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    Someone in this forum said that it's not that other drivers are crashing to much but it's Ogier (and Loeb before him) that is hugely talented that crashes too less. He said that before Loeb world champions crashed everytime but they took titles anyway.

    Of course no one of the drivers mentioned earlier should retire from the sport or is someone who doesn't belong to WRC. The result would be Ogier driving alone with one or two young boys that would retire after 3 years if they don't beat him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    Someone in this forum said that it's not that other drivers are crashing to much but it's Ogier (and Loeb before him) that is hugely talented that crashes too less. He said that before Loeb world champions crashed everytime but they took titles anyway.
    It is not about the crashes, it is about to know what You want from particular event and to get it, it is not every time You can win it. Of course if You are more ambitious than Your abilities, with bigger competition You would crash more..... Ogier is really tough competitor though, probably even more than Loeb
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    It is not about the crashes, it is about to know what You want from particular event and to get it, it is not every time You can win it. Of course if You are more ambitious than Your abilities, with bigger competition You would crash more..... Ogier is really tough competitor though, probably even more than Loeb
    Yes but the discussion was about people like Ostberg, Neuville, JML and others that are useless dogs or have to retire...leaving de facto Ogier and Mikkelsen alone. lol

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    Ostberg and Latvala must go... Neuville not yet. As of Meeke we must wait a bit more to decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    Yes but the discussion was about people like Ostberg, Neuville, JML and others that are useless dogs
    Useless for what? Championship title? Yes perhaps 99% certainty. Anyway some just have to fill the numbers.... May be it doesn't apply to Neuville, but only if he changes the team with Toyota or other....
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluuford View Post
    So, who gets the final point?
    Tanak. BTW: Thanks for pointing out that rule, I had forgotten it and cursed those non-homologated cars in the classification.

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    Why wrc.com doesn't have Mikkelsen's time for SS11? He retired at SS12, did he not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonkka View Post
    Why wrc.com doesn't have Mikkelsen's time for SS11? He retired at SS12, did he not?
    Maybe the hit was so strong that the data disappeared.. he also disappeared from the last stage splittimes list. Same for Fucs. Mikkelsen time was 13:09.8 on SS11
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    Ostberg and JML replaced by whom? In my world they are competitiors on the highest level in WRC and can´t be replaced on other conditions they are "sick dogs". And that is stated by only one person I know.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    JML by mikelsen... Ostberg by anyone, they can hire a stray dog in his place.

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