Whats going to Happen at Mercedes

[The Black Knight]

Though I support Lewis I will believe this was an accident if it really was. If not, I won't.

I don't know what I find more staggering; the fact that Nico has again benefitted enormously from a mistake, or the fact that Nico can do these things in Monaco and Spa (which Schumacher was publicly crucified for even though it was never proven deliberate), yet somehow Lewis comes out of the episode as the bad guy!! That's messed up.

While I'm at it, there have been WDCs who's deservedness have been questioned. i.e. they may have not been the best driver in the year they took the title. But I have never known anyone have their title denied them in the way that people do not acknowledge Lewis' 2008 title, instead calling Massa the 2008 champ. That is hugely disrespectful.

This year, I think I am seeing it with my own eyes; there is an inordinate dislike towards Hamilton and I don't know what it's about.

If someone can explain to me why Nico straightened up the wheel and then move in towards Lewis I'd happily accept this as an accident as well. If they can't, and no one has so far, then I won't.

As for the dislike towards Hamilton, the fact that he is black probably has something to do with it. We all know there is a lot of racism in the world. I'm not pointing the finger towards anyone on the forum here as I've never seen a hint of racism here that I can remember. Also, Lewis races hard but I find him to be very fair. In previous years, he probably did step over the line on a couple of occasions, but this year I can't remember any incident where he did. F1 isn't about presents. It's up to the guy behind to get by, not for the guy in front to step aside and say "After you, Sir!"

You're right though, It's funny really the way people call Massa the 2008 champ and forget Lewis won Spa and had it unfairly taken off of him and at the end of the day he had more points than Massa without cheating.

[Doc Austin]

It's nice to see the forum becoming so active again.

The Black Knight] If someone can explain to me why Nico straightened up the wheel and then move in towards Lewis I'd happily accept this as an accident as well. If they can't, and no one has so far, then I won't.

Why would you point the car anywhere except where you want it to go?

[Mintexmemory]

It's nice to see the forum becoming so active again.




Why would you point the car anywhere except where you want it to go?

Exactly, it's either deliberate which is reprehensible or a mistake that is woeful incompetence. Either way young Nico is not fit to be out on his own!!

[Duncan]

If someone can explain to me why Nico straightened up the wheel and then move in towards Lewis I'd happily accept this as an accident as well. If they can't, and no one has so far, then I won't.

I really don't see anything conclusive in the video; cars like that just don't handle like road cars when on the limit (and the first turn at Les Combes certainly will qualify). Without the benefit of whatever feel for the road Nico had you can't tell whether he was trying to turn in or just correct for a washout at the front of the car.

All that said, the incident was 100% Nico's fault, even if it might be classified as a "racing incident". Just because it was an incredibly stupid move to make in the first place that created a completely unnecessary risk of an intra-team wipeout. A suicide dive like that might even be a commendably aggressive piece of driving in some situations, like late in the race for the last points-paying position, but against your teammate on the second lap when your cars are two seconds quicker than the field? Stupid and reckless, and any negative outcome is on Nico's head.

I don't take Nico's reported remarks about making a point to imply that he collided deliberately, just that he was making the point that he was prepared to play chicken with his teammate and not back down, even if that meant colliding. That's an awfully fine distinction, though.

Having thought about it, I actually think Hamilton going to the press with this is pretty smart. By fueling the controversy to the point where there was active discussion of getting the stewards involved, he's managed to neutralize any "point" that Nico might have been trying to make. Specifically, Nico now knows that he can't do that, and there's going to be a ton of scrutiny applied by the stewards if he gets into any kind of scrape from now on. From Hamilton's point of view, that's a decent piece of salvage from this mess.

[donKey jote]

My personal thoughts are that one Hamilton was the victim in this incident. Two, he should shut the crap up about what he supposedly heard that Rosberg admitted privately.

Eggs, actly!
Three, whinging to the press or crying to mommy is something you should only expect to get away with if you are more than squeaky clean yourself.
Four, sort it out on the track unless deep down you doubt you have the ability to
Five, shut up y'all and drive, dammit

[henners88]

If he can get inside Nico's head he should say more! We want inside stuff not PR speak, use the press to his advantage lol

[donKey jote]

I prefer to see fair racing and the races being decided on the track, without pschogames, hissy fits or external influence be it FIA or press. Each his own lol

[henners88]

I like all the ins and outs of F1 but mostly the battles on track. Lewis was right to be pissed off and I don't begrudge him having a little moan. If we can share our opinions in public why can't the drivers? The relationship between then is damaged beyond help so he might as well try and get the psychological edge somehow.

Fans love a vocal driver unless it's Lewis Hamilton generally, so i'll break the bandwagon.

[555-04Q2]

I like all the ins and outs of F1 but mostly the battles on track. Lewis was right to be pissed off and I don't begrudge him having a little moan. If we can share our opinions in public why can't the drivers? The relationship between then is damaged beyond help so he might as well try and get the psychological edge somehow.

Fans love a vocal driver unless it's Lewis Hamilton generally, so i'll break the bandwagon.

Sports stars and particularly F1 drivers are spoilt brats really. They need to man up and get on with it

[henners88]

What about the fans, do we shut up and get on with it too? Quiet is boring especially for a forum