WRC mainclass from 2027

**saco0o** · Today, 17:15

Originally Posted by Kenneth

Who is building new supercars? Are there actually any new supercars since like 2019? Not counting the Lancia Delta ofc.

Because if you look at the EuroRX starting list, most of the cars were made back in like 2016. The newest ones are the KMS Polos, which are based on Polo R5 and debuted in 2019 iirc.

kms built one this year because they have been seeling some of the older cars, munnich built 2, trepak is selling the megane and is building a complete new car for 27' (which i thought its weird, since theres new rules coming up). some polish team built 2 new fiestas around december (we may see them in portugal)

**saco0o** · Today, 17:22

Originally Posted by WRCStan

And a meteor could strike tomorrow. FIA are in charge of the FIA championships and the only alternative is no more FIA championships.

cant one sue them in the EU for monopoly?
theres acm (Auto Club de Monaco - who kinda runs the monte carlo rally and was the organization body for extreme-e until fia entered, made it hydrogen and killed the championship), theres ACO kinda behind LeMans and the sanctionon body for ELMS.

recently theres always some conversation among the 'fia autocross' participants on "we should get rid of fia". i thiiiink the czech organization (the biggest in AX) tried to propose a take over, but some of the french also thought they should be the ones running the thing (biggest championship in europe, like rx) and then nothing came out of that and everybody went for more expensive controlled tires and fuel into the FIA AX season. (this happened in between 2020-2021-2022)

**WRCStan** · Today, 17:31

Originally Posted by saco0o

cant one sue them in the EU for monopoly?

Not sure what you mean what for? It's their sport and competition. If you come to my house you follow my rules too.

You could make your own rules and setup for an alternative but good luck getting enough people to join you as they will be ostracised from the FIA system. The number one rule of competing in international motorsport is agreeing to the FIA (and asns nationally) being the only one true authority.

**deephouse** · Today, 18:06

Yes, so was WTCC and World RX. What they did to not kill those two sports? And what are they doing from 2017 onwards for WRC? If the declining start numbers started back then, why the hell would you introduce even more expensier championhsip? And then replace it with even more expensier in 2022. Just to kill it, then bring it back, and again removing some things and then bring on paper perfect solution with reducing costs and then again delaying it and lie about everything.

I read about TCR. It wasn't created by FIA. But when it become successful formula they immediately stepped in. As I know they are not technical rule makers but are there just for sporting reasons. I think that WRC should do the same path. Fire those who clearly doesn't know the shit and let those who are actually in the sport run it. I blame FIA and I'm sadly afraid they will kill the championship.

**WRCStan** · Today, 18:48

Originally Posted by deephouse

Yes, so was WTCC and World RX. What they did to not kill those two sports? And what are they doing from 2017 onwards for WRC? If the declining start numbers started back then, why the hell would you introduce even more expensier championhsip? And then replace it with even more expensier in 2022. Just to kill it, then bring it back, and again removing some things and then bring on paper perfect solution with reducing costs and then again delaying it and lie about everything.

I read about TCR. It wasn't created by FIA. But when it become successful formula they immediately stepped in. As I know they are not technical rule makers but are there just for sporting reasons. I think that WRC should do the same path. Fire those who clearly doesn't know the shit and let those who are actually in the sport run it. I blame FIA and I'm sadly afraid they will kill the championship.

FIA creates very little, it acts on proposals. TCR isn't a world championship and it had FIA/ASN support from day one, they didn't 'step in'. Manufs couldn't/didn't want to sustain WTCC and it couldn't survive without them. Why cry about it, nothing can go on forever but touring car racing survives. Do you tune in to every race?

If a rival/independent international rally series exists let's see it. There's TER and the Portuguese one I forget the name of, but if those promoters wanted to take over WRC, they've had a chance. Not exactly a fair chance but I don't think anything was lost. And if they come up with a better and sustainable car alternative... then let's see that too.

**WRCStan** · Today, 18:57

And WRX should never have been a World Championship under sporting, philosophical or commercial POV. Period. Far, far, far, too niche.

**giu canbera** · Today, 20:29

Theres this other point tho, someone mentioned about a year ago: Think about us here in this forum. Not even among us we have an agreement on what WRC should be or do, or what car they should run (especially when you bring REALITY to the table, since manufacturers dont seem that interested at the moment). What Rallies should be on the calendar, how the promotion should be, how the broadcast should be - what should they broadcast. We have different opinions and views, some vague concepts like "They gotta tell stories" - ????. We are all screwed.
I went from an optismitic about the next 2 years to a doomer in less than 24h. Im really impressed lol