Wrc Rally Argentina 2017

https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing/st...65340966563841

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Originally Posted by Norm75

What I would say is there wasn't really anything wrong with Kris' line.

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I just watched his and Ogier's on-boards on that place. Ogier is taking left before the corner and already positioned the car for the next left in the corner. Meeke was taking straight into it and obviously positioned the car for the next left at the bump, which unfortunately rolled the car at that speed. Bad luck? no, pure driving error.

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Originally Posted by René

https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing/st...65340966563841

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They really managed it, congrats!

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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

Seriously? Meeke was still on the road when Evans came by, lucky he didn't end up with a front right puncture since he was a bit more to the left when he hit it at slow speed.

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Yes, I just watched Evans' on-board there and Meeke was there, wasn't aware of it, my mistake.

once more,maybe you didn't read it(doubt it though)

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

. Bad luck? no, pure driving error.

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This is not what we expected but fortunately this rarely happens. Our two cars, on a compression, had a heavy impact on the crankcase protector. We have to look at why we had such a strong impact there because we had not seen that it would be so impacting during the reconnaissance. But it's neither the fault of Kris Meeke nor that of Craig Breen, "said Yves Matton on the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, special envoy of the RTBF in Argentina.

Arab team of nobodies from top to bottom.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-koE1MU0AAOsPe.jpg

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Not a fan of Paddon

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Originally Posted by dimviii

once more,maybe you didn't read it(doubt it though)



This is not what we expected but fortunately this rarely happens. Our two cars, on a compression, had a heavy impact on the crankcase protector. We have to look at why we had such a strong impact there because we had not seen that it would be so impacting during the reconnaissance. But it's neither the fault of Kris Meeke nor that of Craig Breen, "said Yves Matton on the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, special envoy of the RTBF in Argentina.

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Yes I read it. Don't worry.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

Yes I read it. Don't worry.

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so you read it,but you incist that you know better .



#tyre info: all Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 Michelin LTX Force S5 #wrc #RallyArgentina

We've chosen five DMACK DMG+2 GS62 soft compound tyres for this morning

Breen still in service due to fuel leak. Will get penalty.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

so you read it,but you incist that you know better .

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Finally You understand.

here we go again...

Rally Argentina‏*@rallyargentina
SS10 is delayed due to spectators #YPFRallyArgentina2017

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

Breen still in service due to fuel leak. Will get penalty.

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oil leak not fuel.

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Originally Posted by Norm75

solely blaming driver for error is a little harsh. You say 'cut too much', I don't know if you've seen external footage, but from onboard it looks as though kris' car was very much on the road, a cut is where one or more wheels are off the road and on grass verge, or whatever might be there.
Yes, compressions can be put in notes on recce, but as recce is carried out in different car at lower speed it must be difficult to judge what effect it will have at race pace.

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it doesn't matter if it is on the road or not, if it is likely to cause trouble you have to have it in the notes.
if there is a three in the middle of the road, you aren't going to crash into it just because you follow the road are you?

I've driven rally's where there were huge potholes right in the middle of the road, deep enough to likely rip a wheel off. nobody drives through them just because they are on the normal line. no, people adjust their speed and/or line to avoid them.

and yes, drivers with that much experience know what a certain hole a bump will do to their car, even when doing recce at slow speed.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

General question. Where we can watch good split times except wrc.com/wrc+?

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For me wrc.com splits are a lot faster than others. And I see splits earlier than rally radio, I think it pretty fast.

But if you don't like wrc.com splits try Michelin splits https://ranking-wrc.michelin.rngd.io...tina/splits/10 but they mb 30sec or so slower than wrc.com but have start time of a car

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Originally Posted by KKS

For me wrc.com splits are a lot faster than others. And I see splits earlier than rally radio, I think it pretty fast.

But if you don't like wrc.com splits try Michelin splits https://ranking-wrc.michelin.rngd.io...tina/splits/10 but they mb 30sec or so slower than wrc.com but have start time of a car

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I like wrc.com splits just fine, just since yesterday their site jams my firefox for some reason. But on chrome all seems ok. Thanks.

Tanti - Villa Bustos 1, 20.80km. This well-known test has been reversed for 2017. It starts in the middle on Tanti on asphalt before twisting uphill and crossing several water splashes. The second part is faster with some big corners that demand bravery. It is rough initially but becomes smoother as the roads widen towards the finish.

wow watch Paddons 1st split

it would be a lot faster till to the end of car list. I expect near -9.0 for 2nd place battlers

lol

Citroën Racing‏*@CitroenRacing
@Craig_Breen and @scottmartinat retire from #RallyArgentina day 2 because of an oil leak... #WRC

shit.... this is not funny Citorens :(

I am curious how will go today Evans, can he keep the advantage?

Shouldnt Meeke be on the top of Start order? Does anyone know rally 2 regulations for starting order? Many thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by Sch17

Shouldnt Meeke be on the top of Start order? Does anyone know rally 2 regulations for starting order? Many thanks in advance!

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From this year, they are running just behind car nr 1. Different order for Powerstage

Nice 1st split from Neuville

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Originally Posted by Sch17

Shouldnt Meeke be on the top of Start order? Does anyone know rally 2 regulations for starting order? Many thanks in advance!

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all rc1 cars in reverse order, than after rally2 rc1 cars, than all others

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Originally Posted by denkimi

and yes, drivers with that much experience know what a certain hole a bump will do to their car, even when doing recce at slow speed.

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yes for sure if it's a visible hazard it should be in notes.
There is absolutely no way of knowing what a bump will do to the car.
There is plenty to speculate as to what it [I]might[I] do to their car, but knowing exactly how it will react at any given speed would be nigh on impossible.

Neuville split 1 ultra fast.Lets wait for Evans

Tänak stalled the engine and still fastest at the moment

Come on Elfyn... keep it going today !

Breen had to be retired but Meeke can carry on after wrecking the car... amazing.

Is the stage broadcast anywhere? Colin said on the radio that there is heli + onboard footage

And Ostberg started well again by the looks of Split 1... Evans too. :)

Östberg has lost second to judge the second split

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Come on Elfyn... keep it going today !

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nope, today he should keep position... not push.

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Originally Posted by KKS

nope, today he should keep position... not push.

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I didnt say push.

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Originally Posted by abxyz

Is the stage broadcast anywhere? Colin said on the radio that there is heli + onboard footage

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As always now.... 1st pass of afternoon live TV stage broadcasting only at service park :(
2nd pass for all and wrc+

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Originally Posted by KKS

nope, today he should keep position... not push.

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He doesn't keep at 2nd split, probably stage win

Hydraulic issue hits Ostberg.. :(

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Originally Posted by abxyz

Is the stage broadcast anywhere? Colin said on the radio that there is heli + onboard footage

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I think same situation as Corsica. Filmed this morning ahead of live stage this afternoon. Shame to not see it.

Fiesta hydraulics gone again - this time for Mads.