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    Who says it doesn't work as it should be? How should it work? He is getting paid a lot of money to drive to the best of his ability.

    So the mentality is to give up? What do you see Alonso and Button doing with a big pile of rubbish in F1. Still doing their best. The team demands the driver to do their best.

    And of course you can compare them, if you give a professional driver a lawnmower, they should still try and drive the wheels off it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grundo Farb View Post
    Who says it doesn't work as it should be? How should it work? He is getting paid a lot of money to drive to the best of his ability.

    So the mentality is to give up? What do you see Alonso and Button doing with a big pile of rubbish in F1. Still doing their best. The team demands the driver to do their best.

    And of course you can compare them, if you give a professional driver a lawnmower, they should still try and drive the wheels off it.

    These days the drivers have to use their brains. We're not in the 90's anymore, manufactures want results. Look at Meeke, he always drives the wheels off, do you think we will see him again next year?

    I hope the new car wil bring a positive vibe for the Hyundai team and all the Hyundai drivers!

    F1 doesn't belong in the WRC area !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doon View Post
    He does have a point though. Why roll the car into a ball every other rally just to prove he's still quick, when in reality he can only aim for 5th place if no one else makes mistakes. If that car is another duffer next year then Neuville must jump ship.
    It's not that he has to drive over the limit. Of course that would be a suicide. But as fast as he can yes. He should do it for himself and not only for the team that pay him.

    But let's be honest. Do you believe him when he says he's slower because of that?

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    Neuville is just making the best of the situation. Look at Germany, you really think he should have gone looking for Sordo? With an off as a result and hypothesizing a 4-5 position for Hyundai? How would he have been cirtisized if that would have happen? I love Meeke being able to almost follow the pace of VW with all his commitment, but what did it brought him so far, being kicked out of the team!?

    If Hyundai, Citroen wants to win, they should make a better car and allow there drivers to progress. I think Ford has the car, just not the drivers.

    If any, Mikkelsen or Ostberg need to be criticized. But both VW and Citroen look to be happy with both, and from my point of view they are showing less commitment than Neuville.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaCo View Post
    Neuville is just making the best of the situation. Look at Germany, you really think he should have gone looking for Sordo? With an off as a result and hypothesizing a 4-5 position for Hyundai? How would he have been cirtisized if that would have happen? I love Meeke being able to almost follow the pace of VW with all his commitment, but what did it brought him so far, being kicked out of the team!?
    Germany is fine, his team manager was talking about his performances from Mexico to Finland though.

    Quote Originally Posted by HaCo View Post
    If Hyundai, Citroen wants to win, they should make a better car and allow there drivers to progress. I think Ford has the car, just not the drivers.
    I think you are right here beyond doubts. But I think neither Ford has the car. It's just Malcom Wilson that puts into everybody the impression it is a winning car without actually winning (he is a genious, we must admit it).

    Quote Originally Posted by HaCo View Post
    If any, Mikkelsen or Ostberg need to be criticized. But both VW and Citroen look to be happy with both, and from my point of view they are showing less commitment than Neuville.
    I don't understand you here. First you say that Neuville making the best of the situation without pushing like crazy is fine and then if Ostberg does the same you say he has less commitment. I think in the contrary that Ostberg is doing a better championship than Neuville, simply because we all expected more from Thierry than Mads.
    Also I don't agree with your judgment on Mikkelsen, it is clear to me he is doing all he can to improve and have same pace of his teammates. He's not succeding but it is another story.

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    I say Ostberg should go back to M-Sport... oh and Meeke to VW... no wait M-Sport
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    http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...itroens-plans/
    He is effectively killing Citroen World Rally Team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by macebig View Post
    http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...itroens-plans/
    He is effectively killing Citroen World Rally Team...
    Disagree - he could end up saving it if he stays in WTCC running Citroens with his own team. NO ONE at Citroen is expecting him to come back to WRC full time. So this isn't really news.

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    Robert Kubica to skip Rally Australia for more WRC testing...

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120512
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    Disagree - he could end up saving it if he stays in WTCC running Citroens with his own team. NO ONE at Citroen is expecting him to come back to WRC full time. So this isn't really news.
    Alright,we agree that we disagree then.Citroen will stick with him no matter what.So,unless they miracously mount a title winning campaign in 2016 WRC expect them to focus on WTCC completely.
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