Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[AnttiL]

We can argue until the cows come home about the rest but can anyone honestly disagree with at least the top four here? I’m pretty sure the top three is how I voted in the Dirt Fish poll

In my original list Sainz was fourth, and I think he deserves to be ahead of Mäkinen although the title numbers suggest otherwise. Remember RAC 1998, had things gone a bit differently, titles could be 3-3 between the two, and in that case Sainz would be clearly better in terms of other achievements.

[cali]

In my original list Sainz was fourth, and I think he deserves to be ahead of Mäkinen although the title numbers suggest otherwise. Remember RAC 1998, had things gone a bit differently, titles could be 3-3 between the two, and in that case Sainz would be clearly better in terms of other achievements.

Exactly! In my eyes it's 3-3 between Sainz & Mäkinen.
Careerwise Sainz did more.

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[cali]

I'm not sure it's much better than the Dirtfish one.....seems a bit of flawed data.

It's much better and adequate.

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[ictus]

Remember RAC 1998, had things gone a bit differently,

.... and Makinen would't slide on an oil spill we would still be champion

[cali]

.... and Makinen would't slide on an oil spill we would still be champion

Mäkinen did the mistake, Sainz didn't

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[doubled1978]

In my original list Sainz was fourth, and I think he deserves to be ahead of Mäkinen although the title numbers suggest otherwise. Remember RAC 1998, had things gone a bit differently, titles could be 3-3 between the two, and in that case Sainz would be clearly better in terms of other achievements.

I agree, the top 5 is not in dispute really. I suppose you could say that Kankkunen is an odd one because he never won on tarmac, so all his success came from loose surface rallies.

[AnttiL]

Mäkinen did the mistake, Sainz didn't

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I would say both suffered bad luck. It's a part of motorsport, as are technical problems.

[AnttiL]

I agree, the top 5 is not in dispute really. I suppose you could say that Kankkunen is an odd one because he never won on tarmac, so all his success came from loose surface rallies.

And Sainz never won on snow. And Mäkinen never on mixed surface.

[Managarium]

Is there gonna be official launch of the 2023 WRC cars and drivers like it was almost a year ago in Austria?

[jcevc]

Is there gonna be official launch of the 2023 WRC cars and drivers like it was almost a year ago in Austria?

No launch like last year in Salzburg, it will be official presentation of rally1 teams in Monte Carlo on wednesday 18.1. - but smaller scale.