They are the modern voice of the sport. They were never going to use 'unknowns'.....as seen on MotorsTV rally coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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They are the modern voice of the sport. They were never going to use 'unknowns'.....as seen on MotorsTV rally coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Clark knows his stuff but has an awful Scots accent for comms and Desborough is just plain annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Julian Porter and Becs Williams are a good combo on the MotorsTV WRC highlights. I would have preferred them.
I suppose I'll just have to watch the fan videos with their lovely pure sound (and usually better locations).
Clark is a lot better to understand than Porter.
Never got the fascination with Becs. She's fine on rally radio but I find that her commentary on telly gets on my nerves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Rallying just won't be rallying for me unless it's presented by Steve Ridge with Tony Mason, Tiff Needell & Mark James. Such a shame that the latter doesn't seem to be about these days, I know he did the S4C coverage of RallyGB a few years back and I thought it was much better...although I may have been looking at it through nostalgia tinted glasses.
Mark James is involved with the TCR race series - but I agree. He'd be a great addition to any rally TV coverage.
Mark James, Tony Mason and Alan Douglas :)
I find Julian Porter intensely irritating to listen to.
TBH all rally commentators annoy me as I would prefer just watch and HEAR the cars. They could just put up a graphic with the stage times and any key info.
But thats never going to happen on TV so its a case of having the least worst. Alas they havent in this case... Desborough will just talk non-stop cliches and rubbish over everything. :(
Say things like that on another forum and you’ll get lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
I haven’t seen or heard much promotion of the event; have any of the car magazines (EVO/ car/Autocar) haD anything about the new, improved BRC yet??
The BTCC is good at promoting itself, and you normally see apreview in EVO.
I think it can be counterproductive to an extent, making the spectator spot boring will just mean people sack it off and go roaming in the woods.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
Not surprised by lack of info, I think we'll need to get used to details only being released a week before an event.
This is so true. I'm absolutely sick to death of self righteous, pompous knobheads on BR bleating on about "giving something back to the sport and marshalling".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
Here's a thought, I DON'T WANT TO MARSHAL.
For clubmen/ BTRDA events that's fine. But for the premier UK series, and an International series at that, surely it needs to be a bit earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Seeded entry list out https://www.rallies.info/webentry/20...e=s&combined=1
Nice to see the seeded version, I know most of the names had been announced but it's a great looking list, nice to see so many top cars and drivers on it.
I see MotorsTV has now taken itself off Sky (Ch 447) ...
Good job the BRC didnt do a TV deal with them !
Rumours are really flying about the story behind that. Seems that there is currently a back door way for Sky people to view (and Freeview is still fine for those with data connections) but many people seem to be saying it's the end. Real shame if true but I guess that's the peril of a niche channel.
Woodside with Fiesta R5 too
Yep, I've managed to get it back on Sky using this method:Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
You can still view the channel on your satellite box by going to the “add channel” menu and entering the following settings;
Freq 11.082
Polarity H,
Baud Rate 22000 or 22.0
FEC 5/6,
DVB-S,
QPSK
Press scan and then highlight and store MotorsTV UK. Note, you will only be able to access it from the “Other Channels” menu of your receiver.
Only problem is you cant record any programmes with this. I hear that it may come back on the Sky EPG next week...
Motors TV has returned to Sky channel 447, a week after it vanished. :)
http://www.a516digital.com/2016/03/m...ns-to-sky.html
Solid, entertaining coverage on Channel 4 this morning. Tough to cram an edit into less than 30mins but they did a good job. Looking forward to the longer show on BT now - as the only complaint is we didn't see enough of the R5 field.
Yep that was pretty good stuff really. Amazing that they managed to introduce the season, the idea of rallying and still have time to fit in a reasonable allocation to the juniors and a mention of some other classes. Hope the additional time for the BT coverage is used for footage and not features/interviews though.
Really disappointed with the Ch4 show in terms of the BRC1 class coverage.
Why do we get excited by the number and variety of R5 cars in the series when we only get to see less than half of them...
They had 26 minutes and it was the first rally of the year, so they had to introduce people to the championship. How much more can they cover?
At 7.30am I doubt anyone was watching that needed the Ch'ship (or drivers) introducing to them..
This tv coverage is for existing fans only .. it needs showing at a more popular timeslot to catch the casual viewer.
That's likely, but it's not a certainty and they can't present on that basis. Even putting that to one side though they still don't have a lot of time to show much more than a round up on the top 5 and a bit of coverage from the Juniors. I thought it was quite rounded coverage, good selection of onboards, nice camera locations in the stages and a limited number of interviews with drivers. It's always easy to say what more stuff they should add in, but the real question is what would you have omitted in order to make time for more BRC1 footage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
And there's no chance of that happening - not when they can put up repeats of 'Come Dine with Me' and get a much larger audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Just watched the BTSport '1 hour' version... but more filler and adverts so really not a lot better.
A few more R5's shown which was great but they could do better with the time available.
And the way that Jon Desborough talks over all the car noise and even the onboards is so annoying.
I don't get why the BRC have so far made nothing of their You Tube channel... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzM...Pb2VJTaicvdAVQ Why are there no onboards on there at least? Even the dying old dog that was the old BRC put highlights up on their YT channel.
They may well have given up the right to broadcast their own championship though in whatever deal they've done with BT and C4. Very short sighted if so.
Or hopefully - they will put content up after its shown on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
Does he using "Max & Elfyn, son of Ari & Gwyndaf" cliche..?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Because that's his era... he knows nothing about the modern drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnold Triyudho Wardono
He does the same on the WRC programmes, repeating the same few bits of info he knows on every rally. :(
I watched the first half of it on 4OD last night and the final straw was that 'character' Elfyn Evans running into shot and going "aghhhhhh" as he pretended to tackle Colin Clark and got into his car..... Pathetic.
It wasn't bad up until Jon Desbollock's first appearance - he said something completely unremarkable then added on "as if that wasn't enough........ they've got to tackle the first two stages..................... in the dark". I actually sat there at my computer saying "as if WHAT wasn't enough?"
I suppose that shithead is a good fit for BRC's current media strategy: over-hype. over-hype, then over-hype some more
You mention 'over hype' yet it's not having a huge effect. Apart from dedicated rally forums, most motorsport forums have had very little comment/ interest in the BRC. Even Autocar/ Evo, etc haven't mentioned it. The promoters surely have tried to get them interested?
As as its the first year of a 'new era', you can let them off. But, next year you'd hope the events are more media savvy.
Wow maybe lighten up just a touch Jack - you'll feel better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack4688`
I think for the BRC in year one the biggest group of people they needed to target were the competitors themselves. Without entrants they weren't going to have a championship. I guess it was a case of 'build it and they will come' when the series returned. That doesn't always work out but thankfully it has.
Some over-hyping is fair criticism but credit where it's due they've done a good job on social media to drum up interest and get that momentum moving. But let's not kid ourselves, they were pushing on an open door when it came to speaking to already converted rally fans - desperate for the BRC to return to former glory.
Like Andy said you've then got that wider promotion which I think they should really concentrate on in year two. Although it is concerning that, if publications don't see this rejuvenated series as a worthy story now, what's to say they will next year?
Rallies need more investment and better promotion long-term. A lot of things look nice on the surface but need strengthening behind the scenes. It's a good start most definitely but I think there's some big steps to take before the BRC will truly be a force again.
It is very disappointing if you are on the other side of the world and have no other way of seeing how it went. I have been re-watching a lot of the 90's footage from the BRC which was simple and not actually bad most of the time, so was hoping to find stuff on this year, but so far all I have found is the few local channels that have put up highlights.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
I have just found the Dmack channel, so will go have a look at that after work.
Luckily for us the NZRC youtube channel has all the broadcasts from each rally uploaded, though with quite a big delay. Is it still shown on regional/national TV like it was 10 or so years ago?
Like you say, they might have given up the full rights in order to get TV coverage. Why not write to them and ask though? It's worth asking the question as it may be that they simply haven't appreciated the demand for online...although they seem keen to promote other videos on their FB page.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
I think having a virus over the weekend made me more irritable :D Still, contrived joviality gets on my tits. Just needs a sensible, stable and knowledgeable commentator like Richard Nichols or Mark James.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
All good points, they've done well with what they've got and considering everyone (competitors mainly) isn't flush with cash these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I've got bored of using twitter and cancelled my subscription to Motorsport News because I can get all the news I read in there from this forum. When you choose not to immerse yourself in all the media you can appreciate the BRC for what it is. So maybe if I were the casual motorsports fan that media push they had in the months leading up to the start of the season would have caught my interest in the BRC.
If only the TV coverage was on at a more sociable hour, the casual viewer would have a chance at becoming a dedicated viewer. Maybe even that is too much to expect from year one?
All teams and independent media were asked to hold back their in-car and stage footage until after the UK TV broadcasts. This request was well observed and, only now, is this footage starting to appear.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Sure do, it's broadcast on TV3 generally within a couple of weeks of it occurring. But that is sadly about the most exposure it gets in NZ, I haven't seen much of it on the news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack4688`
I dont read these but they are the most popular magazines for 'petrolheads' ... if the BRC doesnt even appear here then the masses will never get to know about it. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC