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    Quote Originally Posted by MJW View Post
    neither Elfyn or Ott get paid. Elfyn also works (long hours) at M-Sport whilst others concentrate on being drivers only.
    That's disgraceful. I find it hard to believe that M-Sport couldn't find the money to pay them something. As long as you aren't paying your drivers, you can't seriously expect to win.

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    They're allowed to have their own sponsors to pay their wage.

    Not uncommon in motorsport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    That's disgraceful. I find it hard to believe that M-Sport couldn't find the money to pay them something. As long as you aren't paying your drivers, you can't seriously expect to win.
    That is why, as said in other threads I still hope that Citroen goes away and Abu Dhabi goes back with M-Sport. I know it's pure speculation, maybe fantascentific, but it would be the best scenery for 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJW View Post
    neither Elfyn or Ott get paid. Elfyn also works (long hours) at M-Sport whilst others concentrate on being drivers only.
    nonsense, absolute nonsense.. Both drivers are 100% full-time proffessional and they will get paid although it's the minimum salary i think like most of the working-people around the world (with some bonus if they get a podium or so). All the expenses like hotel, transport etc. will paid by M-Sport (and the sponsers of the team), the team is in the WRC for almost 20 years now, they know how to run a team.

    But the question is will Tanak and Evans drive faster if they had a salary like €500.000 a year ? Don't think so. Both drivers have something to prove and only the best drivers will get paid in the end, it's like this in most of the sports. Only Hyundai with a lot of money to spend around can afford drivers to pay a good salary, that's why Neuville couldn't resist the offer in the end. Also a normal human thing.

    Please be positive that M-Sport (and so Ford) is still in the game, that they have build a very good car and hopefully they will be there also on 2017 with the new regulations. The only thing i blame Malcolm Wilson is his choice of topdrivers (not all) and support drivers (specially in the Stobbart time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacko View Post
    nonsense, absolute nonsense.. Both drivers are 100% full-time proffessional and they will get paid although it's the minimum salary i think like most of the working-people around the world (with some bonus if they get a podium or so). All the expenses like hotel, transport etc. will paid by M-Sport (and the sponsers of the team), the team is in the WRC for almost 20 years now, they know how to run a team.

    But the question is will Tanak and Evans drive faster if they had a salary like €500.000 a year ? Don't think so. Both drivers have something to prove and only the best drivers will get paid in the end, it's like this in most of the sports. Only Hyundai with a lot of money to spend around can afford drivers to pay a good salary, that's why Neuville couldn't resist the offer in the end. Also a normal human thing.

    Please be positive that M-Sport (and so Ford) is still in the game, that they have build a very good car and hopefully they will be there also on 2017 with the new regulations. The only thing i blame Malcolm Wilson is his choice of topdrivers (not all) and support drivers (specially in the Stobbart time).
    What I meant to say was they get a small salary, normal wage not superstar driver wages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    we need gigigalli in this thread now... after his inside info for Meeke to VW and Ogier to citroen for 2015 he is a legend now.
    LOL He maybe was right in some way. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120338
    "Capito defended Kris Meeke after recent criticism from his Citroen squad, and says he would be first choice for a fourth VW seat."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    LOL He maybe was right in some way. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120338
    "Capito defended Kris Meeke after recent criticism from his Citroen squad, and says he would be first choice for a fourth VW seat."
    Nice words from Capito. Not sure how much it helps Meeke mind you. Hopefully Kris still has a seat somewhere next year when VW stick Lappi in that fourth Polo

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    Capito is laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    LOL He maybe was right in some way. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120338
    "Capito defended Kris Meeke after recent criticism from his Citroen squad, and says he would be first choice for a fourth VW seat."
    Oops... I was 7 minutes late in the news thread hahahha. My bad!
    I really don't get Capito. Meeke crash something like twice the amount of Latvala... sure VW has deep pockets but 150 000 euro PLUS a 50% chance for a rebuild of a 500 000 euro car every event is probably too much even for VW.

    Citroen that has probably lost all of its good sponsorship deals after Loeb wen't AWOL certainly can't afford it. I am not impressed with Meeke's recent run of form! I completely get Matton
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    Aside from whether Matton is right or not, their strategy of publically putting pressure on their drivers is quite strange. They've done so for some years in a row now.

    Is that some kind of French 'thing?' Maybe Ostberg and Meeke can go on a strike as response then.
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