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    Hybrid repair costs rule it out for M-Sport...

    https://rallyjournal.com/a-multi-mil...ong-statement/

    And support from Hyundai surely means hybrid is out from 2025...

    https://rallyjournal.com/hyundai-bos...his-situation/
    Last edited by Fast Eddie WRC; 3rd November 2024 at 13:33.

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    Is it possible to make anything more complicated than this group is doing..?

    - Bye hybrid
    - No, teams want hybrid
    - Teams don't want hybrid
    - Okay, more hybrid
    and now.. let's make WRC even more crazy..
    It is likely that the internal combustion engine, powered by 100% sustainable fuel, will be the preferred option, but the ability to run full EV and hybrid is set to be offered.

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    it gets frustrating. i just hope they dont screw the R5s. its going to change, sure. smallcrossovers, e-fuel on tube frame chassis (probably?). but it gotta be cheap and it gotta be on pair with current R5s so the transition to these new rules' car can take a decade.
    that my only concern atm. Rally1 is probably screwed anyway so, whatever.

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    Believe me, even if there will be possibility to run ICE, Hybrid or EV, everyone will choose ICE. It's proven, cheap, reliable, loud and still the best option. And maybe after one year or two, after no interest they will abandon possibility of both ''green'' powertrains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Believe me, even if there will be possibility to run ICE, Hybrid or EV, everyone will choose ICE. It's proven, cheap, reliable, loud and still the best option. And maybe after one year or two, after no interest they will abandon possibility of both ''green'' powertrains.
    Definitely.

    And even more so if same cars Regs apply to WRX, which has already shown ICE Cars are superior.

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    We all have to take into consideration that the car-industry is in total disaster right now. Even though everybody hyped transition to EVs, neither EU, nor USA battery capacities and costs per power unit are even close to what China has done and is doing now. Very politely saying "China "owns" the traditional car industry...". I think even manufacturers them self have not understood what mess they made with rushed transit to EVs and massive costs on it. One is clear - future car market is not single powertrain driven, there will be a mix of ICEs, EVs, Hybrids, possibly smth else, like I hope somebody will be able to turn global stupidity in some kind of power source..... Each of them will have their share. Thus, what direction Motorsport should take? So, the 2027 rules mirrors current uncertainty and messed up transition of where does it all go.

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    As most people don't care about the background, but only read slogans and headlines..

    BREAKING NEWS!
    2027 WRC cars will be hybrid and green again!
    New cars will use ICE as primary component, then 12v electric battery for getting the car started and last part the continuance of fossil free fuels!

    ,,We see it as a perfect package put together to keep our sport going on and growing!''

    #goHybrid
    #10CarsSaveTheWorld

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndersX View Post
    I think even manufacturers them self have not understood what mess they made with rushed transit to EVs and massive costs on it.
    It's not fair to blame the manufacturers for what governments are forcing them to do.

    BTW, everybody here wants more manufacturers in WRC yet many unhappy to see doors being opened to them... it's bizarre.

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    If Hyundai drops out from 2027 as seems to be likely, we could be left with Toyota, M-Sport Ford plus hopefully a new Manufacturer. So then it might be the time to have Hydrogen vs Full EV, with ICE banned to see some real innovation in WRC.

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