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    Too short wheelbase is no advantage. It might be a result of some suspension playing or it can theoretically happen if the car was quite heavily crashed before and repaired not 100%.
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    They were measuring wheelbase also on ERC event in Liepaja. I was surprised they were doing it also during regrouping where nobody from the crew were at the car... But in final, I know that car of Kristof Klausz (Renault Clio R3) was also not in conformity and they gave them time penalty (I think 60 seconds).

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    One curiosity when You mention Clio... I'm not sure about R3 but S1600 for sure had different wheelbase left and right. It's due to the rear axle design where torsion bars of left and right rear wheels are placed alongside. It's the same with Mégane. I guess it applies to Clio R3 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluuford View Post



    I have nothing against Ogier but this moaning being first on the road is a bit too much. It was very clear advantage on the first passes for him and little disadvantage on the second passes.
    The disadvantage you mention on the second pass was not only for Ogier but also for the other drivers close to him ,so no real disadvantage,right?this slush of ice particles after the first passes still stays on the road?i suppose not ,and if my suggestion is right then the car back on the list have advantage?true or false???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    One curiosity when You mention Clio... I'm not sure about R3 but S1600 for sure had different wheelbase left and right. It's due to the rear axle design where torsion bars of left and right rear wheels are placed alongside. It's the same with Mégane. I guess it applies to Clio R3 too.
    mm??does this quirk make more difficult to find the optimim set up?during right and left corners the driver feel exactly the same??
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    Quote Originally Posted by nafpaktos View Post
    The disadvantage you mention on the second pass was not only for Ogier but also for the other drivers close to him ,so no real disadvantage,right?this slush of ice particles after the first passes still stays on the road?i suppose not ,and if my suggestion is right then the car back on the list have advantage?true or false???
    Actually on the 2nd pass he sweeps the snow thrown from historic cars and makes the road for the drivers behind him. His times were really bad on 2nd pass if I remember right. Also on 2nd day first on the road was disadvantage, so he had something to moan about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Actually on the 2nd pass he sweeps the snow thrown from historic cars and makes the road for the drivers behind him. His times were really bad on 2nd pass if I remember right. Also on 2nd day first on the road was disadvantage, so he had something to moan about.
    It was not really an advantage on the first pass due to the lack of trajectory and brake-points markers...

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    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117751

    Please someone help this guy, he has a very big ego problem.

    It seems Loeb was better than him even from a style point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruesluporp View Post
    It was not really an advantage on the first pass due to the lack of trajectory and brake-points markers...
    This is very major advantage on such conditions. You can choose ideal line for yourself. A bit similar situation was today at Estonian winter rally. Before the rally I was not sure about it but I realized it very soon by looking from onboards etc. It is disadvantage when you are gentelman driver and you have no idea what is ideal line. Ogier just need a lot of recognition, that is his personality problem, there is nothing to do about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluuford View Post
    This is very major advantage on such conditions. You can choose ideal line for yourself. A bit similar situation was today at Estonian winter rally. Before the rally I was not sure about it but I realized it very soon by looking from onboards etc. It is disadvantage when you are gentelman driver and you have no idea what is ideal line. Ogier just need a lot of recognition, that is his personality problem, there is nothing to do about it.
    Always the same crap against Ogier!

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