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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis44 View Post
    I am sorry but what are you on about?! If any company lies to it's costumers it should be penalised, if the small ones do so should the big ones. It's easy to lie and damage environment while filling your pockets.
    It's in fact VAG which enjoyed a competitive advantage through cheating. It's completely wrong to portrait them as some sort of victim of a higher eco-terrorist plot. I am well aware that they weren't alone but other's cheating doesn't give anyone a right to cheat as well.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Tell that to the 80+ people who've probably just lost their job you irrelevant, unknowledgeable clown.
    Word is the jobs are safe.

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    I am not afraid about the VW Motorsport employees. Even if VW fire them they must easily find a new job in a minute.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Toyota should offer at least one of the VWdrivers a contract. Imagine all the knowledge they are sitting on after testing the 2017 car for almost a year now. Guessing Ogier will go to Citröen and Mikkelsen and/or Latvala starting with Toyota

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    Wow, I'm quite shocked. Ogier to M-Sport like Malcolm always wanted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Can’t help it…I need to have a sincere NOT rage moment: VW’s board members are sick retarded bastards without a plan! Despite their millions euros wages and bonus they were useless defending their company and the car industry against dickhead eco politicians that will only be happy when humanity returns to caves. They’re a bunch of backstabbers unable to understand the nature and heritage of rallysport. I hope they all die on their electric self driving pieces of junk!

    Your rants are far better than that troglodyte.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    I am not afraid about the VW Motorsport employees. Even if VW fire them they must easily find a new job in a minute.
    I think luring FX and other senior engineers away could be very important too for the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis44 View Post
    I am sorry but what are you on about?! If any company lies to it's costumers it should be penalised, if the small ones do so should the big ones. It's easy to lie and damage environment while filling your pockets.
    Don’t be naďf; this had nothing to do with consumers rights. Modern wars are taken at the Markets and like the old ones they’re ugly and bloody. VW was another European sitting duck company blown up by the US authorities. Comparing to GM’s faulty ignition process or Exxon Valdez affair anyone can notice that VW and BP scandals damage control were totally ineffective because of American protectionism.

    VW’s WRC pull out may not be directly linked to dieselgate’s financial burdens, like it has been suggested. The emission scandal repercussions spread widely into many circles of our global society and some of them tried very hard to take advantage. The ecologist lobbies, with vast media connections able to influence public opinion, are among those. VW was fast and massively pressured by opinion makers and politicians* to let down their efficient combustion engines and speed out the development of other technologies, regarded as eco friendly.

    This ‘pollution burden’ was probably the main reason for Audi and VW motorsport withdrawals and it may affect other manus and series. WRC needs to get clever and do some hard PR work in order to show everyone this is a sport that deeply respects Nature and effectively helps to preserve the environment.


    *http://www.reuters.com/article/us-au...-idUSKCN1280G7
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    Quote Originally Posted by TWRC View Post
    I think luring FX and other senior engineers away could be very important too for the others.
    very good point TWRC!

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    VW mechanics and engineers... Top people in their departments also without work for next year. Should they be signed by teams it means other workers are without jobs..

    And not to forget the car, probably a sophisticated machine never to see the stages. What a waste....
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