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    Interesting pics of the Skoda Fabia S2000 powertrain and chassis.

    http://new.skoda-auto.com/en/motorsport/cars

    Looking at the second pic from left, the attachment points of the suspension arms to the upright/wheel hub are at very low point. Must have something to do with the suspension geometry. Is this a tarmac suspension? Looks like it would be very vulnerable on gravel.

    Fuel consumption 0,60 l / km SS (60 l / 100 SS km)
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    Really good find! Nice details in the photos.

    You are right about the suspension arms attachment with the upright, they seem to be unnecessarily low but they should have their purpose. Surprisingly, it seems it can accommodate even longer shock absorbers (at least at the rear).

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    Interesting pics of the Skoda Fabia S2000 powertrain and chassis.

    http://new.skoda-auto.com/en/motorsport/cars

    Looking at the second pic from left, the attachment points of the suspension arms to the upright/wheel hub are at very low point. Must have something to do with the suspension geometry. Is this a tarmac suspension? Looks like it would be very vulnerable on gravel.

    Fuel consumption 0,60 l / km SS (60 l / 100 SS km)
    Yeah that's clearly a thing to correct roll center when they go low for tarmac...
    Lovely detailed piccies, wish we could find equally nice picces of the other cars..
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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    Yeah that's clearly a thing to correct roll center when they go low for tarmac...
    Lovely detailed piccies, wish we could find equally nice picces of the other cars..
    Thanks vurpan, you have earned your Kossu.

    Sometimes Google give some answers. The third pic is the answer.

    http://www.meganracing.com/tech/faqs...ect=Suspension
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    Thanks vurpan, you have earned your Kossu.

    Sometimes Google give some answers. The third pic is the answer.

    http://www.meganracing.com/tech/faqs...ect=Suspension
    Kiitos Gamle Finne..you know I manufacture suspension mainly gravel but in America every boy under 30 has compulive disorder which makes the feel they have to lower their car 100-120mm so their car is like this, so I have made things like that to correct the position of lower arm when using short strut.




    Very hard to deal with silly boys who have mental disorders. Facts don't help, reasoning, drawings, nothing helps..

    Sometimes to help understand I use teacher's aids like this:
    First you point out the components or idea:


    Then you impress on them how important the idea is...



    with rally boys it usually takes a couple of times: (especially when they are "injur-near" and their name was originally "Håkansson" before it became "Hawkinson" and then I ''döpte om dom'' to Hoikansainalainen ---all rally drivers must have a Finnish name to channel to spirit)

    That's me doing the technical instruction....over here i"m one of the "Old FARTs" (Flemish-American Rally Team)
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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    Kiitos Gamle Finne..you know I manufacture suspension mainly gravel but in America every boy under 30 has compulive disorder which makes the feel they have to lower their car 100-120mm so their car is like this, so I have made things like that to correct the position of lower arm when using short strut.




    Very hard to deal with silly boys who have mental disorders. Facts don't help, reasoning, drawings, nothing helps..

    Sometimes to help understand I use teacher's aids like this:
    First you point out the components or idea:


    Then you impress on them how important the idea is...



    with rally boys it usually takes a couple of times: (especially when they are "injur-near" and their name was originally "Håkansson" before it became "Hawkinson" and then I ''döpte om dom'' to Hoikansainalainen ---all rally drivers must have a Finnish name to channel to spirit)

    That's me doing the technical instruction....over here i"m one of the "Old FARTs" (Flemish-American Rally Team)
    So that´s Your Ecellency "i egen hög person" in the picture, trying to learn out some behaviour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    So that´s Your Ecellency "i egen hög person" in the picture, trying to learn out some behaviour?
    Jo, erkänner.

    To keep this to rally car tech stuff here is us installing nice B23 turbo motor for our 2wd turbo class into that nice 240... Nobody pushes Volvo 240 harder in America (which is a bit odd for a Ford guy, eller hur?)
    (Sanningen är vi fick aldrig Escorten dvs rwd Escorten härborta, så 240 är Americas Escort, men större så det passar våra SS som är ofta som Autobahn)


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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    Kiitos Gamle Finne..you know I manufacture suspension mainly gravel but in America every boy under 30 has compulive disorder which makes the feel they have to lower their car 100-120mm so their car is like this, so I have made things like that to correct the position of lower arm when using short strut.




    Very hard to deal with silly boys who have mental disorders. Facts don't help, reasoning, drawings, nothing helps..

    Sometimes to help understand I use teacher's aids like this:
    First you point out the components or idea:


    Then you impress on them how important the idea is...



    with rally boys it usually takes a couple of times: (especially when they are "injur-near" and their name was originally "Håkansson" before it became "Hawkinson" and then I ''döpte om dom'' to Hoikansainalainen ---all rally drivers must have a Finnish name to channel to spirit)

    That's me doing the technical instruction....over here i"m one of the "Old FARTs" (Flemish-American Rally Team)
    Is that the motivational method or ”banging the information into the head ” method?
    “Don’t eat the yellow snow” Frank Zappa

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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    Kiitos Gamle Finne..you know I manufacture suspension mainly gravel but in America every boy under 30 has compulive disorder which makes the feel they have to lower their car 100-120mm so their car is like this, so I have made things like that to correct the position of lower arm when using short strut.

    Very hard to deal with silly boys who have mental disorders. Facts don't help, reasoning, drawings, nothing helps..

    Sometimes to help understand I use teacher's aids like this:
    First you point out the components or idea:


    Then you impress on them how important the idea is...



    with rally boys it usually takes a couple of times: (especially when they are "injur-near" and their name was originally "Håkansson" before it became "Hawkinson" and then I ''döpte om dom'' to Hoikansainalainen ---all rally drivers must have a Finnish name to channel to spirit)

    That's me doing the technical instruction....over here i"m one of the "Old FARTs" (Flemish-American Rally Team)
    i truly appreciate your approach to passing on knowledge...lol

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