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French manufacturer Citroën has already positioned to eventually accommodate Ogier, who was fired by the brand in the end rafters 2011. "If the driver who has won the last four championships will be found on the market we should enter into discussions with him "and said Yves Matton, Citroën Racing director in the columns of L'Equipe on Wednesday morning, before the official announcement of the withdrawal of VW.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Rallye/Actuali...nsferts/745067
Not that simple. He also says (complete sentence in the newspaper version of L'Equipe): "However, some huge constraints will happen and could, in the end, lead to the impossibility to reach an agreement" (I Try to translate in the best way I am able to).Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I think he has yet talked with Citroen's top management and PSA will not accept to pay much more money to take Ogier (PSA has announced three weeks ago that they will cut 2000 jobs).
that is what was said with Hyundai. i will not under estimate any new Team. who have money as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
nobody said that about Hyundai.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyone
wake up.
What's stopping Toyota of Toyota going "Ok, we have the money and can get it outside of the WRC Teams budget to get Ogier or JML".
You can't say this isn't a possibility!
The thing is Ogier would never go for that, even if they bring the big bucks. I am sure he gets the same feeling as all fans about the Toyota project, which will 100% absolutely not be a winning formula so soon.
the fact that they do not care and have an assortment of nobodies running the project with posters of rival manufacturers inside the teams garage.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Even though Mikkelsen has been better, Mäkinen would still rather have Latvala? Ok then
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...df80912939.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
It all comes from the same pot.....Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Mikkelsen isn't Finnish enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
And his manager is not named Timo Jouhki...
And were VW a dead-cert Championship winner when Ogier went there ? It's easy with hindsight but at the time no-one knew...Quote:
Originally Posted by andyone
Latvala maybe be the better for car development plus his huge WRC experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
Mäkinen's English is horrible, maybe there would be communication problems with AndreasQuote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Anyone also think that Malcolm Wilson had been so coy and reluctant to confirm his drivers for 2017 as he had info that VW could leave ? It appeared so obvious for months that it would be Tanak and Camilli, but Wilson just would not confirm..
Sidenote:Wilson is team manager and the manufacturer of the Bentley Continental GT3(which of course is funded by VAG).They may have told him some words on their 2017 plans or he is smart enough to understand the climate around VAG Motorsport programs.
They would use swedish with Mikkelsen.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
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Weird that Makinen doesn't speak English well considering he worked with English teams for a decade(Ford-Boreham/Ralliart,Prodrive)...
Maybe DMACK is going to offer one planned car to make way for a 3rd driver in M-Sport? Still think Tänak and Camilli will be in the main team.
some finnish friends can translate this? http://www.iltalehti.fi/ralli/2016110222555604_ri.shtml
as far as i understand from there the situation is pretty bad regarding available seats.
I highly doubt he knew this was coming. If VW Motorsport employees didn't know I'm not sure how Malcolm would. I genuinely don't think this became a reality until the US settlement was sorted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
this is the guy who interviews wrc drivers at stage ends.
Still wondering why sport is in such a low level?
Sébastien Ogier @SebOgier ·
I feel so sorry for my fantastic team-We had 4 outstanding years!
Thanks for their passion&support!
Don't worry about me,we'll see us again
Colin Clark @voiceofrally ·
@SebOgier you have been a wonderful Champ in VW colours and now you will go on to do what Loeb never did, win the title in different colours
sick dogs at all levels at this sport.
^^ Loeb defense force is back on action ;) .
I'm not sure what you're even getting at there, but Colin Clarke is a superb part of this sport and his enthusiasm and genuineness are a key part of it. I'd argue, in the world of WRC Promoter coverage on TV, he's one of the best and most passionate spokespeople this niche sport has left.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Unlike many people in his position across sport, he's not afraid to pick sides and call out the governing body, broadcasters and other parties when he disagrees with them and, most of the time, I agree with him (despite our political views seeming to differ wildly!).
So why shouldn't he message Ogier that he hopes to see him back next year? Whether you do or don't, it's good to see him being involved at every level, from broadcaster to fan.
That he was downplaying Loeb's achievements without a need to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
It's basically a Timo Jouhki interview:Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
- he says that timing of the announcement was the worst possible (well, that we already knew) as basically all contracts (for WRC teams) have already been signed or negotiated.
- according to Jouhki, Jari-Matti is "extremely disappointed" (I guess we knew that as well)
...but then the interesting points:
- he does not not believe (and if we keep in mind that it's Timo Jouhki speaking, there might be something else than pure belief behind it...) that Ogier would go to anywhere else than a "proven winning team, namely Citroen or equal to that". Jouhki's guess is, that if Ogier, for whatever reason, is unable to go to that kind of a team, he'll sit out 2017.
- Jouhki says that before anything can be done regarding Jari-Matti's situation, the legal work must be sorted out (contract with VW is still valid)
- when asked whether Toyota is an option for Jari-Matti, Jouhki just says that "it's hard to say if it's realistic or not" (whatever that means...)
- Jouhki also says (and this I don't believe one bit) that he "doesn't know" whether Tommi has made agreements with any other drivers than Hänninen.
he is right but he should have written that Ogier was forced to change teams not doing it willingly, but we are talking about a scottish person in a pink scarf.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Loeb was the main reason Mcrae was forced to be the circus clown over at the USA when Loeb ridiculed him in the same car and made him look like a hand-less amateur, so you have to be compassionate for scottish people.
I don't agree with this. Sure, he does speak English with a Finnish accent, but he's very capable of expressing himself in English.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
I don't think Mr Clark really needs defending from that, but even if so there's no need to stoop to call anyone a "sick dog".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
No, his english are laughable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
I appreciate the translation of the article, thanks very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9268788
Mäkinen confirms that Toyota's "intrested in all three available drivers" and that they've "already started to discuss internally, what could be done about it". This is maybe the most intresting part: Tommi says that "only Juho Hänninen's been confirmed" and due to that Toyota's "able to react" to the situation. Tommi also says (I think regarding the two other drivers) that "basically things have been agreed on" (which I take for being negotiated and agreed on, but probably not yet signed) but Toyota will now "rethink" all that.
yes he is.Read what Mirek wrote. Unacceptable,and tottaly stupid what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Pitty that you didn't understand,and you thought that I don't want Ogier at wrc for 2017.
thanks for the translation..and in this latest Makinen piece, i also read out that everything should be decided in the next few days.
Latvala's situation isnt very good then at the moment.
Calm down, he is journalist (quite good actually), need to make some sensations from time to time.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
iam not surprised you find him a ''good journalist''Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I did not think that at all; I understood what you meant, I just think there's no need for name calling in that way, especially not with someone who does a lot for our sport, that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
No idea what that means but nevermind. It is not me who posts his tweets here on the forum, think about that....Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii