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I think accident happen on the first "lap". Hänninen had to stop because of Neuville and thats why his time was +40sec slower. Time was given back, check from stewards decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Unless journalist means Juho placed some traps before the run. :D
Hope we have clarification soon about this if it's true, that's just gutting :( otherwise it's very stupid..Quote:
Originally Posted by lnvs
normally i would always say ogier, but seeing he has not won a single stage so far, i would put my money on tanak.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
This means that it eventually becomes a thrilling final day.
consider this - did visual perception/spectacles distortion have anything to do with Neuville "bad luck"
that was not bad luck, it was plain and simple stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
My prediction for tomorrow 1 Tanak 2 Ogier 3 Latvala
Tyre tactics will be important tomorrow. Probably it will be best to keep them in the best possible shape for the power stage.
Latvala small clip
https://twitter.com/MiikkaKimari
yes, One can win few tens of a second or loose a rally in these mickeymouse stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Nothing but stupidity
very good video showing how Neuville broke the steering arm.
http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/ral...lle?id=9527647
why doesn't he just take that wheel off and drive on 3 wheels to the finish? its not like its a long stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
he would have lost a minute or 3/4, but that still would have placed him 6th.
Nothing to do with Hänninen or anyone else. Just 90% stupidity 10% luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Latvala doesn't seem determined to fight
https://twitter.com/JariMattiWRC
I would try to finish with reverse gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
nice photo
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4aHyUmXUAAvde4.jpg
the crazy look on his face at the start of the video says otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
maybe the steering broke and the wheels could not turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Did Henning have only 2wd on Ss15?
Remember, driving with 3 wheels isn't allowed.He needs 4 wheels on car at all times.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
yeap if he had broke bent at both sides the wheels couldn't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It isn't allowed on public roads, but still can do it on the stage, no? I still can't imagine how he can resolve this situation, as the differential won't work for the other wheels if 1 is missing. It used to work in the past with Colin McRae mostly, but perhaps this technology was different then?Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
nice clip with Latvala at ss 13 pushing hard
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK
it was NOT the car´s fault Thierry...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
at previous generations wrc cars they could switch the center diff to block for these circumstances,or when they tried to get into the road after an off.probably they can do it at 2017 cars too.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
the car should have kicked you instead.... dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Well, then Malcolm will switch off 2 cylinders.Quote:
Originally Posted by maciotacio
Norwegians are really good at this whole "having fun in the snow" thing.
Nandan: "It should not happen"
Michel Nandan, the Principal of Hyundai Motorsport, did not hide his frustration after seeing Thierry Neuville lose a win for the second time in a row.
Hyundai Motorsport is struggling at the end of the second stage of the Swedish Rally. While the Korean brand was hoping to win with Thierry Neuville who had a 43-second lead over Jari-Matti Latvala (Toyota), the Belgian fell into the Karlstad super special that closed the day.
When the wheel was torn, the vice-world champion had to dismount. A situation identical to that lived in Monte Carlo last month when he had given up while he dominated the event.
"It's easy to say that it's part of the rally, but it should not happen in a super special when you have a lead of 43 seconds," commented Monegasque. It is disappointing for the whole team and of course for Thierry and Nicolas (Gilsoul) after these performances. Until this special, they did everything well by controlling and increasing their lead. The Rally2 will allow them to quickly turn the page. "
"We must focus on the potential of our car despite the problems encountered at the beginning of the season. Our crews are resistant. We saw it this morning with Hayden (Paddon) and John (Kennard) who had their worries of power steering, "said Michel Nandan.
Hyundai is now placing on Dani Sordo who occupies the 4th place at a good distance from Sébastien Ogier (Ford). Hayden Paddon is seventh.
http://www.autohebdo.fr/wrc/actualit...er-183323.html
Now, could you please take your pils, wait for them to kick off, then read your post few times, very carefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Then answer, how did you figure out Citroen is better than Ford and Toyota if:
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Conclusions cannot be drawn after 2 very special events where conditions and experience are more of a factor than driving or car performance.
Why do I even bother reading your bu***t.
Lefebvre off at Hagfords
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BOJQcuUhR8&app=desktop
Hyundai World Rally Championship driver Thierry Neuville says his retirement from the lead of Rally Sweden down to bad luck rather than pushing too hard.
The Belgian was 46 seconds ahead when he damaged the steering on his i20 Coupe WRC during Saturday night's superspecial stage.
Sweden is the second event in succession Neuville has retired from the lead, after damaging rear suspension when he hit a bridge parapet in Monte Carlo last month.
"It was a slow corner and I turned at the wrong moment," Neuville said.
"The tyre hit something, a truck tyre [part of the inside barrier] and I lost the steering. At that point, the rally was finished.
"It would be frustrating if I did a mistake and destroyed the car, but I was doing the perfect job and Nicolas [Gilsoul, co-driver] as well.
"We can't blame ourselves, we were missing some luck, even if this is another mistake, you can see from the images that we were not pushing too hard.
"We had spent all Saturday with a deliberate strategy to take things steady and to stay in control of the rally.
"We didn't want a repeat of Monte, but that's exactly what we got.
"I am so disappointed for the team, for Nicolas, and myself but we have to put it quickly behind us."
Neuville will return for the final day under Rally2 regulations, with a focus on landing five powerstage points.
"We can't dwell on such things, however frustrating," he added.
"We know we have the pace to win rallies with the Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC.
"We have the confidence and I am sure the results will come."
Hyundai team principal Michel Nandan was unimpressed with the turn of events, with the team's remaining drivers Dani Sordo and Hayden Paddon fourth and seventh entering the final day.
"It's easy to say that this is rallying, however when you have a 43-second lead these things shouldn't happen in a super special stage," he said.
"It's disappointing for everyone in the team, and of course for Thierry and Nicolas after what had been another commanding performance.
"Until that final stage, they had done everything right - controlling the rally and actually extending their lead.
"The old saying is true: it's not over until it's over."
Neuville's accident paves the way for a three-way fight for victory on Sunday, with Toyota's Jari-Matti Latvala and M-Sport pair Ott Tanak and Sebastien Ogier split by 16.6s.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...weden-accident
you know one funny thing is. if you listened to latvala today. he had two spares while others had one. so i wouldn't under estimate him yet. for tomorrow. im more worried about one of the fords to have issues trying to push Latvala. i still think 1.latvala 2.Tannak 3. ogier.
Meeke off
https://youtu.be/AeA4qQ1J1-8
About the team orders thing, it's not as simple as you (the ones that believe it will happen) think it is. Tomorrow there are just 3 stages and the top 3 are quite close.
Of the top 3 Tanak has shown the best pace and considering the gap he has the best chance to win, so it would be dumb to tell him to slow down because it would mean neutering your team's best chance to win. So for the first stages I'm sure he will be free to fight. After that we'll see how it goes; maybe Tanak will go off or be slower, Ogier finds some crazy speed etc. But again I think it's silly to suggest Tanak will "suddenly have problems" when he is the best chance for M-Sport to win the rally.
Except if Latvala crashes or loses/wins a lot of time before the last stage it means that the team orders will have to be done after the last stage by checking in late or something like that. Otherwise it would make more sense to try to fight to the end. If the positions are Latvala-Tanak-Ogier or Tanak-Ogier-Latvala with a gap bigger than 10s between Tanak and Latvala in the 2nd case then Tanak can just check in 1 minute late, gets 10s penalty and Ogier gets the points.
About Ogier's contract and supposed clauses... well that's just speculation and I doubt he has such a clause. Unless someone shows me the contract or I see some blatant team orders I won't believe such a clause exists.
Oh and I hope Latvala wins so N.O.T gets even crazier :D He might even start eating dog food ;)
hahaha class!Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
best scenario is dog fight till the last power stage + Neuville who said will go for the 5 points.
this is the proper dog fight!
You all exaggerate with this team orders thing. A dominating team doesn't need such. If it does, it won't be dominating anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
For the win though I would say Tanak will take it, though Latvala so far had better pace than him.