[WRC] Rally Estonia 2022

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15th July 2022, 05:02
EstWRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

I've seen the interviews well

Kalle clipped a rock, Tänak felt down on power at the end of the stage

In other news Evans is matching Tänak

I wondered where Tänak lost 0.5 suddenly in the end

Great news again!
15th July 2022, 05:03
AnttiL

Evans now faster than Tänak at split 3
15th July 2022, 05:04
Rallyper

Mawnin´all friends.

Just home from boatvacation in the archipelago of Norrtälje. Interesting three days ahead...
15th July 2022, 05:06
AnttiL

Loubet and Greensmith exactly equal at split 2, both slow.

Big time for Evans, 4s faster than Tänak
15th July 2022, 05:10
EstWRC

What a time from Evans

Him, Tänak and kalle Looked best on our place

Neuville all over the place and Breen looked just slow
15th July 2022, 05:12
AnttiL

Lappi and Solberg also quite slow. Maybe the road already deteriorationg?
15th July 2022, 05:24
AnttiL

Paddon also off the pace
15th July 2022, 05:25
AnttiL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXryPpLV...pg&name=medium

Big gaps. Only Breen to Rovanperä is less than a second.
15th July 2022, 05:32
meh

Quite some differences in times immediately.

And we saw some RC2 cars as well, which is good.

... and the biggest question and worry in Estonia is: what is (or is there) the issue with Tänak's engine...
15th July 2022, 05:33
AnttiL

Huttunen losing a lot already on two first splits
15th July 2022, 05:35
Rally Hokkaido

I noticed quite a lot of ruts. Paddon was the only one who mentioned them.
15th July 2022, 05:40
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido

I noticed quite a lot of ruts. Paddon was the only one who mentioned them.

Yeah, could see them already on the last Rally1 cars
15th July 2022, 05:46
AnttiL

Kalle says it's cleaning a lot
15th July 2022, 05:51
AnttiL

Would love to get translated what Ott and Martin talked at the end of SS3
15th July 2022, 05:52
Päss1928

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

Would love to get translated what Ott and Martin talked at the end of SS3

Didn't hear the beginning, but in the end Martin said there was an interesting noise.
15th July 2022, 05:53
Rallyper

Lindholm also fast on SS2.
15th July 2022, 06:00
meh

Man of the morning is Evans
15th July 2022, 06:16
satukata

Rallyradio?
15th July 2022, 06:17
Rallyper

Very different approaches in the last corners of SS3. Kalle, Tanak and Solberg seemed to break too much, while Fourmaux, Loubet were very fast, straighten the corners efficient.
15th July 2022, 06:24
Lead

Did I hear correctly? Engine issue for Huttunen on stage 1?
15th July 2022, 06:56
meh

Based on all-live maps, Virves stopped?

edit: moving again.

Not nice addition for Estonians after Kaur's situation.
15th July 2022, 07:03
mearioEnrico

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRCStan

If piston includes conrod length, that can change power and torque through geometry IIRC.

Piston means piston.

Quote:

Originally Posted by logic

Software along with friction losses can amount to as much as 10 more hp.

If they go away from the traditional engine build philosophy you can free up many more HP, where as the usual brief is to have as much torque as possible for drivability. So if you go to add power there are many things within the parameters that you can change to achieve this.

Software is homologated as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

I just read that the engine development 'freeze' was actually a freeze of the regulations, not of development of an engine itself within those regulations.

Engine development is frozen apart from few parts like I wrote :) The only other way is for reliability reasons.
15th July 2022, 07:05
ouvreur

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Very different approaches in the last corners of SS3. Kalle, Tanak and Solberg seemed to break too much, while Fourmaux, Loubet were very fast, straighten the corners efficient.

So fast and efficient that they only finished 17.5 and 18.5 seconds off fastest :spin:
15th July 2022, 07:34
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by ouvreur

So fast and efficient that they only finished 17.5 and 18.5 seconds off fastest :spin:

I didn´t talk about whole stage, man. Just one corner. Read again, please.
15th July 2022, 07:35
EstWRC

Tänak gives a lot of time away on every stage with second half

Still the power problems?
15th July 2022, 07:38
meh

Toyotas will dominate here again.
15th July 2022, 07:38
ouvreur

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

I didn´t talk about whole stage, man. Just one corner. Read again, please.

And I'm not saying you did... I just find it quite amusing that your analysis of that corner contrasts so starkly with the actual stage result (other than Solberg)...
15th July 2022, 07:39
Rallyper

Breen off...?

Edit: Off and steering broken.
15th July 2022, 07:39
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by ouvreur

And I'm not saying you did... I just find it quite amusing that your analysis of that corner contrasts so starkly with the actual stage result (other than Solberg)...

Two completely different matters.
15th July 2022, 07:41
seb_sh

Breen off, that's dissappointing again

and looks like he's out for the day
15th July 2022, 07:44
ouvreur

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Two completely different matters.

I disagree - the way a driver drives their car should have some impact on their stage time, shouldn't it? They're not likely to have driven the last few corners differently to how they drove all the preceding ones.

Or, if that isn't the case... what was the purpose of your comment?

I was just trying to have a bit of fun with it...
15th July 2022, 07:48
EstWRC

Evan class of his own
15th July 2022, 07:51
Rallyper

It amuses me when people not can take in a quote and analyse it. Only make fun of it.

I´ve watched rallycars since more than 60 years. I´ve driven rallies myself during around 30 years.
Different approaches of corners is nothing strange, you know.
Maybe you should take a look on the replay and do your own analyse instead of making fun of people.
15th July 2022, 07:53
seb_sh

Everybody except Toyota have started taking themselves out already. Let's see what Tanak and Neuville can still do.
15th July 2022, 07:54
meh

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

Evan class of his own

Evans is good, but take in account start position as well. Probably we'll see the reality tomorrow when they have similar road position with Rovanperä
15th July 2022, 07:56
Rallyper

Oliver mentally down atm.
15th July 2022, 08:01
ouvreur

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

It amuses me when people not can take in a quote and analyse it. Only make fun of it.

I´ve watched rallycars since more than 60 years. I´ve driven rallies myself during around 30 years.
Different approaches of corners is nothing strange, you know.
Maybe you should take a look on the replay and do your own analyse instead of making fun of people.

Come on now. I'm not trying to fall out with you, no matter how touchy you are or how hard it seems you are trying to fall out with me.

I don't disagree with much of what you've said. I'm not laughing at what you have said or saying what you think you saw is wrong. If, as you say, Fourmaux and Loubet look faster, it's cute, because their stage times don't reflect that (at least relative to the fastest two or three drivers).

You are correct - there is nothing unusual about drivers taking different lines or moving their cars in different ways. But if you tell me that two guys looked fast and efficient, and those guys set times over 1 second per km slower than the scratch...
15th July 2022, 08:16
TWRC

Lappi also seems a bit lost over driving style issues.
15th July 2022, 08:18
Lead

Great pace from Lindholm so far. Lets see if he can keep it on the road.
15th July 2022, 08:19
Lead

Morning positives - Evans, Lindholm, Kaur
Negative - Lappi, Breen, Solberg

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