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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Maybe he's reflecting Citroen's team general feeling. Probably many still remember that it was Ogier who slam their door. If he had a little more patience he'd probably get 1st driver status one year later and would not helped VW's dominance...
    I just hope Ogier won't drive Citroen. It would be the old story again; the best team with the best driver. As the result FIA would have to figure out again a way to artificially slow down Ogier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariusz View Post
    I just hope Ogier won't drive Citroen. It would be the old story again; the best team with the best driver. As the result FIA would have to figure out again a way to artificially slow down Ogier.
    Again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    Again?
    Never heard of the "starting order debate"?
    Viola ad oltranza...

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    From a PR point of view I don't think it would be very good for Citroen to have Ogier back. If they win, it would be because of him. If they lose (and Meeke doesn't win, obviously), it's their fault. What do they have to gain?

    For M-Sport, on the other hand, it doesn't matter if they win because of Ogier. They would just win.
    Viola ad oltranza...

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    Not sure it was the exact words from Lefebvre, this journalist (ODW) is known for this kind of paper...
    http://wrc.is.free.fr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    pleurnichard
    (plśʀniʃaʀ, aʀd )
    Word forms: pleurnicharde
    Translations

    adjective
    [personne, ton] whining

    it could be also "sniveling" pleurnicheur
    "C'est une triste chose de songer que la nature parle et que le genre humain n'écoute pas" (Victor Hugo)

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    All these words to describe our 4-time Champion... and no-one disagrees !

    But have we thought it through.. what if he goes to M-Sport and doesnt win, what will he be like then !?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smsgrafica View Post
    Never heard of the "starting order debate"?
    Yeah, quite useless debate. We are talking about rallying, not F1. Starting order advantage/disadvantage is inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danon View Post
    Wow they sure moved fast, Ogier at Citroen with Red Bull sponsorship confirmed! :P

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