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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariusz ` View Post
    You really need to tell us your definition of flop, because without it we'll never know if you were right.
    suzuki and mini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack4688` View Post
    ... Anything penned by David Evans is just pure sensationalism

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    suzuki and mini.
    Nah, very wrong example. Nor Suzuki or Mini factories were involved back then. Didn´t even help them moving on.

    Toyota on the contrary, finances the whole project.

    Are you God?
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Nah, very wrong example. Nor Suzuki or Mini factories were involved back then. Didn´t even help them moving on.

    Toyota on the contrary, finances the whole project.

    Are you God?
    That is why the flop of village people will be even more spectacular... it will be a nice feast though of all the finish failures of the past.

    Everyone is invited to join the flop guys, just do not jump into conclusions too fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Are you God?
    You do know this isn't a question, right? Sorry for OT.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    The proof will be in the stage times for sure.

    It does remind me a bit of the Nissan LMP1 situation that happened recently. You started to get rumblings from inside the project that things weren't going well and they couldn't attract drivers. There's no smoke without fire as they say. But I don't subscribe to the theory that there are people in the sport that want to see Toyota fail. Who does that really benefit? Despite people loving bad news, surely the better storylines are if they beat VW/Ogier.

    What Nissan did have that Toyota don't was PR and social media across the programme. Really the only information we find out is when Tommi picks up the phone to a journalist or gets interviewed at a rally. It continues to be a massive missed opportunity and people fill the space with rumours. That said, Nissan made such a big noise about their Le Mans programme that when it did tank it added up to massive humiliation. Toyota have made no noise about their WRC programme.
    I agree 100 percent about the fact that the rumors stem entirely from the lack of updates from the team.

    Lack of information always create rumors and misinformation, it's human nature.

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    A driver that could be intersting for Toyota is actually PG Andersson, he still have a lot of unfinished business in the WRC.
    https://www.facebook.com/noseendfirst?ref=hl#

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    Agree with Lundefaret. And i like Juho. Give him a proper chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    Agree with Lundefaret. And i like Juho. Give him a proper chance.
    Yes, proper chance means drive as many WRC rallies as possible. Look at Tanak... for example.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    P.G. is 36 years old and has been out of the circus for quite a long time. I can't see how any team would be intrested in him considering that he would need at least a season or two of learning like anybody else.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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