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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross99 View Post
    I still hold on to my statement. Sordo is mediocre on gravel and even if he wasn't starting 2nd, he would only fight with the Fords for 9th-10th at best.
    He was 4th in ALL gravel rounds of 2016 season until now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raini View Post
    Different rally winners are only good to rallysport, dont remember even, when so many different drivers won within 6 rallies. But yes, the new generation of young guns are getting more and more comfortable in rally car and this year shows the result of hard working rally teams and drivers very well. But yes, if 5th - 9th place drivers are capable to win a rally, it is only a exciting thing to rallysport.
    Fun with younger drivers start driving fast. The question to ask is how well has this generation been. Loeb, of course, and perhaps Ogier, but then? If you think of the 90s with Sainz, McRae, Burns, Eriksson, Mäkkinen, Kankunen, Auriol, Gronholm with more so there was always 5 maybe 10 drivers who could win a race. Feels like it's been very thin at the top the last 10 years and too easy for Loeb and Ogier to line up the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELPE View Post
    Fun with younger drivers start driving fast. The question to ask is how well has this generation been. Loeb, of course, and perhaps Ogier, but then? If you think of the 90s with Sainz, McRae, Burns, Eriksson, Mäkkinen, Kankunen, Auriol, Gronholm with more so there was always 5 maybe 10 drivers who could win a race. Feels like it's been very thin at the top the last 10 years and too easy for Loeb and Ogier to line up the championship.
    Or it was vice versa. Who can tell? Maybe just Loeb and Ogier are so exceptional that the others look worse than they are? Don't forget that Loeb sent one whole generation of these drivers to retirement...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Or it was vice versa. Who can tell? Maybe just Loeb and Ogier are so exceptional that the others look worse than they are? Don't forget that Loeb sent one whole generation of these drivers to retirement...
    And then Ogier sent Loeb in retirement.
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    No, he didn't. When Loeb retired Ogier didn't defeat him every here and there, quite the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    No, he didn't. When Loeb retired Ogier didn't defeat him every here and there, quite the opposite.
    You mean 2009?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    You mean 2009?

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