His time on this stage (power stage)shows the opposite.i dont say he is the new seb i just say i would like him to take a chance since a lot of drivers in the past took chances they didint deserve.
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His time on this stage (power stage)shows the opposite.i dont say he is the new seb i just say i would like him to take a chance since a lot of drivers in the past took chances they didint deserve.
If he wants a chance he has to pay...
His time in one stage means nothing.
By the way i really cannot see the reason why the FIA doesn't award points at the power stage for every class individually.... it is just stupid.
No tourist could beat Abbring on this year most epic ERC victory duel, like Sousa did in Açores!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Sousa was always a fast guy and finally his speed has become consistent.
Força Bernardo! Força Hugo!
You forgot some little details like that Abbring did two stages without power steering (in that moment he was leading by 35 seconds)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
...and you're forgetting the time Sousa lost by being first on the road at day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
No need to get excuses, it was a clean and well deserved victory!
And a 10 second time penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Nice to see that tourists have followers... a lonely tourist is a sad spectacle.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/519323...57626858800491
We must also reckon that he fought-fights againts drivers with factory support and thats really important.
Also don't forget Sousa is driving a Ford Fiesta RRC, I'm a bit unsure if, and how much it is faster than R5. Sousa is around in WRC since 2008, and since stages are changing only very little over the years, he has had plenty of time to prove himself. In 2010 he was driving SWRC with a Fiesta S2000 with 2 years of WRC experience under his belt, I remember him being beaten by drivers like Pons, Kosciuszko, Ketomaa, Prokop, Sandell and more. Where are those drivers now? ;) For me Sousa's performance in WRC-2 is more a proof of the poor condition of the championship, than of his "amazing talent". And yes he did good with his win in Azores, but Vaclav Pech won Barum Rally this year and that also doesn't make him a WRC star...
Scroll till the end of page and look stats for ERC: http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.p...6&nat=95&t=ERC
and WRC2: http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.p...nat=95&t=WRC-2
Look the stage wins. Abbring despite having taken part only 5 rallies and stopping before the end of most of them has still mot of the stage wins (as long as the car was running OK)
Now look WRC2. Ott did the same in WRC2 (as long as the car was not breaking down (it broke down in Argentina, Italy and Finland) or he had proper tyres he won most of the stages).
These two are clearly visible from the RC2 field in 2014.
Well, it's only because Rallye de France changed his route. Usually it was a little in Vosges moutains, and then a lot in Alsace, in vineyards. But this year their was maybe only 1% of the rally in vineyards, all the rest was in Vosges. I think it's due to problem with wineries, and damages in the vineyards.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
The same problem exists in Germany. If Germany has to change his route, but staying in Trier, where will they got ? In Eifel, which is quite similar to Vosges ...
By the way I find the 2014 roads quite disappointing. A lot of stages weren't exciting, to wide roads without difficulties, even if some stages were really beautiful. If Rallye de France has to stay in calendar (I'm not in favour of it, but that's not me who choose), I'd like to seem him in another place in metropolitan France (maybe North, close to Belgium, or west like in Normandy where roads are beautiful).
I think that's not only link to Rallye de France, but it's global in French rallying. All the races are spectators-unfriendly here now ...Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Not only in France...Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
Sousa isn't a tourist and neither he’s a WRC star, but he’s trying harder to become one!Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
I’m a Sousa fan as much as I’m a Abbring fan or a Maurin fan, etc; above all I’m a Rally fan and try to be fair with all those guys, not judging their ups and downs to lightly or severely.
Take the Meeke example, a lot of us would easily forget his name after his inconsistent JWRC attempts, but then he got the IRC chance and proved to have achieved enough maturity to full fit all his potential.
From his earlier continental Portuguese rally shows (Sousa is from the Madeira island) in a Evo, Sousa proved to be hugely fast but not totally committed to the sport. Then he made some erratic career movements and easily was seen as another rich daddy’s boy wasted talent.
Somehow he surpassed this unjust reputation (probably by getting a stable co driver like Hugo and an enthusiastic team like AT rally) and become mentally stronger in order to materialize all his talent.
Therefore his recent results shouldn't be wrongly judge as a championship lack of quality sign because they’re mostly a sign of a driver’s progress towards his maximum potential.
Best luck to him!
vino_93 Have you competed in both the German and current French round of the WRC ??Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
France has barely changed since it moved in 2010,, this year the vineyard Kelvar stages was not used, like the past 4 years
Try driving the roads used this year,, certainly not disappointing from a driver's prospective
No that's only a spectator point of view. Maybe the feeling by driving was different ;) I most admit, as a spectator (and TV spectator particularly), I found the 2010 / 2011 edition better, with a mix of vineyards and Vosges. This year only Vosges, I found some stages not really interesting on very large roads (at least for Rally). But as I said, only a spectator point of view. Driving is probably other thing.
Turn up your speakers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzJguNWAVeM
Still sound a little bit lame compared to the unrestricted one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Np4jlbKck
now i absolutely like the sound of that oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Nothing beats the sound of Dobberkau's 997, except for maybe the Audi Quattros during the Group B era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Proper sound.
This ain't bad either... And probably the most ideal guy to drive it!Quote:
Originally Posted by lewalcindor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAJ1ca1Ymng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsJLFKNATU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0kvZRiERw
Also nice! But I just prefer the unmitigated fury coming from the tailpipe of Dobberkau's 911. What a sound!Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
I think Zeltner's car sounds better than Dobberkau's car.
Zeltners old porsche 996 sounds better. The new 997 sounds not so good
Yes, 996 has nicer sound. I agree.
Zeltner has won the ADAC German Rally Championship...the first time since 1977 that Porsche have won it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 306 Cosworth
I just checked out some videos of Zeltner. That 996 is a total screamer! The 997 also sounds nice, though not quite as nice as Dobberkau's.Quote:
Originally Posted by jolle1982
That said, Zeltner does seem to have better control of the 911 than Dobberkau, who's no slouch either.
direct comparison (with ghost car) on a corner: 997 gt3 vs fiesta r5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_agbnEAB_cQ
and a ghost cow :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
homage to zeltner and his 997
Deutscher Rallyemeister 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G_EQD_RP2c
Was this posted already?
http://www.rallyedefrance.com/downlo...s%20rallye.pdf
All JWRC drivers were excluded from Rallye d'France as non-conform cams were found. Citroën also fined by 10 thousand Euro.
Mon Diu, Citroen cheats even in one-make competitions :D
Excluded and lost WRC-3 points but not JWRC points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
You must love such decisions for Your statistics, don't You? :)
No, I do not. I like regular things that go by the book, exceptions - even though they add spice - are more of a nuisance.
That was sarcasm, sorry if not obvious ;)
I wasn't quite sure... :D
I read that on wrc.com a few days ago, but didn't get clear: their WRC3 points lost were only on this round or on all previous rounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Only from Alsace - check championship standings
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc-3/results/...57-259---.html