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    Quote Originally Posted by bluuford View Post
    I think they both have one common point. Current safety rules are not thinking much about the situation when car fells into the water, lets say upside down. How the crew can get out from the car? When you have water pressure on both sides then you cannot open the doors anymore, it will be major effort. As far as I can remember, today rallycars cannot scroll down their widows as well? How they can get out from the car?
    they have small hammers with metal points to break the windows... it is almost standard safety equipment in every rally car.

    like this one (the blue one at the door next to auriol competition sticker).

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/51932399@N07/16909374386/

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    they have small hammers with metal points to break the windows... it is almost standard safety equipment in every rally car.

    like this one (the blue one at the door next to auriol competition sticker).

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/51932399@N07/16909374386/
    Do they use glass windows in the doors these days?

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    I don´t know why, but I like "serious N.O.T." more than the "Troll N.O.T." ;-) Please continue like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    they have small hammers with metal points to break the windows... it is almost standard safety equipment in every rally car.

    like this one (the blue one at the door next to auriol competition sticker).

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/51932399@N07/16909374386/
    The sledgehammer is useless against makrolon windows. It works only with hardened glass. Anyway it shall be easy to brake the makrolon windows. Once Prokop had to show it to our ASN technicians during pre-event scrutineering (if I remember right it was in 2011 when his car was used by Tarabus in our championship and it was the first time a car with the safety foam in the door and non-scrollable windows was here). I think there were some grooves in the window to create braking points.
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    Answering my own question here. From Appendix J Art 255A:
    - Polycarbonate side windows (including rear quarter panel windows) (minimum thickness 3.8 mm). It must be possible for these windows to be removed without the use of tools.

    I am not sure how possible it will be to remove them under water though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makinen_fan View Post
    Answering my own question here. From Appendix J Art 255A:
    - Polycarbonate side windows (including rear quarter panel windows) (minimum thickness 3.8 mm). It must be possible for these windows to be removed without the use of tools.

    I am not sure how possible it will be to remove them under water though.
    There are the small ventilation openings. You catch the glass through this opening and pull. The window brakes. This is how I think it works but I'm not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    they have small hammers with metal points to break the windows... it is almost standard safety equipment in every rally car.

    like this one (the blue one at the door next to auriol competition sticker).

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/51932399@N07/16909374386/
    Actually, FIA safety regs only require a seatbelt cutter - the small hammer is not mandatory. A small hammer is no use either because for group N and R where the side windows are glass, you have to apply a safety film. As for groups R4, R5 and WRC, the side windows are mostly polycarbonate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonlint View Post
    Actually, FIA safety regs only require a seatbelt cutter - the small hammer is not mandatory. A small hammer is no use either because for group N and R where the side windows are glass, you have to apply a safety film. As for groups R4, R5 and WRC, the side windows are mostly polycarbonate.
    the safety film prevents glass fragments... the window can still break and be removed in case of emergency.

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    That will hardly make them quicker unless they put somebody else in the car...

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