Much as we might like to see the '17 Polo in the WRC, personally I wouldnt bet any of my money on it ever happening.
And the longer it takes the further behind it will be with all the other cars running and gaining reliability and performance..
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Much as we might like to see the '17 Polo in the WRC, personally I wouldnt bet any of my money on it ever happening.
And the longer it takes the further behind it will be with all the other cars running and gaining reliability and performance..
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
With you on this. How much testing in it has he actually done? Probably not more than the others last year. He'll be way off the other boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Well, he's done zero testing in any other car so the Polo will be the easiest choice. So instead of wasting the three rallies he might do on setting up a car it might be better to use the Polo like he said himself "It's the only car i know how to drive"Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
Little boy defeated by Mads Østberg with barely 5 second in Rally Finnskog today.
Østberg had a broken front diff and some brake issues, Veiby started 7 cars behind and has probably been recceing these stages a 100 times through the years as he lives there, but still a good drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by olemann
Mikkelsen is probably not willing to pay for a seat but if he wanted a seat is not lack of money missing. He is not some kid with no money, even in Norway. None of you would be able to dream of buying his father's cottage An example.
I think I had read that last years are not so wealthy
Does not look like that in Norwegian tax rolls today.
It's going to be a real shame when Ostberg, Prokop & Bertelli all have '17 WRC cars if AM still hasn't... :(
Well, you can only blame Mikkelsen for not being willing to cough up the money for the car.
There is not many drivers willing to use own personal money for driving in the WRC. Petter being an exception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Even would find some sponsors if they wanted.
So they should step back and say: "Here you are, use our money and spend it on a VW. We can stand beside and look when you´re driving WRC, with our money." Is that what you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Not at all. It's just that AM has a greater talent and we will be denied seeing it and instead have lesser drivers in these new cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Mikkelsen should get the money and bet in Fiesta WRC'17. Cheaper than the VW, will be developed by Ogier and can shine again with same car of 4 time champion.
It's a pity he couldnt have partnered with fellow-Norwegan Ostberg, instead of Prokop... but I assume he just couldnt afford it with sponsorship.
...and that is the sticking point! For anyone to rally a 2017 Polo it must be homolagated. For it to be homolgated it must be entered by a 'manufacturer' team for the whole season before any private examples may compete. This is what the other teams have quite rightly objected to.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
My feeling, if the VW thing doesn't work, AM will end up in one of the current WRC Teams. He's very talented and valuable driver, and some other team disappointments may open the door for him.
From all the meetings it's clear that in the eyes of the FIA you don't need to do a whole season at all. You can get an extraordinary waiver. I wonder whether by just committing to a limited programme the other teams might be more likely to say yes - rather than 10 rounds of potentially big competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
That’s not such a silly idea. There are several examples of rich, but less talented, drivers that found they could live their rally passion supporting talented drivers and become codrivers or team managers (Joaquim Santos, portuguese rally hero, was backed during almost his entire career by codriver and team owner Miguel Oliveira, that started himself as a driver).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Btw, Bertelli came from a country were wealthy people have been generous patrons for centuries. Instead of being a 3rd level driver, it’d be great to see him on WRC as FUCKMATIE team manager, giving young talented drivers the chance to rise and shine on this fantastic sport.
Nasser did it (a bit) with Neuville. Maybe he will do something with Mikkelsen.
Never going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
We all like to see Mikkelsen in a WRC car but living in a fantasy world won't make that happen.
It is a silly idea when people suggest the they "should" do it. It is not a silly idea if they want to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
New crystal ball? How can you be so sure Mikkelsen won’t get a chance and say it’s a fantasy to see him driving a WRC this year? Probably that VW deal won’t happen, but if he gets enough money maybe Mr. Wilson will try to get him a car for 2 or 3 events.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
I think he was saying it's a fantasy for a guy like Prokop or Bertelli to pay for the car and team infrastructure - then simply hand it over to Andreas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Yes, indeed that is what I meant. Seeing Mikkelsen in a '17 car could happen, but not by having Bertelli/Prokop/insert paydriver pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
No-one said any of the privateers should pay for a Mikkelsen drive.. just that it's a shame these lesser drivers have the money for a car and he hasn't.
BTW, with Ostberg, Prokop and Bertelli buying drives in 2017 cars, is the WRC Trophy dead ?
i'm afraid the trophy wil never be a succes, these 3 drivers would be perfect for that trophy. But if they want the 2017 spec, its also ok for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Let's put it the way how it's in reality. Mikkelsen is not willing to pay unlike those lesser drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If Mikkelsen has know about VW exit before, he probably had a seat this year. With or without some sort of backing. If ogier had refused M-sport, Mikkelsen would been driving ogiers car.
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Is it common for driver's contract to have clause that require mandatory minimal performance, and if not met, contract to be terminated?
You suggest he could pay but he wont. Is there any proof of this ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
I believe his family stopped paying for his rallying a long time ago.
lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
Like i said and (i think) N. O. T. said, the trophy is a farse. Better open the trophy to 2017 cars... privateer is the driver/team not the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I don't agree. Privateer trophy have no reason to exist with official WRC cars imho. They're using the same car as the championship and there is already a trophy for it: the world championship. If they want they can win it. With 2016 cars is ok but not with new ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
There is no reason to find more than one winner like in the kindergarten.
Veiby said so in an article on parcferme.noQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
So Serderidis last and first in Monte Carlo is better? Privateers do a sacrifice to be there and no media attention. Not a championship, a trophy to they.
Link ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
He has been a paid driver for many years now. Who would his source of support be ?
I kind of agree, but the others have the money for 2017 cars so they dont really need the media/trophy for sponsors...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira