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    Is Dani Sordo in this rally?... OK, timewise he is not so far behind but positionwise...bleh! (I used to be a fan)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lundefaret View Post
    Hope they change it back to one day sweeping next year. Its a little ridiculous with Ogier almost a minute behind.
    It’d be nuts to keep the current starting rule next season, as ’17 new cars will be a sort of reset for WRC. For sure VW has some guarantee that this issue will be fixed next year and probably the pressure they were making (and eased up a bit before Italy) was a failed attempt to see that change happening during this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido View Post
    Is Dani Sordo in this rally?... OK, timewise he is not so far behind but positionwise...bleh! (I used to be a fan)
    You can see how much the road order affects in Poland. Which makes Mikkelsen together with Tanak the men of the rally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    You can see how much the road order affects in Poland. Which makes Mikkelsen together with Tanak the men of the rally.
    Actually we can't see how much it affects the results. We know it does but we don't know how much. For example is the difference between running first and third so bad that Mikkelsen is 40 seconds ahead of Ogier? How come that Latvala is on the very same pace as Ogier while is running a lot more down the order? I tend to believe that it's not only about sweeping but more about the things in Ogier's head like Lunde said (which is of course related to sweeping).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Actually we can't see how much it affects the results. We know it does but we don't know how much. For example is the difference between running first and third so bad that Mikkelsen is 40 seconds ahead of Ogier? How come that Latvala is on the very same pace as Ogier while is running a lot more down the order? I tend to believe that it's not only about sweeping but more about the things in Ogier's head like Lunde said (which is of course related to sweeping).
    You have a point of course, but this happens to Sordo now as well, not only Ogier. And Sordo is doing very good job so far this season.
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    I think the image below would describe EstWRC if Tanak doesn't bin it...


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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    You have a point of course, but this happens to Sordo now as well, not only Ogier. And Sordo is doing very good job so far this season.
    But Sordo has never been good in these fast gravel rallies like Poland and Finland.

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    Now I see that Aasen also rolled on previous stage and had to retire.
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    Tänak saying no grip but didn't lost much on this longest stage. Cmon dmack!!!!

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    I think Sordo is affected by both position and his lack of speed on this type of rally.

    Also I have a feeling some drivers that say they are pushing but not getting the times are overdriving and instead losing time, Camilli for example. Sordo and Latvala seemed to be the only one that recognised their driving was not up to par and that's why they are not where they're supposed to be.

    the top 3 are in a different class on this rally, on some stages Neuville too. Paddon is making some mistakes, maybe trying to hard, and losing some time because of that. Tanak and Mikkelsen have been more efficient so far.

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