Robert Kubica thread

[Jarek Z]

Ok, so where is the cut off ? Who sets the cut off?

The public. If the public sees more drivers like Prokop, they will not watch rallying anymore.

N.O.T put it in a (too) brutal way, but he is right. People want to see competition on a good level. If everybody drives like Prokop then the public will turn away from rallying and watch Champions League instead.

[N.O.T]

Ok, so where is the cut off ? Who sets the cut off?

the winner of the event most of the times, and just to be ahead of you with some answers the sky is blue and the sun rises from the east....

[thuGG]

the winner of the event most of the times, and just to be ahead of you with some answers the sky is blue and the sun rises from the east....

Would you be happy with only Ogier in WRC?

[N.O.T]

The public.

you cannot trust the public too much... most of them prefer to count WRCs, clapping like dicks with ears around hairpins and taking pictures of lakes.... you have to trust the selected few like myself.

[N.O.T]

Would you be happy with only Ogier in WRC?

again you missed the point... the standard is always the winner and the best player from then on you lower the standard nomatter how good the 2nd 3rd and so on is... That is why i said we should allow people to try first for 2-3 years, if they cannot challenge the best (winning stages, apply pressure) then you just throw them in the garbage bin.. for example Hirvonen was far better than Prokop the last few years but people were happy to see him go (at least those with standards)

[Jarek Z]

you cannot trust the public too much... most of them prefer to count WRCs, clapping like dicks with ears around hairpins and taking pictures of lakes....

Maybe you are right. But even this kind of public that you described will not come to the stages if they find the show boring. And the more gentleman drivers like Prokop, the worse show in the WRC.

[DoubleD]

I don't know why everyone is getting all bent out of shape over this quite honestly, in 2011 there were 7 true Factory cars on WRGB, this year we have 12...then we have the privateer guys with WRC cars as an addition..and then a pretty competitive group of WRC2 cars and drivers. So long as those guys are an addition to the show, and not the show then I can't see why anyone has any issue with....idiots clearly.
Quite often the guys who aren't the very best with WRC cars are a bit of entertainment as they aren't always on the prefect line.
It is a million times better than watching hordes of amateur guys driving round in Group N Evo's and Subarus a few years ago, because that was truly awful as a spectacle, no noise, no commitment, no sideways....just efficient boredom.

[AL14]

Lol, are you saying that there are former enthusiastic fan that went into the stages and then one day remained suddenly shocked by Prokop's pass and thought: "oh god, no more this, this is too much I will not see any WRC event anymore"? Really?

In my opinion Prokop could be a slow driver and not a flamboyant one, but it doesn't reduce the level of competition. He is, as said pluto, a benchmark for newcomers and a protagonist too sometimes, he knows what is rally about and a is a serious and professional driver, he is also better than the ones who prefer doing the same events for years in lower competitions, in roads they can drive blind, just to bring a trophy at home. I think this does not low the level at all.

[Mariusz]

again you missed the point... the standard is always the winner and the best player from then on you lower the standard nomatter how good the 2nd 3rd and so on is... That is why i said we should allow people to try first for 2-3 years, if they cannot challenge the best (winning stages, apply pressure) then you just throw them in the garbage bin.. for example Hirvonen was far better than Prokop the last few years but people were happy to see him go (at least those with standards)

Using this criteria all current privateers are staying then. Prokop and Kubica have been winning stages, Bertelli has been in WRC for one year so far.

[b3637853]

Using this criteria all current privateers are staying then. Prokop and Kubica have been winning stages, Bertelli has been in WRC for one year so far.

Prokop won 3 stages and 2 of them where probably mikey-mouse like where he had advantage of Pirelli tyres. Bertelli is just a rich boy having fun crashing million euro car on every rally. Maybe there should be license for driving WR car on decent level?