M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

**jonkka** · 22nd November 2014, 22:55

Originally Posted by N.O.T

I would not consider citroen a factory team

Oh - how so?

**AndyRAC** · 22nd November 2014, 23:25

Originally Posted by RS

I agree, but that shouldn't be a surprise or anything to be ashamed of when they are fighting against three factory teams.

I guess Malcolm is treading water until he can get a factory deal again.

Malcolm has a factory deal - its just not in the WRC.....

**N.O.T** · 22nd November 2014, 23:29

Originally Posted by jonkka

Oh - how so?

No real support from the factory... they would not even be in without Abu Dhabi.

**rallyfun** · 22nd November 2014, 23:40

Originally Posted by N.O.T

I am basing it on the fact he has more offs than starts... he is useless in a WRC and a danger for his own health.

Kubica drives because he pays and he will continue to do so...

You're an idiot

**N.O.T** · 22nd November 2014, 23:55

Originally Posted by rallyfun

You're an idiot

No.

**GigiGalliNo1** · 23rd November 2014, 03:23

No he is not, BUT Kubica doesn't pay - Lotos does.

**janvanvurpa** · 23rd November 2014, 04:32

Originally Posted by N.O.T

No.

Actually, you are despite sometimes having an interesting comment or 2. I cannot believe that you speak to anybody in even 1/5 the obnoxiousness that you sling out to everybody on line..
If you did, you would have long ago been beaten to a lifeless pulp..
More than once.

Several times in fact.
Grow up.

**N.O.T** · 23rd November 2014, 04:54

Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Actually, you are despite sometimes having an interesting comment or 2. I cannot believe that you speak to anybody in even 1/5 the obnoxiousness that you sling out to everybody on line..
If you did, you would have long ago been beaten to a lifeless pulp..
More than once.

Several times in fact.
Grow up.

How can you beat someone to a lifeless pulp more than once ???

**markf8691** · 23rd November 2014, 16:22

Originally Posted by N.O.T

I would not consider citroen a factory team

Course Citroen are a factory team - yes they are getting a large part of their budget from Abu Dhabi tourism sponsorship but they have still paid the entry fee and are supplying 40% of the budget if memory serves me right. Citroen sport are also running the cars.

Out of interest does anybody have any idea how much each team budget is?

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 23rd November 2014, 22:21

As a matter of interest, how much do we think Evans and Tanak's sponsors pay to M-Sport for their drives ? And what do their sponsors get in return, just the pleasure of their man being in the WRC ?

Kubica's sponsor (Lotos) got their name as his livery, but nothing on Evans car for his father's business ?