Detailed press release of the Fabia upgrades:
https://www.ewrc.cz/clanek/35630-sko...ket-vylepseni/
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Detailed press release of the Fabia upgrades:
https://www.ewrc.cz/clanek/35630-sko...ket-vylepseni/
(right click to translate)
No need to use translator when you can read original text in english - https://cdn.skoda-storyboard.com/202...lly2evo-EN.pdf
Mikelssen confirmed Skoda will develop a new Rally2 car for 2022 and he will be one of the test drivers.
Not will, I think that the work has been underway for quite a time already ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
But for sure we won't see the car until the stock one is presented...
The new Fabia or Scala..??Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
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Yes, but stock and sell could be done by the few remaining thst is supposed to do it for normal spares. Or could be outsourced, or done by Skoda.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
Fabia upgrades are for speed and reliability...
https://www.fiaerc.com/skoda-hopes-u...more-reliable/
Sorry, but that is quite obvious. For what else they should be?
Style?
TBH I didnt think the koda had reliability as a weakness after all this time.
As much as you need to adress your weaknesses you need to develop your strong properties becuase those are what brought you where you are. Moreover everything is connected in one system. The fact things worked reliably before doesn't mean they would continue to work same way after you change half of the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
A stronger rear axle, better rear brake cooling and better engine lubrication are all one connected system ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
better reliability doesnt mean that was a weak car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
better reliability maybe means longer service intervals,or longer life of some parts
Yes, of course. The car is the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
You might not believe but one of the biggest contributors to reliability issues is vibrations and resonances. Those could be especially tricky because basically everything in the car (including the crew weight) has an impact on them and whatever you change might surpise you in the long term. Even with the most modern simulations the only way to avoid issues with them is testing, testing and another testing.
Also as dimviii said, better reliability could mean also longer service intervals. Everyone wants his parts to last longer, that applies especially for the private customers.
David Salanon bought Citroën C3 Rally2 ex Crugnola to contest national and 2nd division rallies in France. Will do some rallies and test with TM Competition with M-Sport Ford Fiesta Rally2 too.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErN4VgTX...jpg&name=large
List of upgrades in Citroen C3 Rally2:
https://www.fiaerc.com/camilli-takes...y2-for-a-spin/
Running in conditions which varied from dry asphalt through rain, snow and ice, Breen found the car an improvement across the board on its predecessor, the i20 R5.
“The feeling is very, very good from the car,” said Breen. “It’s predictable and consistent when it comes to the roll centre and the transition of grip and weight in the corner. Being a new car, there’s been the freedom to work on the geometry and that’s made a difference.
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/season-2...-developments/
Any more info from VAG on this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Will someone halp the existing customers, or will nothing happen?
Hopefully they get on with testing again after Monte.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
If I was Adamo I would have shipped one of the new Rally2 i20s, along with a trailer of spares and a tech or two to "The Solbergs" for a Hackathon in Sweden. Let them play with it for a month!
They are good testers and will give very good feedback to the Rally2 team in Germany!
I wonder how much of an improvement you really can get in R5s lately.
Sure todays R5s are something else than first Fiesta R5 all those years ago. But when looking at the very top of the cars that are known to work well there doesn't seem to be much difference.
When Polo came it seemed like a bit of a step up for a moment, but then within 4-6 months over multiple rallies it somehow looked equal to Fabia (Evo) again. Similar with C3 that started good on tarmac and terrible on gravel and now it looks somehow similar to Fabia and Polo. (I purposely avoid I20 which seems to do very well a few times and then terrible next...)
Is it that everyone is closing up to the limit of regulations?
No but the regulations restrain everyone from bringing groundbraking ideas and also restrain them to bring few larger improvements because the number of jokers is very small. Therefore the development of all cars is mostly about details which make them better but not that much to crush the others.
By the way Mikkelsen may have driven the new ultimate spec Fabia in Monte Carlo (next step is switch to Fabia III).
According to Mr. Hrabánek Škoda sold already around 370 R5/Rally2 Fabias. He said he would be happy to reach 400 till the end of year.
in his Monte vlog, he said at the pre-evemt test it was his first run in the ‘2021 car’Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Have you heard that there is some guy in France who built a prototype Toyota Yaris Rally2 Kit?
https://rallyandrace.pl/toyota-yaris...PavDJPDZwpBLCk
It's not a prototype. Everybody can build and homologate Rally2 Kit/R4.
This belongs to "R4 news and results" discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
This is an interresting question.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
If you have a R5 from Ford, Skoda, VW or Hyundai that has gotten all upgrades along the way.
How much slower are they than a new Rally2 car woth all their bells and whistles?
My impression is that a top notch driver can still do well in a well maintained Fiesta or Fabia from 2013/14 with all jokers onboard.
Maybe not in WRC, but at least in national/regional series and maybe also in ERC.
That is the best evidence of success of the formula of the R5/Rally2 cars.
Rally3 follows in the same path, and will hopefully be as successful when we look back in 8-10 years.
But it’s called Rally2 Kit?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
That's just a new R4 name under the new system.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Because R4 would be too confusing with Rally4, which now has the R2 and R3 cars. It's a mess...
Rally4 doesn´t have R3(T) cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
RC4 has R2(T), R3(T) and Rally4 cars
You were the one telling us to use the new official FIA class names, no? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
So it is a 4 wheel drive car to compete in Rally2 class or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
R4 and R5 were booth in RC2 too. Nothing changed, just the name.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Rally1 cars -> WRC spec -> RC1 category
Rally2 cars -> R5 spec -> RC2 category
Rally2-Kit cars -> R4 spec -> RC2 category
Rally3 cars -> New 4WD spec -> RC3 category
Rally4 cars -> R2 spec -> RC4 category
Rally5 cars -> R1 spec -> RC5 category
Then perhaps someone should rename the R4 topic as ‘Rally2 Kit’Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Yes and still am, but that´s name of discussion, should be "Rally2+Kit news and results" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
New Fabia road car is coming in the spring. Hopefully we’ll see a concept Rally2 car soon after and the first public tests..
https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/...the-new-fabia/
The new car is likely to be prettier than the current Fabia but also wider so it may lose that chunky chiselled look of the current R5 car that i rather like.