaj; 8th November 2016 at 22:40.

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    Meeke wales test 9
    its really ugly.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Im not sure if it's going to work like that. There is more to the car which is going to make drivers to try even harder, drivers are always trying their hardest which eventually is going to lead someone to go over the limit.
    Crashes happen even in 100hp 2wd rally cars, but when you add 300 more horsepower and a massive aero kit to it, the crash which might be happening is going to be a massive one. That's a sad fact.
    I still don't get it. When you go let's say 50 and go off how the crash of 400 hp car will be massive? Why would it be different if the car had 100 hp only? Top speed of 2017 cars will be probably the same because of that bigger aero kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Im not sure if it's going to work like that. There is more to the car which is going to make drivers to try even harder, drivers are always trying their hardest which eventually is going to lead someone to go over the limit.
    Speed will increase that's for sure, but also the car stability. No one knows for sure until we see it in action, but I believe there won't be a problem, just an opinion, as is Yours.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Cars usually don't crash in a straight line. Since cornering speed will be higher next year due to more HPs and aero, if an accident happens, it'll be for sure bigger than today.
    Viola ad oltranza...

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    Rally accidents will always happen. That's inevitable. Will it be bigger than todays, hmm I guess we don't know yet. How do You define bigger?
    Last edited by stefanvv; 8th November 2016 at 23:05.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    I'll make a quick example:

    Today you can drive round corner #1 at, let's say, 100km/h. You try at 101km/h and you'll crash.

    Tomorrow you'll be able to drive round that very same corner #1 at 120km/h. You try at 121km/h and you'll crash.

    So the chance to have a bigger impact will be higher tomorrow than it is today.
    Viola ad oltranza...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smsgrafica View Post
    I'll make a quick example:

    Today you can drive round corner #1 at, let's say, 100km/h. You try at 101km/h and you'll crash.

    Tomorrow you'll be able to drive round that very same corner #1 at 120km/h. You try at 121km/h and you'll crash.

    So the chance to have a bigger impact will be higher tomorrow than it is today.
    Let me make a quick estimation:

    How do You define the risk increase for the car, crew, trees (I presume the spectators will stay well in safe as of now though, more or less)? I see only risk for trees with bigger chance to be chopped off (this isn't much of a waste if we consider the Amazon forest danger every day).
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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