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25th February 2016, 20:49 #761
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25th February 2016, 21:14 #762
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But as long as everyone knows the rules and regulations, they can choose the car they would like to use. If you love driving a 911, and they beat a R5, that is ok in my book! The sound and the downfall of a rear-engined car compared to a modern 4wd car, made for the pupose, makes for cool slides, and locked front wheels. The fans love it!
We are back to the discussion of private tuned cars vs manufacurer tuned cars.
And we need many engineering firms that can make money from rally. We are in this case talking a national championship, and drivers that do this for the fun of it. Let them!! National ASN need to grow a pair, and support their customers, and not the manufacturers.
R-GT would be a perfect class for this, but tuners need to be allowed to put in a bigger restrictor, that gives them maybe 100 hp more than today!
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25th February 2016, 21:29 #763
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25th February 2016, 22:11 #764
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Exactly. And that's why replacing 5 rally-addicted manufacturers with 1 totally indifferent to rallying is wrong move. Tell me what other choice do You have in Spain if You want to compete with Porsches? Only Porsche. There's no other way You could beat them on regular basis. As a result You have 5-8 Porsches and 0 R5 in the championship. So You didn't win 1 manufacturer more but lost 5. Do You believe that it's good that none of the rally-addicted manufacturers are interested in the championship? Why?
That's exactly what is missing in Spanish rules and why anything else except Porsches disappeared.
No, You can't chose when the rules are made that way that there is only one option if You want to win - Porsche.
Except they rarely drive sideways. Those cars use traction control. They rarely drift in slow corners and they are slow in fast corners. The only spectacular thing about them is sound and look.
I'm for privately tuned cars although preferably under FIA rules (which would need to rebuild current homologation system but that's something what manufacturers won't allow).
The only way how to make R-GT cars something widespread is to allow them to win overall - I mean under FIA rules. In that moment they are interesting for manufacturers and those have the power to create proper rules. Privateers won't change anything in global. Let's be realistic, rallying is a marketing tool for manufacturers, why shall they allow some privateers to meddle into their business with cars from manufacturer whose playground is somewhere else?Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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25th February 2016, 22:30 #765
Last edited by GravelBen; 25th February 2016 at 22:49.
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25th February 2016, 22:48 #766
Good points Mirek - if that has become the situation with the Spanish championship then the rules have definitely been out of balance.
I agree about RGT, I'd like to see FIA allow them to be competitive enough to at least have an outside chance of winning some events.
Your earlier comments about wanting the same cars to be eligible for more championships makes sense for Europe as well - though its not an issue here in NZ where you can't just drive to another country to compete!
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25th February 2016, 23:05 #767
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26th February 2016, 01:59 #768
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Spanish rules were in favour of GT's, now they are in favour of R5's...still no balance at all.
You’re totally right Sulland, but I fear FIA policy to endorse official manufacturers tuners is becoming ridiculously overwhelming.
Forget rally cars diversity and local tuners heritage, nowadays what matters in our rally countries is to have a decent number of R5’s entries in order to proudly announce to the rest of the civilized rally world: we have x, y or z R5’s in our championship!Rally addict since 1982
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26th February 2016, 09:57 #769
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26th February 2016, 14:22 #770
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This is WRC forum and most of you are talking national GT-class.
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I believe that in WRC R-GT they use same tyres than everyone else (also in gravel)"quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"
Mikkelsen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpe6ipk1NKU
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