[WRC] News & rumours (part III)

[Rallyper]

I haven't had a chance to drive the 1.0 Ecoboost yet but my colleague had it in a rental Focus last week and the first thing he told me was how strange sound the engine has

Only reference for me is my daughters Corsa Eco 1,0 (3-cyl) which sounded like an old Saab 3-cyl two stroke engine from beginning of the 60´s.

[janvanvurpa]

Only reference for me is my daughters Corsa Eco 1,0 (3-cyl) which sounded like an old Saab 3-cyl two stroke engine from beginning of the 60´s.

Sounds like the might Saab 3cyl 850? The one the beat the whole world--even on asphalt?
So did the Opel finally get rid of all those useless things like valves and cams and valve springs and camshafts and big gummi band to run all those undeeded junk?
Did they find a way to make that Old-pile fire EVERY time the pistons come to the top?
Instead of firing every now and then like 4-takt skrot does, if its in a good mood?

[Rallyper]

Sounds like the might Saab 3cyl 850? The one the beat the whole world--even on asphalt?
So did the Opel finally get rid of all those useless things like valves and cams and valve springs and camshafts and big gummi band to run all those undeeded junk?
Did they find a way to make that Old-pile fire EVERY time the pistons come to the top?
Instead of firing every now and then like 4-takt skrot does, if its in a good mood?

I f you mean I don´t know difference between twostroke and 4-T, I do. I just commented the sound and they actually sounds about the same (Corsa 1,0 4-T and Saab 2-T).
Btw back in the years I was starting my career as district rally driver I now and then did maintenance on the 2-T Saab Sport engine by taking it apart and mounting it together again. The engine didn´t work with any other sparkplugs but Champion UK16V btw. If any other there where a hole in piston right away...

[janvanvurpa]

I f you mean I don´t know difference between twostroke and 4-T, I do. I just commented the sound and they actually sounds about the same (Corsa 1,0 4-T and Saab 2-T).
Btw back in the years I was starting my career as district rally driver I now and then did maintenance on the 2-T Saab Sport engine by taking it apart and mounting it together again. The engine didn´t work with any other sparkplugs but Champion UK16V btw. If any other there where a hole in piston right away...

Just joking Pelle, you know I spend 20 years on nice 2 strokes before I start seriously working on miserable cars....I just love the simplicity of two stroke and the wonderful fact that they fire---and make power---every single time the piston goes up......a good 2-t moto-cross bike by late 70s would make 33hp for 1/4 liter which would be 264hp from 2 liter---with just a single carb....no valves, no camshafts, no springs, no ECU, and with just cleaning the air filter--do that for a whole season and run like a clock...
40 years ago.. I think we'd all love to have that power and that reliability in the engine, clutch, and especially the gearbox----thousands of shifts at full throttle, no problems..

Cars are so complicated, so delicate, so insanely costly....so bad only a handful of people can afford to really piska djävlarna ordentligt....... I mean what does just a gearbox and axles cost from Sadev for a little Ford Fiesta FWD car? ca 100,000 kr or more... Who has money for that?

[Rallyper]

Just joking Pelle, you know I spend 20 years on nice 2 strokes before I start seriously working on miserable cars....I just love the simplicity of two stroke and the wonderful fact that they fire---and make power---every single time the piston goes up......a good 2-t moto-cross bike by late 70s would make 33hp for 1/4 liter which would be 264hp from 2 liter---with just a single carb....no valves, no camshafts, no springs, no ECU, and with just cleaning the air filter--do that for a whole season and run like a clock...
40 years ago.. I think we'd all love to have that power and that reliability in the engine, clutch, and especially the gearbox----thousands of shifts at full throttle, no problems..

Cars are so complicated, so delicate, so insanely costly....so bad one a handful of people can afford to really piska djävlarna ordentligt....... I mean what does just a gearbox and axles cost from Sadev for a little Ford Fiesta FWD car? ca 100,000 kr or more... Who has money for that?

Why not use the 2T Bombardier engine used in Evinrude outboards in cars. How would that do? The Evinrude beats the 4T outboards everytime in power, effeciency etz!

[raybak]

3 cyl turbo engines sound awesome in the forest. I know because I rally one, the mighty Daihatsu Charade GTti with the CB80 engine. Over 200hp, 920kg pocket rocket.

[jacko]

I am not making myself a fool - I just re-post what I read on the internet in the news and rumours thread. I am not pretending that my info is real or privileged, it was a simple re-post of info that is on the internet.

I did not reply about the VW/Audi rumours, it could be possible like any other rumour. My angry had to do with your quote typical of their way... I think that's really not correct and a wrong opinion.

[AndyRAC]

If the rumours of Audi quitting DTM and LeMans to enter F1 ( with Alonso) in 2016 is true then I suspect we may not see VW after 2015. It's typical of their way of doing things, huge Dakar effort for a few years dominance then off to new adventures.

It wouldn't be the biggest surprise. But I can't see Audi in F1, doesn't fit their 'road relevance' image. They would only do it for exposure; one F1 race gives more exposure than a season of WEC. As for VW, I don't think they'll hang around WRC for too long. In fact, I think they could go to F1 as a possible engine supplier.

[MJW]

I did not reply about the VW/Audi rumours, it could be possible like any other rumour. My angry had to do with your quote typical of their way... I think that's really not correct and a wrong opinion.

So remind me how many years were VW in Dakar? And what kind of results fid they have?

[AndyRAC]

VW Motorsport has nothing to do with AUDI sports adventures

Apart from the fact that all programmes get signed off by the VW Motorsport group - which meets throughout the year to discuss progress.