[WRC] News & rumours (part IV) 2016

[N.O.T]

So obviously you don't know the answer either, but you thought you would just type something.
18000 posts by you in 16 years, the long winter nights must just fly by.

the answer is NO, you will not see the old cars on a WRC event.

[rallyfiend]

the answer is NO, you will not see the old cars on a WRC event.

Actually, I think you're wrong.

I believe the FIA is considering a second tier 'cup' for the old cars...

[N.O.T]

Actually, I think you're wrong.

I believe the FIA is considering a second tier 'cup' for the old cars...

with the current rules they will not be on a WRC stage...

IF we start imagining things and taking into account considerations even group B cars could take part in 2017.

And people how many times do i have to repeat this ? I am never wrong... the reality you just live in is just not good enough.

[pantealex]

Off the topic and not quite sure where to ask this question or if it's been discussed before, but do the current crop of WRC cars have a place in the 2017 championship and onwards.
Are they still be able to complete in WRC events? Not for points obviously, but can a gentleman driver for example enter a 2016 Fiesta or DS3 in the 2017 Monte Carlo? Will they be redundant as far as World Rally is concerned at the end of 2016.

Yes you can, all 1.6T WRC are eligible 2017, for points also, just like you can points now with WRC2/R5 car.

[dodge33cymru]

Yeah, banning the old cars only makes sense when the new ones have their speeds cut. In this case, they're making them quicker so makes perfect sense to allow them in, just as R5 cars caused RRCs to die, but R4s are still eligible.

[dimviii]

Drivers of 2017 World Rally Cars must be approved by FIA



The use of 2017's faster-than-ever World Rally Cars will be restricted to drivers the FIA feels are competent enough to compete in them.

There has been concern in the service park about the increased speed from the new cars, prompting calls from the current top-line drivers to restrict access.

Some drivers mooted the potential for a Formula 1-style superlicence for rallying - but the FIA's rally director Jarmo Mahonen says he does not want go down that route.

Instead he will implement strict controls on the use of cars by any driver lacking in experience.

"What about guys like Bryan Bouffier?" Mahonen said.

"These guys do one or two rallies per year. [Robert] Kubica is another one.

"We don't want to have a rule where we are always having to bring a waiver, so I would rather not go with the superlicence.

"We have to control these cars, but I would rather do it a softer way than the superlicence.

"Those cars will only be used by drivers entered by a manufacturer and approved by us. This gives us control."

Manufacturers will have to supply the FIA with driver details, with the governing body then giving a final decision on whether or not they can be entered for WRC rounds.

Mahonen said the FIA would turn down any driver who was "putting his £1million on the table to drive the 2017 car".

"Today, you can put down the money and drive the car and we have no control over that," he added.

"We will look at the merits of each driver who applies.

"Do we want the so-called gentleman drivers coming with these cars? No, we don't.

"And nor do we want the 18-year-old drivers coming and doing their first world championship round in one of these either."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...medium=twitter

[dodge33cymru]

I trust Julien Maurin and Sam Moffat not to bin a WRC car much more than I would Kubica, but I take their point; a minimum amount of R5 experience would be fair.

[Andre Oliveira]

So, with that "aproval" maybe is time to bring back 3 cars team, best 2 to points without nomeation, rule back

[itix]

Drivers of 2017 World Rally Cars must be approved by FIA



The use of 2017's faster-than-ever World Rally Cars will be restricted to drivers the FIA feels are competent enough to compete in them.

There has been concern in the service park about the increased speed from the new cars, prompting calls from the current top-line drivers to restrict access.
[...]
"Today, you can put down the money and drive the car and we have no control over that," he added.

"We will look at the merits of each driver who applies.

"Do we want the so-called gentleman drivers coming with these cars? No, we don't.

"And nor do we want the 18-year-old drivers coming and doing their first world championship round in one of these either."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...medium=twitter

I saw that and I think it is bullshit. Msport literally lives on this kind of customer coming in and coughing up his or her 500 000£ to drive. Would that mean that Msport would have to register as a manufacturer to compete?

Rallying has always been about the fact that any old nut can come and compete in equal machinery as the manufacturers... this is beyond stupid

[tc10a]

According to http://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/nach...llen-wrc-2017/ a "Cup for the old generation cars" for privatiers etc. is in discussion for 2017. Quite sure we will still see some 2016 cars at the beginning of 2017 season.