BRC 2016 Pirelli Carlisle Rally

[AndyRAC]

Instant facepalm when I saw this on SS1. Bogey times have no business being in an event of this calibre. Again evidence that the individual event organisers need a bit of help from the series/promoters to iron out these issues.

I think the series has grown quicker than a lot of people were ready for and it needs sorting out next year if it's to progress.

IMS are running/promoting the BRC - then surely they should have a dedicated team who organise the events; the local organising club just add expertise for 'their' event. Time the BRC was 'centralised'; every event should be similar, rather than the disparate series of events we have now. Where is the YouTube coverage like on the CoI??

[Martin Liddle]

It's 120 km/h and we have only asphalt events (it used to be 130 km/h but it was lowered as a result of the crisis with several deadly accidents several years a go). If I remember right two or three stages were canceled over the 2015 season within both the national championship and the rallysprint series.

Ok 120 km/h is essentially the same as the 75mph now allowed in the UK for sealed surface events. I don't suppose the crews lower down the field who can't achieve the speeds of the leading crews are happy to lose stage mileage.

That's true but the issue is that the rule doesn't penalize the organizer for selecting unsuitable stage but the crews instead and in the same time it makes not much for the safety.

The organisers get penalised by the criticism from the affected crews and the adverse publicity.

Hiding the real time doesn't make the crews magically slow down. They keep driving as fast as they can and the only result of all this is that the risk they take is for nothing.

I agree with you.

[Martin Liddle]

IMS are running/promoting the BRC - then surely they should have a dedicated team who organise the events; the local organising club just add expertise for 'their' event.

So who foots the bill for a full time paid organising team?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Elfyn Evans: 'Whoever said 'it's about taking part' was obviously talking about this rally!'

[Simmi]

So three more stages tomorrow, and more potential for bogey times to be beaten according to Dmack, per conversations with the organisers. So basically a complete farce and a huge oversight by someone. Simply saying "those are the rules, we can't do anything about them" isn't good enough.

If you know the problem you should take steps to combat it.

[MrJan]

That's true but the issue is that the rule doesn't penalize the organizer for selecting unsuitable stage but the crews instead and in the same time it makes not much for the safety. Hiding the real time doesn't make the crews magically slow down. They keep driving as fast as they can and the only result of all this is that the risk they take is for nothing.

The volunteers that organise the event don't want this to happen, the crews don't want it to happen and the spectators don't want it to happen. Unfortunately mistakes get made and an organising team can only take a best guess at the likely speed of the stage. I suspect that in this case they're using bogey times based on previous runnings of the stage which haven't been an issue and simply didn't allow enough contingency for how quick the BRC boys would be this year.

I think people also need to remember the position we're in WRT the BRC. The last time it had genuinely quick drivers in quick cars must be getting on for a decade ago, before the stupid Group N regs and then the 2WD stuff all came in. Simply put, people aren't used to a top level British championship attracting properly quick drivers from overseas.

[Mirek]

Fair enough, still the sooner the rule is changed the better.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Statement from the organisers:

http://www.pirellicarlislerally.co.u...he-organisers/

[Simmi]

Statement from the organisers:

http://www.pirellicarlislerally.co.u...he-organisers/

As close as you can get to saying sorry without actually apologizing.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Doesn't sound too good for tomorrow's stages either...