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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    OK slow down and look at one element at a time..
    The Concentration run yes was done on open roads.. and the route was "FREE" except you must pass thru and be stamped at certain Passage Controls....and if the Passage Control is situated in an how shall we say "interesting" location, that means when you start from Warsava or Smolensk you will have to eventually PASS down this or that road--you have to get there.
    And depending on how the Passage Controls are situated, the route can be pretty "interesting" to do in the middle of winter..
    So technical challenge, no.."Sporting" maybe, but mental adventure for the driver/co-driver and fans following the progress for a week..potentially very good.
    And that is why old people should not be allowed near PCs

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    Nobody cares
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Sorry Jan, the reason why You can't do Monte across the whole Europe is that there is completely different level of traffic and You simply can't close the international public roads without creating a complete traffic collapse everywhere around. In those days they drove on opened roads which is complete nonsense for today as somebody would be killed probably already in first few hours of the event.

    Also, where is any sporting value (today) of driving for example from Poland to Monte Carlo when You can theoretically do nearly the whole route on rpm limiter?

    Another point... How can You realisitically cope with different law, different bunch of bureaucrats, different local authorities and different languages in every single state You would go through?
    The Monte is done every year in the "historic" way, its called the Monte Carlo Rally "Historique", and its a great experience.
    The reason that should be done also today is that it would be a unique way to bring motorsport to the people (which rallying has an exeptional potential to do.)
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    I mentioned the Monte Carlo Historique in my following post.

    Anyway I still don't see why any team should want to drive thousands of completely useless kilometers with their rally cars? Who would pay that and why when it has no sporting value?

    PS Monte Carlo used to pass through the place where I was born in the distant past. We also used to have a big motorcycle race on the public roads around the town. It was nice in that time but it's history. Nothing else.
    Last edited by Mirek; 3rd June 2016 at 23:05.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    And that is why old people should not be allowed near PCs
    You know NOT, being old doesn’t mean not having any knowledge how to use computers or the applications.

    Although I’m old I’ve been living with PC’s since 1986, so your justification is not correct and that probably also concern Jan.
    Jan, if you feel bad…

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    Although I’m old I’ve been living with PC’s since 1986
    Wow, You are old. One of the pioneers in IBM (perhaps) PC users, cool. Internet (not in its current form of course) is even older I think.

    EDIT: BTW that's nearly the same time I wrote my first software program, am I old too
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    Wow this is interesting news...

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    No it's not
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    I´m not saying "new" Monte should be a solution, however Jan has a good point. Rallying (the word) is about gathering, right? So MC in it´s old form was very spectacular. I notice that many of you youngsters even not understand what we oldies talking about when hinting that some things were better back in the old days.

    Back to MC in the 60´s. Starts all over Europe, like from Stockholm, Oslo whatever more places. Big news in media back then.

    Making WRC more interesting isn´t easy these days when there´s only money rules. It´s a competiton against other sports, motorsports, X-games etz. having a WRC rally in Indonesia doesn´t make anyone more happy.
    Solutions? I don´t know. Back to basic? Longer rallies? Enduro-thinking? Maybe.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Making WRC more interesting isn´t easy these days when there´s only money rules. It´s a competiton against other sports, motorsports, X-games etz. having a WRC rally in Indonesia doesn´t make anyone more happy.
    Solutions? I don´t know. Back to basic? Longer rallies? Enduro-thinking? Maybe.
    Doesn't work. Current rallies should cut costs, i.e. repeat the morning stages in the afternoon and make the mandatory 3rd day a joke with few sprint stages. Rally will never will be what it has been, money rules..... The really bad part of this is running order, it doesn't make any difference with 2 long days and last extremely short, the thrill is over......
    Last edited by stefanvv; 4th June 2016 at 00:04.
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