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    Quote Originally Posted by henners88 View Post
    I disobey my boss a lot and usually argue my point until we reach an agreement. Drivers disobeying their teams is not new and will continue in future.
    Then I'm wondering how your boss runs his business. Democracy doesn't really work in a business, as he is the one who carries all the risk and resposibility, so he needs to call the shots. That's what people often misunderstand - The company is MINE and so is the risk. If I muck it up, my employees lose their job and their incomes. So I seriously have no use for employees, who think they know better than me an think they can take risky decisions in contradiction to my orders.
    It's not as crass at Merc of course and the teams existence doesn't hinge on Lewis obeying the team's orders. But it certainly will have an impact on the atmosphere. You could see it last year at RB. The relationship between VET and the team was visibly soured for quite some time and a strained relationship to the team is what Lewis needs the least.
    как могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster View Post
    Then I'm wondering how your boss runs his business. Democracy doesn't really work in a business, as he is the one who carries all the risk and resposibility, so he needs to call the shots. That's what people often misunderstand - The company is MINE and so is the risk. If I muck it up, my employees lose their job and their incomes. So I seriously have no use for employees, who think they know better than me an think they can take risky decisions in contradiction to my orders.
    Just the sort of attitude that both makes too many workplaces horrible environments, and leads to companies going down the toilet. Very often the employees know how to do things a hell of a lot better than their bosses — after all, it's been said that the people who become bosses rise to the top precisely because they are expendable in terms of actually doing the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell View Post
    Just the sort of attitude that both makes too many workplaces horrible environments, and leads to companies going down the toilet. Very often the employees know how to do things a hell of a lot better than their bosses — after all, it's been said that the people who become bosses rise to the top precisely because they are expendable in terms of actually doing the work.
    Sorry mate, but socialism doesn't work. I must know, I was born in East Germany. I own a company, if it goes bust I am to blame, so I call the shots. I do value the input of my employees, but if they think they can disregard me and just do their own thing without risk, because the risk is mine. They're gone. period.
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    как могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster View Post
    Sorry mate, but socialism doesn't work. I must know, I was born in East Germany. I own a company, if it goes bust I am to blame, so I call the shots. I do value the input of my employees, but if they think they can disregard me and just do their own thing without risk, because the risk is mine. They're gone. period.
    I don't wish to lecture you on the differences between communism and socialism, nor on why greater employee input is not in itself socialist, but the above response suggests it might be worthwhile. And please don't call me 'mate'.

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    Mercedes drivers told to obey team orders in future

    Quote Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster View Post
    Then I'm wondering how your boss runs his business. Democracy doesn't really work in a business, as he is the one who carries all the risk and resposibility, so he needs to call the shots. That's what people often misunderstand - The company is MINE and so is the risk. If I muck it up, my employees lose their job and their incomes. So I seriously have no use for employees, who think they know better than me an think they can take risky decisions in contradiction to my orders.
    It's not as crass at Merc of course and the teams existence doesn't hinge on Lewis obeying the team's orders. But it certainly will have an impact on the atmosphere. You could see it last year at RB. The relationship between VET and the team was visibly soured for quite some time and a strained relationship to the team is what Lewis needs the least.
    Well I'm pretty good at my job and my boss wings it most of the time. I'm an industrial designer and he's a mechanical engineer by trade so he's good at the workings if our projects but not the aesthetics. We often clash and swear at each other but ultimately we know that we each know better in our fields. My boss doesn't run our department, the employees do and he gets the credit and the flack in equal measure. It works. At the end of the day as an employee I am out for myself, nobody else. We work as a team for success, but this has a largely selfish motive too, to get more money.

    I'm not too worried about Hamilton's relationship long term. If he wins the WDC and then moves to another team, I won't be losing sleep over it.
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