Is this some kind of Finnish humor, that i am too sober to understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
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Is this some kind of Finnish humor, that i am too sober to understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
You know how it goes, one half serius, two thirds tongue in cheek...
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https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2022/wrc...UrFhxu0hUbs4bs
Ogier to switch out Benjamin.
Wondering if it was their agreement, for Veillas to get a win in the highest class, and then give a chance to someone new? Or maybe train a more capable co driver for loubet to help keep the French WRC legacy going
One of the best silly seasons for decades
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Late 2016 remains untouchable, but this is turning out to be very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Amazed no one has suggested Tanak's been made a squillion $ offer to help build a team around him by the alleged "fourth" manufacturer or did I miss those posts? New challenge quote might be a hint?!!
Who could that manufacturerer be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
Not 100% sure if it was here, but somewhere i read that subaru will join, Tänak will take a year to develop and will rejoin in 2024 with Solbergs and Subaru. SO it has been suggestedQuote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
New rules come from 2025, I doubt that anybody would enter the series before that..(no point to build a car for 1 year)..
I had this question on my headQuote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
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Originally Posted by meh
Nobody has suggestions for the half seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
It would be awesome (subaru & tanak)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyest
unless the same rules continue with just small changesQuote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
5 rallies for Ogier 2023, shared car with Lappi.
https://worldrally.se/ingen-full-sasong-for-ogier/
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You realise what this means, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Lappi is getting a new GR road car from Toyota!
In 2016 Hyundai had a new car that was used only one season.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2022/wrc...ext-for-tanak/ - more news, without any news...
Dose the rule says there must be at least two full time drive for each team, Can Hyundai have only one full time Neuville ? with the other part time guys like sordo,Mikkelsen ,Suninen ,Lappi ,Paddon ,Meeke
No such rule. Only that min two cars in every rallyQuote:
Originally Posted by 1988senna
Hyundai basically had this system in 2019, only Neuville had a full season.
And Citroen 2017-2018, no one had a full season!
so they can really have the perfect part time line up if Evans join Hyundai alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Doubt Evans would take a part time drive...Quote:
Originally Posted by 1988senna
And i doubt bit more, that he will ever want to go to hyundaiQuote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1988senna
TAVARES (ALFA ROMEO CEO): "THE ALFA ROMEO BRAND HAS BEEN RELAUNCHED, IT WILL BE IN MOTORSPORT EVEN WITHOUT SAUBER".
"You have to look at things objectively: the partnership we had with Sauber was a quality agreement, negotiated very well by my predecessor. We exploited it very well during the period of recovery of the Alfa Romeo brand on the market. Today the brand is very profitable and in full recovery.
Conditions are changing and we absolutely do not want to put into F1 the enormity of the resources that will be invested by some of our competitors. So we are retiring cleanly and kindly. With this partnership with Sauber, we have used F1 more than they have used us.
From this point of view, everything that has happened is rational. The job is finished. We will return to another discipline that has not yet been decided. Jean-Philippe Imparato, the head of Alfa Romeo, will submit his options to me.
One thing is certain: the brand will be present in motorsport even after 2023, when our agreement with Sauber ends. Given the history of the brand, there is no doubt that this is the case'.
Source: L'Equipe
Fingers crossed for rally then, but do they get exposure enough in todays WRC?
Lots of that in F1, but also ridicilous amount if money to.
TCR or something is more "alfa-ish" than rally too.
I hope for a Lancia comeback though.
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Alfa has a rich history in rallying, there were a force in the 60s, less so in the 70s (but then they dabbled in french events with one of my favourite car, the monster Alfetta V8 !), then bakcin the 80s with the groupA Alfetta GTVs.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
I knoow WRC is not the moost "eefficient" marketing tools these days, but if you do it properly, it can do miracles to re-establish a brand tat nobody really cares of anymore (circa Audi, Peugeot, Subaru). After all, there isn't a simpler message than "drive te same car on the same roads as the champs do". Fingers crossed, but don't raise your hopes too much ...
https://www.rallit.fi/nyt-on-hieno-v...as-palmasissa/
RACC would like Spain's WRC round to alternate between Catalunya and Las Palmas (Canarias)
It would be great. Maybe a bit more expensive for spectators but awesome island to spend a time there. One problem could be with number of stages. For ERC event they needed to close middle of the island, so 3-days rally will require finding more roads and probably use also other parts. And let's wait whether we have anybody on the grid in 2025 :)
Electric?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
I associate Alfa more recently with touring cars, especially the 155 V6 DTM beast of the 1990s.....Quote:
Originally Posted by djip
From memory, we had Ferrari in F1, Alfa-Romeo in Touring cars (DTM/ITC/BTCC) and Lancia in WRC. Then it was decided the majority of the group's motorsport activities concentrated solely on F1 with Ferrari.
One hopes we see a return but I would imagine the WRC won't be top of their list of series to join......Looking at their cars, none really scream WRC; maybe a Giulia TCR, or a Stelvio/ Tonale Rally Raid/ Dakar car.
The "hype" is LeMans and Dakar right now. Gotta see where the "Hype" is going to be when Alfa leaves F1. Tho I imagine they will stay up until 2025, right? Since Audi is joining only in 2026.
Theres that new eGT coming up and FIA is kinda moving away from TCR to go e-TCR haha u'know? So...eh... Idk what to think about motorsport anymore haha just hoping they stop creating more and more championships, jeezzz. Its just making it super expensive for fans, since each one has its own stream service ($$)
Alfa in F1 ends in 2023.Quote:
Originally Posted by lmmjvss
Im going to doubt on that simply bcuz F1 is on an 'all time' high right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
Honda said they were leaving too and look at themm u'know? Its very beneficial to just stay in the championship.
Unless VW is putting money to make them leave. (Like, a contract with Sauber that doesnt allow Alfa to continue in 24 & 25)
Different thing.. Honda is actual rngine supplier.. Alfa-Romeo is basically just a name/brand on Sauber cars..
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/where...os-future-lie/ - more new without any news
Jeez, clearly Dirtfish or any rally journalists don't have a clue what's going on. I think that's 3 different articles from the same Sordo quotes just rehashed. And Latvala's quoted where he said something along the lines of "why would we change the drivers, but it's not upto me", has also had 3or4 different (but samey) articles trotted out
slow news so they're reheating the same quotes with different article titlesQuote:
Originally Posted by er88
For Hyundai, the situation is quite clear paradoxically:
- Sordo 6 to 8 rounds is a no-brainer: he is reliable and can score good points; but full season is not possible because of fast gravel-snow rallies + he needs good road position to achieve a result in slow gravel.
- Mikkelsen sounds also a no-brainer for part-time; he is the most reliable WRC2 driver at the moment and M-Sport drivers have shown nothing this year. But full-time for a return is not realistic to put him in conditions to achieve podiums (they clearly need to play on road positions so part-time.
- it would be non-sense to fire Solberg to hire a Loubet or a Fourmaux or a youngster which is not a no-brainer choice, considering what they said (even if I don’t agree personnally). So the last question is either they succeed to steal Lappi or Evans from Toyota or not. If not, the only reasonable choice is probably Suninen (and it can be only part-time)
So for me, it’s either:
- Neuville 1st car / Lappi or Evans 2nd car / shared 3rd car Mikkelsen-Sordo
- Neuville 1st car/ Mikkelsen-Sordo-Suninen sharing 2nd and 3rd cars (a bit like in 2019 with a 10-8-8 dispatch, and perhaps a 4th driver for a couple of specific rounds like Breen in 2019; why not trying Fourmaux for 1 or 2 tarmac rounds or Paddon for a couple of difficult rallies?)
Only guy who could realistically change this is Breen if freed for nothing by M-Sport as he knows Rally1 car. But considering his season, it cannot be for a full-time seat so it would be instead of Suninen.
Even if I think it will be too short to match Toyota (especially if no Lappi or no Evans in Hyundai) and they should have bet on Solberg’s improvements.