Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
2014 Red Bull Statistics:
Qualifying: Ricciardo 12 - 7
Race finish: Ricciardo 11 - 3
Laps ahead: Ricciardo 483 - 448
Points: Ricciardo 238 - 167

Even accounting for reliability and racing incidents that isn't really that close.



Be that as it may, that would put Ricciardo ahead of Raikkonen on current form, well ahead of Webber when he was Vettel's team-mate (Mark admits this).



He beat the reigning 4-time World Champion in the same car, which was not a championship winning machine.

Sometimes I think you believe that no one is better than Vettel, and create your reasoning from there.

For the record, Ricciardo's 2016 results:
Australia: 4th
Bahrain: 4th
China: 4th (after getting a puncture when leading, then dropping back to 17th)
Russia: 11th (after Turn 2 incident that wrecked his race)



There is no other meaningful comparison between Ricciardo and Vettel in the same car, bad season or not.



Kimi Raikkonen hasn't driven a great race since 2013 when Grosjean was his team-mate.

He is easily the most overrated and overpaid driver on the grid.
And let's not forget Singapore qualifying where Vettel came over the radio to the pitwall apologising for yet another botched qualifying lap, stating that every time he tries to push he loses it. That was well into the second half of the season at that point, you'd think Vettel would have been used to the new car characteristics by then lol!

Ass handed might be the wrong description, perhaps humiliated by Danny would be more apt!