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Roof air intake is smaller tooQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Yes, quit a bit actually ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
But You are of the understanding that The Rally Monte Carlo is decided by tire choices and starting orders alone, and could just as well be decided on a computer. I am not.
There where a lot of people on this forum that had written off both Loeb and Citroën, but rallying is different, and thankfully still very driver dependent - thats why I love the sport.
Because the difference in starting order Ogier and Loeb will have two different tasks during most of this rally, the difference decided by the changes in condition as the cars go by. But the difficulties will be at a maximum. Comparing the two of them will therefore be difficult, but we could say that both of them is off to good starts.
But the fact that Loeb could win 9 consecutive championships whit out more drivers picking up on his way of driving is for me mind boggling, and thats why I keep pestering on about Nose End First.
In other sports, if one athlete came in with a new technique and beat everybody else, people would start copying and improving, but not in rallying - and very seldom in motorsports.
Its only in Moto GP where I have witnessed top riders discussing how they change their riding styles after the best rider, and try to improve on that. Now its Marc Marquez in the front, and the legend Rossi is open about adjusting his riding style to "copy" Marquez. And You know what, its all about Nose End First in Moto GP too.
But motorsport is off course very seldom talent driven. Its driven by money. So its very seldom that talents get the backing to reach all the way to the top. Loeb did, Ogier did, even Walter Röhrl did, and there You have three drivers that could win the Monte Carlo, and also beat circuit racers on their home turf.
Motorsport is also very seldom trained in a professional manner. In other, cheaper sports, the elements are taken apart and practiced one by one, and often one practices completely different sports, movements etc, to improve certain parts, this is very rare in motorsport.
The concieved "truth" in motorsport is that You have to start gokarting at the age of 7 months, and drive karts all day every day until You move up to the formula or class You are going to compete in. Even in rallying this is believed to be the right way. But the best drivers we have had, have not done this at all, and still people believe this gokart/youth-truth.
For me, the part of Ogier and Loeb and Röhrl is important, because it shows that money is not the only factor, and it shows that motorsport - or driving technique - can be trained and exercised, and it need not cost a fortune. This should inspire.
But I will tell You that it is very difficult to not spread the message when You have seen the light. Because being aware of the aspects of driving technique, improves the spectating by a huge margin, and I want others to experience that as well - even You N.O.T. But Nose End First being knowledge based, maybe its to much of a struggle for You, and then its easier to shoot the messenger than actually bothering to read the message ;)
i am too little confused.Something is not rightQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
MICHELIN Motorsport @michelin_sport 2 ώρεςΠριν από 2 ώρες Προβολή μετάφρασης
#tyres information: 2/2
Meeke: 4 studded + 2 snow
Neuville: 4 studded + 1 snow
Sordo: 4 studded + 2 snow
Ogier: 5 studded
MICHELIN Motorsport @michelin_sport 2 ώρεςΠριν από 2 ώρες Προβολή μετάφρασης
#Tyres information: 1/2
Loeb/Bouffier: 5 studded
Latvala/Mikkelsen/Solberg: 4 studded + 2 snow
Ostberg/M-Sport: 4 studded + 2 SS4
Bouffier crash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k5HXqZZnXQ
A lesson of nose end first into the ravine.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
A first pic of Rally Monte Carlo : Ogier by night ;)
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So Chardonnet and Kubica restarted and running first, Seb O will not have a perfectly clean road.
Any news on stage conditions?
start list for today
http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/201...ON-2-TC2D2.pdf
MICHELIN Motorsport @michelin_sport 27s28 seconds ago View translation
#tyres information:
Citroën/Neuville: 5 studded
M-Sport/Sordo/VW : 4 studded + 2 snow
Solberg: 6 studded
#wrc #RallyeMonteCarlo
On SS1 icy conditions so everybody most at same. Maybe a bit more snow to end runners.Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
SS2 wet conditions and above zero temp, everybody cuts and road is more dirty after every car.
Tyre choise for Ogier and Loeb are same, 4 studds ( but no info what be in a boot)
Both Bouffier and Serderidis (crashed in same place) not restarting because they arrived at parc fermé too late. Their cars were pulled out only at 3 O'Clock in the night! So regulations do allow Rally2, but it seems like the organizer can still decide a little...
Looks like at SS2 was dry conditions! well, at least where it was filmed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhsa0lOY_B8 Delecour and Protasov was brilliant there. But not so on greek driver :)
Seems that road maintenance has improved a lot in france and they have managed to almost clean all the mountain roads as well. But there is still the fact that there are two sno-piles on both sides of roads, it is melting a bit during the day and it freezes overnight. Ok, They are putting some extra salt on the road as well and that decreases the temperature where ythe ice is forming. For the morning, it looks like the temperature is even a bit less that melting temperature with extra salt, so pure tarmac pon the lower parts, black ice on the climbs, decend and shade and snow on the top.
So, Ss3, First part is running in the forest (5km) and it is climbing from 840m to 1220meters, then there is open section for two km, followed by one km section in the forrest and in the northern slope of the mountain, should be very tricky. Another open section 1.5km long, followeed by western expposed mountain side with forrest. Final km-s are partly in forest and partly in open filed. Final corners are in northern exposed forrest again. Should be very variable stage
thoose two on top make Ogier life "better" :D when road will be wetQuote:
Originally Posted by trifonvl
And "repair" zone was shorted from 4h to 2h15m after Day1Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
So, bluuford, frontrunners have an advantage
Ss4 is running in lower elevation, starting from around 1100 m decending to around 900m, but the it i run (most of the stage) in a very narrow valley with limited sunlight exposure. Final section was a little climb again but this stage in general has less forrest around it.
SS5 is the highest stage of the day. It is starting from aroiund 1100m and climbs accross 1550m. So, Snow and ice should be there definitely. Moreover. There is plenty of forrest as well. I hope they have enough studs left for this stage. Otherwise, there might be huge timeloss. I belive this will be the key stage of today.
I guess so. The character of the road looks like it has a lot of potential for cutting and bringing all kind of stuff on the road (snow, gravel etc.). Maybe there might be slight advantage on the last stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Ogier on the stage :)
Yeah, running third on the stage..
So, McKenna picked up a time penalty?
is wrc radio ok?
Kubica already 11 sec faster than Chardo on opening split.
working wellQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Working fine over here, glad that we have Colin at the stage end, at least i can understand him....Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Ogier on a charge 25 sec faster as Chardonet on first split
Loeb gonna smash it again i think.
Almost 12 minutes to cover 15 km stage, quite slow pace isn't it?
Chardonet's car quite messy, so massive cutting?
yes its slowQuote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
Fog also after 2km Chardo said.
Not terribly slow, a bit under 80 kph. For example yesterday's first, admittedly in darkness, was the same.
cant listen rally radio damn
Ogier 20 sec faster as Robert
dimvii, radio works well today for me also..