usually ''personal reasons'' they announce when they dont want to be public the real reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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usually ''personal reasons'' they announce when they dont want to be public the real reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Correct......Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
He was fired. It's not that complicated.
Same with Johns. There are some unsavoury stories about him coming out of Alzenau...
And for legal reasons, that's probably where this one should be left.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Please. Share with us.
Dirtfish guys are still very friendly with him even though they said they know the real reason he left...Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Some things in life should remain private between the parties concerned. Both of these fall into that category.Quote:
Originally Posted by bandit12
Then there is no need to hint that there is something nasty behind that. Respect that privacy and move on.
It seems there's a hell of a book to be written about the team from Alzenau once it's eventually wound up...
Questioning Petters technical knowledge is just lack of memory from person who said it.
I think Petter proved he can have a lot of balls in the air at the same time. Running Hyundai departement would suit the Solberg couple well.
You what? A driver is not an engineer full stop. A technical director is unlikely to do any design work himself, but he needs an intricate understanding of what is going on to direct people in the technical department. Years of discussing setup with a race engineer won't prepare you for that. It seems the drriver x developed car x pipe dream is still allive in this forum. The design office developes the car, a (test-) driver tests it and gives feedback, he is not getting busy with the calculator or CAD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Agree 100%. But you say Petter doesn´t have the qualification? Then we disagree...Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
I was not saying tech director, but a tech boss in charge of further develop the Wrc2 car. The deep engineering staff will be hyundai wrt. Call him the same as jones, does not matter. He will make the Rally2 into a neutral car easy to adopt to different driving styles.
They have sold 8 cars in 8 months. Says it all.
Watching latest episode of "team solberg", from Acropolis last year.
On friday they say the damper canister breaks off under braking and also hits the steering arm.
Petter than says the same thing happened on previous two tests and he told them to add another attachment point on top so the canister doesn't vibrate as it is only attached at the bottom. (dunno if that needs a joker to homologate).
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In other news after watching a few episodes Oliver seems totally mentally unprepared for this. Basically acting like a 12 year old and needing his parents for everything (or they are used to helping him all the time).
Johnston seems to get fired for trying to steeer Olivers drama queen tendencies.
Well. You can see from his onboards. All that time he uses to show his emotions... He could really use it to consentrate to driving
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...ally1-upgrade/
Hyundai looking forward to first homologation jokers in April
Quite consistent with what we could expect after Monte Carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Hyundai will have to limit the losses during the next two rallyes (Sweden and Croatia) and then, they will try to benefit from good road positions + jokers in the 7-out-of 8 gravel-rally series between Portugal and New Zealand.
I think it will really be complicated for the manufacturer championship with a big gap + the Toyota’s roster which is really big.
Driver championship may be a target if they limit the loss in Sweden and Croatia (and if the jokers are really fixing the main issues). I would bet more on Neuville than Tanak to do so.
I think after Sardinia, we will have a clear of where they are and they can expect for this season. It may then drive their decision to stay or not in WRC.
I have a question about the jokers. Quote from the article: “We will have to once again prioritize – we have more ideas than jokers. We have to go for the ones with the best potential. But we don’t know yet which exactly.
Could they test these jokers wherever they want in their testing area (this 10 km radius location)? And based on this testing they choose what helps or not? Or is this somehow restricted that you can only test a car that is homologated (so basically only tuning some settings)?
Of course you can test with unhomologated parts, that's what testing is for. Actually the permanent testing area is where you will likely see new parts being tested, since rally PET's are mostly done with homologated parts to fine-tune the setup.
For Hyundai, they are now only catching up with something they should have already had while the other teams will be pushing forwards for completely new things. It's not like Toyota and M-Sport would not use those homologation jokers in April...
We will get a netter status on the Rally1 Hyundai after Croatia, but we need to wait until the gravel of Portugal before we have a more precise answer on how far behind the i20 is.
But the same goes for the two others. We have an idea after the two first special rallies of the season. But as always it is a moving target, and they are hard to hit!
I see Adamo turned up on the ERC+ All Live coverage of the Fafe Serras de Rally today. Did he give them a lot of money in the past too ?
How is this question related with Hyundai?
He had a role in starting up Team Hyundai Portugal. Visiting old friends as I understood it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Thanks. Maybe that's why he was there but not why ERC+ welcomed him and had him doing stage end interviews.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Funny this guy is still the darling of the media, even though he was allegedly sacked from Hyundai for some of his behaviour.
Julien Moncet wants to remain in charge for the rest of the season...
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...tay-in-charge/
It's looking increasingly likely Toyota will have this championship wrapped up before the season in ends in Japan/Monza (hopefully not Monza), it's like someone said here sometime ago, when Toyota have a bad rally it's a second/third place and another point scorer in the top 5, when Hyundai have a bad one it's 4th downwards, although maybe Sordo can get back that podium position tomorrow. Also having Solberg Jr. for the rallies that Sordo isn't competing doesn't seem like it will help his teammates, I mean, if Oliver would be competing here do you guys think he'd be fighting for the podium? I just don't think he's got enough experience at the moment to help Thierry & Ott to challenge for the manufacturer title.
Well he wasn't even fastest Hyundai Rally2 before his retirement :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Exactly my point, well, part of it anyhow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
In the last 3 years ( third year is the ongoing season so far) Toyota has got 16 wins and Hyundai 6 wins
Ott got 6 wins alone in 2019
And out of those Thierry won 3 times, Tänak twice and Sordo once right? In what? 22, now will be 23 rallies. I really hope they manage to turn it around, if not for this year then at least for 2023.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Correct. Tomorrow it will be another Toyota win, which is already 3rd this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Hyundai drivers won 3 rallies last year all together and none so far this season
I really hope they can get back on winning ways at least for Estonia/Finland/Ypres/Spain, I don't care who wins in that i20N Rally1, I just hope they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
One part of me wishes they would get 0 wins this year, they deserve nothing as the least reliable manufacturer of the lot yet again.
But I know this would probably make them quit, rather than push them to do better, so it's better that they do win something.
But Neuville and Tanak deserve much more.
Clearly worrying performance from them here.
Until Croatia, we knew it would be difficult but we could expect some improvements with the gravel series. Clearly, it might be really difficult for the rest of the season and we can be worried about their future.
I see a lot of people (not particularly here) talking about what Neuville and Tanak should do and some evoking Toyota.
Personnally, if the situation stays like this until the end of the season, Iwould be Toyota’s boss, I would never take the risk to hire Neuville and Tanak. I have the next big thing in my hand + Evans still under contract for next year so I wouldn’t risk the relation with Kalle. And if Toyota has learned from WEC, they should see that it is better to have controlled competition than being overdominant.
On the contrary, I would try, as soon as next year, to give a 7-round program (at least) to a young talented driver to develop the new Sordo or Hirvonen.
For sure, for M-Sport, the situation is not the same: but I’m not sure M-Sport has the money (salary + car development) to convince a big driver to come even if Hyundai stops. Maybe next year (as there are still competitive in the second year normally) but after that...
As you said, if I were Toyota I'd probably keep my lineup as it is and wouldn't ruin the (seemingly good) dynamic they have between their drivers with bringing in either Ott or Neuville. On the other side of the coin what do you do if you're Neuville & Ott and can barely get a win this season? Join M-Sport for a price cut but in return get a (seemingly) better car? Leave & retire while they still have their dignity left? and if Hyundai for now at least do decide to stay for a couple of seasons, and both Neuville & Tänak or at the very least Tänak retires, who do they replace him with? So many questions and that's even before we get to the most important one, how do they change the tide?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
Watched an short interview with Tänak on Estonian media and he seems quite down
Says he didn’t expect more result wise before the rally because there was only one test day and he didn’t get the feeling from there and the same continued during the rally . There are things on the car which are hard to get used to and against his instinct to drive fast.
The guy then says that you had the chance to help to develop this car and Ott says there wasn’t basically any development cause they got the car ready only just before monte and had only two tests and the team is in difficult situation with the whole structure thing at the moment.
They can’t do much before Sardegna either cause the gap is so short.
Is hyundai running operation on save-mode?
test important.
Little trivia statistics: with his podium in Portugal, Sordo ties Solberg and Neuville for 10th position for of ranking of drivers with most WRC podiums (52).
Next in line is Auriol (9th with 53).
8th is Alen (56); not possible for Sordo this year as he should have only 3 more rounds; hope Neuville catches it (if not, it would be a very bad year for him).
Loeb 1st (120), Sainz 2nd (97), Ogier 3rd (92)
Quite worrying indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
The only positive is that the car is fast when it has no reliability issue.
I don’t know if there are changes with the joker regulations compared with 2017 but Toyota transformed a not-really reliable car (2017) in the best car in class in 2 years (2019) so it might be possible. The question is about Hyundai will to make the investment needed and to wait to catch up.