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    Is it legally possible to overturn this result.. or are the FIA really the Judge, jury and jailor?

    Such a thing would be equally as controversial and damaging for the sport.

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    Verstappen follows destiny to become Formula One world champion
    Issued on: 12/12/2021 - 16:52

    Paris (AFP) – From the moment that Max Verstappen joined the Red Bull Junior Team in 2014, there was an inevitability that he would one day become Formula One world champion.

    That it came in the shape of a sensational last lap sprint in Abu Dhabi on Sunday which toppled seven-time champion Lewis Hamilton from his throne will make it even sweeter to the 24-year-old, the first Dutchman to wear the crown.

    "My goal when I was little was to be a Formula One driver," said Verstappen after the finish in Abu Dhabi.

    "You dream of podiums and victories. But when they tell you that you are world champion, it's incredible."

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...world-champion


    Overjoyed Max Verstappen reflects on ‘incredible’ championship win and reserves praise for Lewis Hamilton
    Verstappen clinched the 2021 F1 title in the final lap at Abu Dhabi, while Hamilton was left to rue a late safety car


    Verstappen celebrates his race victory and championship triumph

    Max Verstappen branded his last-lap World Championship victory at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix “unbelievable” after he snatched the title from Lewis Hamilton in dramatic fashion.

    Verstappen overtook Hamilton on the last lap following a controversial ruling while the race was yellow flagged late on, and stormed to take maximum points ahead of the Brit.

    “It’s unbelievable. Throughout the whole race I kept fighting then there was the opportunity in the last lap, it’s incredible,” said Verstappen.
    “I don’t know what to say. My team and Honda deserve it. Finally a bit of luck for me. I also want to say thank you to Checo (Sergio Perez), he’s been a brilliant team-mate.

    “My team know I love them I hope we can do this for 10, 15 years together. I don’t want to change ever. I want to stay with them for the rest of my life, if they will have me.

    “I’m so happy. Our goal was to win this championship when we came together and now we have done that.”

    Verstappen’s title triumph will go down as one of the most remarkable in F1 history, coming as it did in the final lap of the final race.

    https://inews.co.uk/sport/formula-on...28?ITO=newsnow


    Max Verstappen, 24, and his model girlfriend Kelly Piquet, 33, share emotional embrace as he triumphs against Lewis Hamilton at Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
    By Owen Tonks For Mailonline
    Published: 17:06, 12 December 2021 | Updated: 17:21, 12 December 2021

    Max Verstappen and his girlfriend Kelly Piquet shared an emotional embrace after he won his first F1 world championship at Yas Marina circuit in Abu Dhabi on Sunday.

    The racing driver, 24, snatched Lewis Hamilton's eighth victory after he overtook the Brit on the final lap of a thrilling and controversial Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

    Belgian-Dutch sportsman Max could be seen hugging his model and girlfriend Kelly, 33, after stepping out of his car at the end of the race.
    She looked overwhelmed as she made her way to her partner to congratulate him on his triumph.

    Max's win came after Lewis led the entire race and was in total control after overtaking the Red Bull driver at the first corner, but a controversial safety car gave the Dutchman the opportunity to snatch the title away.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-Prix-win.html


    Max says Mercedes protest ‘sums up this season’
    Date published: December 12 2021 - Jamie Woodhouse

    Max Verstappen says the protests Mercedes have lodged after the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix are typical of this season.

    Asked by Motorsport.com what he thought of the protest, Verstappen said: “Not much really to say about that. I think it also sums up a little bit this season.”

    Red Bull team principal Christian Horner admitted he was disappointed to see this course of action from Mercedes, but stated the team had put their “trust” in the FIA.

    “We are disappointed there has been a protest, but we trust in the FIA,” he said.

    https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-ve...cedes-protest/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    Is it legally possible to overturn this result.. or are the FIA really the Judge, jury and jailor?

    Such a thing would be equally as controversial and damaging for the sport.
    Yes, Verstappen has been kicked off the podium before. The FIA can restore the correct order of the classification if provided with sufficient proof that the regulations have been contravened. It doe not matter who contravened the regulations since it would include anyone that has unfairly benefited from the contravention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    Yes, Verstappen has been kicked off the podium before. The FIA can restore the correct order of the classification if provided with sufficient proof that the regulations have been contravened. It doe not matter who contravened the regulations since it would include anyone that has unfairly benefited from the contravention.

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    Yes, I get that... but what about externally in the high courts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggy
    I would not have wanted to be Masi in that moment , as I'm sure his intentions were just to finish the race with them racing

    Masi overheard after the race:



    Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry!!

    May the forza be with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    Yes, I get that... but what about externally in the high courts?
    I don't think that has to go that far. It goes the high courts, criminal investigations would also be conducted and it could be very disruptive and damaging for the FIA and the F1 management. It would be cheaper and a quicker resolution to fire the entire Race Control team.

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    Decision due imminently...


    I can see Merc quitting F1 if its not overturned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    Decision due imminently...


    I can see Merc quitting F1 if its not overturned.
    You wouldn't blame them. Overtake protest for max rejected - not surprised by that. The safety car issue is the big one.

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    Final decision in

    That Article 15.3 allows the Race Director to control the use of the safety car, which in our determination includes its deployment and withdrawal.

    That although Article 48.12 may not have been applied fully, in relation to the safety car returning
    to the pits at the end of the following lap, Article 48.13 overrides that and once the message “Safety Car in this lap” has been displayed, it is mandatory to withdraw the safety car at the end of that lap.

    That notwithstanding Mercedes’ request that the Stewards remediate the matter by amending the classification to reflect the positions at the end of the penultimate lap, this is a step that the Stewards believe is effectively shortening the race retrospectively, and hence not appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    Decision due imminently...


    I can see Merc quitting F1 if its not overturned.
    Nah. They will use it to make 2022 even spicier.

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