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    Quote Originally Posted by Starter View Post
    Just as it's not your business to tell Americans what they can and can not do - like own guns.
    As stated elsewhere, this is an asinine argument given the long history of unwanted military intervention.

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    Since your country directly benefited from our "military intervention" it's a bit rich for you to get on a high horse about it, eh?
    Oh yes, how we've benefited from becoming embroiled in Afghanistan and Iraq thanks to your former President's religious zeal for military action. Neither conflict has in the slightest bred a new generation of Islamic extremists.

    (The above constitutes sarcasm, by the way.)

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    Another example of your hyperbola. Nowhere have I said the deaths of children are an acceptable price for the ownership of guns. That some children die from the misuse of guns is unfortunate. Just as many, many children dying from the misuse of automobiles is unfortunate. I'm not about to ban children from riding in cars either.
    Hyperbole. If you're going to throw such remarks around, at least learn how to spell them properly.

    The purpose of cars is not to kill. The purpose of guns is to kill. That you do not recognise this rather important difference suggests to me that you should be deemed unfit to wield a knife and fork, let alone a firearm.

    Forgive me if I sound high-handed, but if there is one group of people to whom I will always feel morally and intellectually superior it's Americans with a love of guns, and I take great delight in doing so.

    I'm sure you will now retort with a similar remark about 'liberal Europeans', but before you do I should say that it will come across as witless, so I wouldn't bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell View Post
    Your attitude is a bit rich coming from a person hailing from a nation whose international military interventions have, time and again, been carried out without reference to the people of the countries concerned. Did they 'get a say'? No. They simply had to put up with American bombs falling on their heads.
    This is a separate subject from guns. There is a growing sentiment and weariness here about being policeman to the world. There is a fair chance that you will soon have the fun of dealing with radical Islam, Putin's Russia,and a myriad of other world problems yourself. Good luck with that (I'm sure France and others will jump right in to help). We're much larger then you and therefor have greater resources and our citizens are tired of bearing the burden of the costs, both in lives and dollars of trying to keep a lid on things.

    Unfortunately, the latest fad of lopping people's heads off may force us to reengage for a while. I understand one of your folks is next in line for a reduction in height. How's that working for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starter View Post
    This is a separate subject from guns.
    One that you rendered entirely relevant to the discussion.

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    There is a growing sentiment and weariness here about being policeman to the world.
    But not about kids being shot dead in order to preserve an outmoded 'right' and a meaningless concept of 'liberty'. Some sense of priorities you've got there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell View Post
    Oh yes, how we've benefited from becoming embroiled in Afghanistan and Iraq thanks to your former President's religious zeal for military action. Neither conflict has in the slightest bred a new generation of Islamic extremists.

    (The above constitutes sarcasm, by the way.)
    No one made you join the fun and games, so don't try to lay it on us.



    Hyperbole. If you're going to throw such remarks around, at least learn how to spell them properly.
    Lose the snotty attitude. Like you've never posted a typo.

    The purpose of cars is not to kill. The purpose of guns is to kill. That you do not recognise this rather important difference suggests to me that you should be deemed unfit to wield a knife and fork, let alone a firearm.
    It's recognize, but then I'm sure that was a typo so I won't ding you on it. I understand the difference very well and I know the proper use of all the instruments you've named.

    Forgive me if I sound high-handed, but if there is one group of people to whom I will always feel morally and intellectually superior it's Americans with a love of guns, and I take great delight in doing so.
    Feel free to sound anyway you'd like. Though because you feel something doesn't make it a fact. Also glad to bring joy to your life.

    I'm sure you will now retort with a similar remark about 'liberal Europeans', but before you do I should say that it will come across as witless, so I wouldn't bother.
    Unlike some others on this board, you among them, I don't take delight in trying to insult others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell View Post
    But not about kids being shot dead in order to preserve an outmoded 'right' and a meaningless concept of 'liberty'. Some sense of priorities you've got there.
    If you're worried about harm to children you might want to worry more about Israel and Hamas; the ebola outbreak in west Africa; the Russian proxy, and now actual, invasion of Ukraine; the kidnapping of 300 plus girls; drought and starvation across sub Saharan Africa; etc.; etc.; etc. I realize your true intent is to bash the US at every opportunity and you really could care less about kids here being shot except as it fits your agenda so I don't expect you to take up any of those subjects. Enjoy the rest of the evening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starter View Post
    Lose the snotty attitude. Like you've never posted a typo.
    It's recognize, but then I'm sure that was a typo so I won't ding you on it. I understand the difference very well and I know the proper use of all the instruments you've named.
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    English English as far as the Oxford English Dictionary is concerned, prefers "ise" over "ize" variants.
    Noah Webster made a deliberate effort to vandalise English with his "A Grammatical Institute of the English Language" in 1783 and further tweaked this in his "Compendious Dictionary" of 1806.
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    No criminal charges in fatal gun range shooting by 9-year-old girl


    "Based on the video, the Sheriff's Office has determined no charges are pending," the Mohave County Sheriff's Office said in a statement, adding that the shooting was "being viewed as an industrial accident."
    Industial accident?
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    Quote Originally Posted by odykas View Post
    A lethal workplace trauma, in other words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starter View Post
    If you're worried about harm to children you might want to worry more about Israel and Hamas; the ebola outbreak in west Africa; the Russian proxy, and now actual, invasion of Ukraine; the kidnapping of 300 plus girls; drought and starvation across sub Saharan Africa; etc.; etc.; etc. I realize your true intent is to bash the US at every opportunity and you really could care less about kids here being shot except as it fits your agenda so I don't expect you to take up any of those subjects. Enjoy the rest of the evening.
    I do worry about those things. But this thread isn't about them. It's always the refuge of the person with no argument: 'You should be concerned about X instead'. Not surprised to see it in use here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starter View Post
    If you're worried about harm to children you might want to worry more about Israel and Hamas; the ebola outbreak in west Africa; the Russian proxy, and now actual, invasion of Ukraine; the kidnapping of 300 plus girls; drought and starvation across sub Saharan Africa; etc.; etc.; etc. I realize your true intent is to bash the US at every opportunity and you really could care less about kids here being shot except as it fits your agenda so I don't expect you to take up any of those subjects. Enjoy the rest of the evening.
    I don't know about you but I can't be everywhere.

    I do have an opinion about Israel and Hamas - http://rollo75.blogspot.com.au/2014/...ine-again.html
    I do worry about ebola in West Africa and support organisations like WEC monetarily - http://www.wecinternational.org/index.php/where
    And I am involved personally in a mission to establish libraries across South Sudan (we're only at the very beginning of the project) - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Saidi...97237680530367

    How many of those subjects would you like us to take up? They are beyond the scope of this thread and should be spun out into new ones.
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