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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    I think they should go back to the 2014 starting position rule. We would have had a closer fight between JM and Seb...
    The power stage reminded me what we were missing the whole rally, Ogier at its best. Doesn't someone thinks the new rules are sacrificing the whole spectacle?

    And of course congratulations to Latvala for this win. He was just in his own rally with no opponents.
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    Who're the 2nd & 3rd..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    The power stage reminded me what we were missing the whole rally, Ogier at its best. Doesn't someone thinks the new rules are sacrificing the whole spectacle?
    Ogier was giving his best the whole rally, its just that it was only good enough for second this time. What you saw on the power stage that was missing the rest of the rally was just him winning the stage, and Latvala being careful taking no risks.

    Based on last year the running order rules seem to advantage the championship leader about as often as they disadvantage him, the other drivers just don't whine about it when it isn't going their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    Ogier was giving his best the whole rally, its just that it was only good enough for second this time. What you saw on the power stage that was missing the rest of the rally was just him winning the stage, and Latvala being careful taking no risks.
    That's not what I meant. This is the whole problem, we see him doing his best and the result is "as good as for 2nd place", going all over the place due to the lack of traction. How good is that for the spectacle?
    And yes, Latvala shouldn't have pushed 100% at the PS, so he didn't. But then look though the difference with the rest, it is HUGE.
    Last edited by stefanvv; 6th March 2016 at 20:48.
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    For me (if you listened to the drivers after PS) Ostberg did a very good rally. He pushed hard the rally through. If you take a look at the status of cars, VW is for sure the fastest and most reliable of them all. But here comes why Ostberg did his homework - the Fiesta now is the slowest. You can see that the Hyundai now has developed more equal to VW (in raw speed) than to Fiesta. I think it explains why Sordo and also Paddon is doing very good times. Not that they are slow drivers, but just that they have that little extra which lacking Ostbergs car.
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    Sordo given 2 minute penalty. Sordo used 29 tyres where the limit is 28. News from service park here in Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    That's not what I meant. This is the whole problem, we see him doing his best and the result is "as good as for 2nd place", going all over the place due to the lack of traction. How good is that for the spectacle?
    And yes, Latvala shouldn't have pushed 100% at the PS, so he didn't. But then look though the difference with the rest, it is HUGE.
    How is that a problem? Its great for the spectacle seeing drivers pushing hard to try and overcome adversity. Do you say the same thing on tarmac rallies when the cars down the order are 'going all over the place' due to the lead cars dragging mud onto the road? Or when everyone after the first 5 cars was battling through ruts in Poland?

    What else would you do, send out a grader between each car to make sure the road conditions don't change too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1 View Post
    Sordo given 2 minute penalty. Sordo used 29 tyres where the limit is 28. News from service park here in Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    For me (if you listened to the drivers after PS) Ostberg did a very good rally. He pushed hard the rally through. If you take a look at the status of cars, VW is for sure the fastest and most reliable of them all. But here comes why Ostberg did his homework - the Fiesta now is the slowest. You can see that the Hyundai now has developed more equal to VW (in raw speed) than to Fiesta. I think it explains why Sordo and also Paddon is doing very good times. Not that they are slow drivers, but just that they have that little extra which lacking Ostbergs car.
    Again, how do You know?
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