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    It will be interesting how this team will work out indeed. I don't see any problem with Tommi testing the car at the moment, because even though he basically hasn't driven any WRC for over a decade now, he's not an idiot, and he can tell if something is working or not. Remembering how the Hyundai looked in 2013 and comparing it to the Yaris, I say they'll be at least decent (but I'm not an expert on this either).
    As far as the team structure goes, I think they're still figuring things out how that should be working. Give them time, and if they flop they flop, but hopefully they won't.

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    Toyota did not become the worlds largest car manufacturer by being stupid.

    Toyota are very conscious of having a positive image in motorsport

    "Kaizen" is a key word in all of Toyota's operations.

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    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    First was “it should be TMG”, then “Toyoda is naive” and “Finland isn’t handy”, a couple a weeks ago was “he’s not on schedule” now “Tommi’s too active” and “the team is too much international”, next it’ll probably be “he can’t pick drivers”…Jesus guys, give the man and his team a break and praise their hard work a bit more.
    Now, that is spot on man. If I were better in english I´d put it that way.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000 View Post
    Toyota did not become the worlds largest car manufacturer by being stupid.

    Toyota are very conscious of having a positive image in motorsport

    "Kaizen" is a key word in all of Toyota's operations.
    Yet, the F1 project wasn't successful and the latest R3 and R1 attemps ended as a disaster even in the lowest rally category...
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    the latest R3 and R1 attemps ended as a disaster even in the lowest rally category...
    I completely forgot about the Yaris R1 project... whatever happened to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Yet, the F1 project wasn't successful and the latest R3 and R1 attemps ended as a disaster even in the lowest rally category...
    And Honda (another Japanese car company) is not covering itself in glory in F1. Maybe a comparison too far...

    I did like Janvanvurpa's (?) comment about the Finns being naturally quiet. I am doing a project with Japanese and Italians, The Japanese will do what you ask, think about things long and hard and focus on the detail. The wild creative ideas come from the italians. Its chaos to make it all work, but it seems to. The japanese when the present to the client, its all thought out and they won't show the client until it is. The Italians will openly argue and debate in front of the client and with the client. Japanese and Finns would be an interesting mix.

    And yes, the Japanese will not challenge authority. If Tommi is in charge he is the boss and will be right. Not necessarily a bad thing if he is always right.

    Diversity in teams is good.

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    There are a few former M-Sport people in Tommi Makinen Toyota. Is there a place for pickems/ rankings for the rally engineers and technical directors etc?
    https://rallyparadise.wordpress.com/...ngs-team-struc
    I would assume with the mix of M-Sport, Prodrive and Ralliart experience there will be the meetings, reviews, progress reports etc to move the Yaris project forward.
    Last edited by Zeakiwi; 19th May 2016 at 01:50.

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