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Originally Posted by AL14
There are no more Team A and Team B in 2017!
As many as three crews in each round, with the best two results being awarded points for championship...
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Originally Posted by AL14
There are no more Team A and Team B in 2017!
As many as three crews in each round, with the best two results being awarded points for championship...
You can't do it, even if you want? I didn't know this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruesluporp
I knew that you can have three cars and the best two will win championships but not that you can't have two teams if you have enough cars to do it.
Would be the same with DMACK-Team, so it should be possible theoretically.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
It is not about bluff, it is about professionalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
You are a manufacturer rally team representing a multibillion company, no matter how good a driver is you cannot diseregard protocol. The drivers must want to drive for you not the opposite.
M-sport is a private business and Wilson will only sign Ogier if the whole deal is profitable for him.
Toyota is run by a bunch of amateurs and their only concern is probably to just drain the company of its sources and then flop.
Citroen is doing the right thing.
Neuville is sponsored by Red Bull. Paddon is not I think? So that would be very strange already.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
I don't see Hyundai coming with 4 cars. I think they could make a 2nd team. But I don't think it is very likely.
They are actually expanding their current facilities, atleast there is some construction going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
That could be the case if we’re talking about an average driver, but we aren’t. Like Loeb, and a few others motorsport greatest, Ogier is a living legend and any team must do everything to get him. It’s a shame mass media don’t give a sh.. to rally, otherwise this Ogier situation would be in all TV’s and newspapers. Do you imagine Ronaldo training on the top 4 foot teams before signing for one of them?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Hiring Ogier is the winning ticket for a WRC team. He’s much more than the best driver available; he’s a magnet that inspires and motivates every one working around him. It worth to take a look on FX Demaison words about him (even if the piece is written on a notorious frenchy arrongant style…): http://www.francetvsport.fr/ogier-la...eau-roi-182985
Honestly, if Citroen doesn’t allow him to test they aren’t being pros, they are being losers!
wake up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Best silly season ever? It looks like! Another wild rumour on VW: besides going for the FIA inspection they’ll also build the 5 units they’ve planned to be ready before MC... http://www.diariomotor.com/competici...-ultimos-test/
Citroen aren't being losers by not begging Ogier like Wilson. Toyota and Msport have nothing to lose letting Seb test the car whereas Citroen and Hyundai do.
What I think will happen is after Seb tests the Ford, he'll give Citroen more or less a verbal agreement that they are his preference and he wants to join them. Then maybe we'll see him test before he officially signs the contract. Citroen know the car is good and know Meeke can challenge next year, so they won't let Ogier drive the car only for him to then join Msport or Toyota. Neither will Hyundai, and Nandan has already said as much. Citroen and Hyundai are acting like proper manufacturer teams who are confident in their car/drivers , whereas Msport and Toyota are desperate and willing to do anything to sign Seb (understandably).
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Yep, i agree, Hyundai also didn't get Neuville a taste of the new generation car until he signed a new contract. As for M-Sport and Toyota i think it's normal for them to have a driver like Ogier to test the car, for sure the feedback, how small it maybe will be after a (short) test, both teams will be pleased about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Hyundai has a strong driver line-up and i don't think there would anything changed, perfect for them would be Latvala in a fourth car in rally's like Sweden, Poland and Finland (and to be nominated and not Sordo).
If Citroën is smart they get Mikkelsen and switch between Breen and Lefebvre for the third car.
😉 Thought so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
but not building any new "houses", just doing more space in 1 of current ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
I personally don't see any problem with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Who is Ronaldo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Come on! You do not know who is Ronaldo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
He is Portugese codriver:
http://ewrc-results.com/coprofile.ph...onaldo-Marques
;)
Why on earth he is forbidden to train with 4 different teams?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
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About Ogier in Toyota: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127257
Volkswagen refugee Sebastien Ogier tested the Toyota Yaris WRC on Wednesday, Autosport can confirm.
The Frenchman joined the Toyota test in Spain, where he drove the car on wet asphalt and on gravel.
Team principal Tommi Makinen told Autosport: "Yes, it's true. Sebastien did come and test the car yesterday [Wednesday], but I can't tell you anything more than that at the moment.
"Of course, we are talking."
Ogier is reported to have been offered a contract worth €10m (£8.5m), with Latvala also reported to have a contract on the table with the Puuppola-based team.
Makinen dismissed such speculation saying: "Like I said, we are talking to the drivers, but we didn't make the offer yet.
"The problem we have is for the car availability.
"We will run with just the two cars until the spring time and Juho [Hanninen] will be driving on all of the rallies."
Having sampled the Toyota, Ogier will test a Ford Fiesta RS WRC in Cumbria on Friday.
Ogier's chances of driving a Citroen and Hyundai look to be dwindling, with both the French and Korean manufacturers struggling to find a way to bring him to their teams neither is keen to allow the four-time champion aboard their 2017 cars.
The situation is very simple: the only way for M-Sport or Toyota to get Ogier is to allow him to test the car before signing the contract. If they didn't do it, he wouldn't even talk to them and would already be at Citroen.
I know You don't want me to respond, but now I'm staring at an empty wall (it is yellow).Quote:
Originally Posted by smsgrafica
So Tommi is testing Ogier and talking to Latvala. He's also tested Suninen and is widely believed to have already signed Lappi. Yet he keeps insisting Hanninen is locked in for all 14 rounds.
How good is Hanninen's agent! Or have I missed something here? I get that he's done so much testing but still there are far better drivers at the door. I'd assumed his deal would have immediately been restructured?
Toyota is a bad deal for both ogier and the village team.
Ogier will not be champion again and that piece of junk will earn the reputation that was the car that failed to earn Ogier another title.
Its far better to hire finish useless dogs so they will have the excuse that the drivers are not god enough, or glorify the fact that they might win a stage when none is pushing.
Its a win win situation and then the flop will come far easier.
I agree with NOT
Ogier to M-Sport
Ok yes N.O.T we've heard it from you 10 times already. No need to keep repeating yourself ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
On another note, definitely agree with Simmi, I think maybe Makinen is regretting the full programme for Hanninen. But how was he to know the craziness that was to ensue in regards to the VW saga. In my opinion VW's withdrawal has saved Toyota from what could have been a very tough (disastrous?) season for them in 2017.
Now they have the possibility to sign two drivers capable of winning, and one that is starting to show his true worth in Mikkelsen.
are you going to pay for his salary ? because wilson will not.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
I'm sure Makinen was quoted as saying that it's very important Juho does all the rounds, so they can get feedback and compare the data to all the testing they've done. They are taking this as a development year whether we like it or not unfortunately.
It's a bit of a shame because if Toyota had a bit of leadership and organisation they could've come into the WRC in 2017 hitting the ground running, like VW did. Instead they've wasted time and resources it seems with the TMG program, that had been testing and developing a WRC car as far back as 2013/14.
I expect it will be one of the VW drivers (most likely Jari), Juho and then Lappi from Corsica onwards who are the drivers for this season, with Suninen maybe in a R5 car + testing the yaris for a year. Reckon he'll then take Juho's seat in 2018.
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Perhaps the Lappi deal is testing and the 3rd car on a few rallies? Leaving Hanninen in the lead car and someone else in the 2nd. If none of the VW drivers are signed, Lappi to the 2nd and Suninen as back up in the 3rd car?Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Then again, you can easily argue that Hänninen hasn't had the best possible agent (in the past atleast) as he must be the most accomplished driver (in 2010's) who's never given the chance to drive a full season in WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Sure it comes a bit late in his career, but I think it's fair he's given his long overdue chance.
I can't believe Makinen lose occasion to sign a driver between Mikkelsen (my first choise) and Latvala...
if yes, he take a big responsability on his shoulders. You have the possibility to sign a top driver that arrive from VK and continue to progress every year as Mikkelsen and you sign a test driver (also if with good skills as hanninen) and 2 young drivers that are both all to discover in Wrc car...crazyness if happen
JML, Mikkelsen and Hänninen would be the best lineup for Toyota
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@Luke Harvey: The boys tell me that Mr Ogier is giving the new Fiesta a proper good spanking! And the car looks and sounds amazing!
Bugger, and they are only up the road from me!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
C.Clark - Looks like Sweet Lamb is the place to be today! Hopefully some pics and video coming soon. Fingers crossed for all at MSport!
Think he meant `Walters`Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Yes, he just confirmed Ogier tested there today along with Tanak.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassist
Ogier testing Fiesta 2017 WRC...
Just now at Walters Arena... https://t.co/dgV4sZgTEm (but video could be Tanak !)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyHHGxQWIAAIXZe.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyHHGxSWgAAxHQ5.jpg
Colin Clark: @SebOgier has just left in MW's Range Rover. Understanding is test went well.
Tänak too? surprising, i knew he was sent home because mr.King was testing...i wonder who was faster :p
Reports that Ogier left with Malcolm in his Range Rover than Tänak time. Btw, Tänak, Camilli and Østberg tested yesterday