10 minutes for missing the final stage of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Meanwhile Ostberg keeps telling excuses for his slow pace...
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10 minutes for missing the final stage of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Meanwhile Ostberg keeps telling excuses for his slow pace...
he's like a fish out of water in tarmac, will take him some time to get his skills better on the black stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Two notes about Ogier's off:
1. He's most probably going to "whine" about the long standing on the startline (cold tyres, loss of concentration) because of organisation error (it's justified in my opinion, but only to certain extent).
2. BUT according to Meeke's comment, the corner was "a place", aka very tricky place ("Ohh, I know the place, very tricky, almost caught me few years back in a Mini"). So I heavily doubt that the off has been entirely down to waiting and subsequent cold tyres (also it was some 7+ kms into the stage, so time to get them warm). Pressure got to him?
JML should chill now and focus to finish the rally by not taking any risks. Meeke showing good time, but I think he cant reach JML because he (Meeke) want to finish the rally as well, at least a podium finish.
Lot's of ifs. This is only the end of day one and and with the change of conditions everything can be twisted in one or two stages.
Second best time for Sordo, taking 4 sec back from Meeke. Could be a great fight tomorrow for second.
Sordo about to do a great time in SS6 :confused:
Yes, JML has got a nice cushion but one has to remember that most of the rally remains and the conditions will be tricky if (or rather when) it rains. Also, if they run in reverse order as I believe they should if I read regs right, JML will have to cope with muddy corners. If he gets to run first on the road, it's much easier for him.
Why was the stage delayed?
Well, Rallyper, I did not expect him to go off, I excpected him to destroy a rim or something, but I did expect him to react to the pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I think this is what happened:
Ogier tried VERY hard on the first SS to "kill" the battle at once, but JML clung on.
Then he continoued to try very hard to create a gap, taking VERY big chances like the cut we saw in SS1. But still no big gap.
Then he pushes even more - not contempt on being second, or even in a battle for first, he wants to lead big time - and it bites him.
The trend since Helsinki Battle, Rally Finland and now is qiute obvious, over driving.
The spiral I wrote about earlier.
But I, and I guess most of You, am still in schock!
(But i register that my predictions regarding speed have been quit correct;))
Safety car off.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
The important thing for JML is that he has to drive fast enough to be over the treshold of the dampers/chassis. If not he will loose to much grip. The "safety" should come more from the safer lines You take, not the "safer" speed. He should drive 80% lines and 90-95% speed, and he will be safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostmourne
Was it the Toyota? :-)
Love this WRC radio! Hope Colin still is there when Henk Vossen arrives.
Camilli is doing again a great time in SS6(his two first splits are better than the one from Riedemann fastest JWRC so far) :eek:
So the battle of the VWs takes its first casualty.. I thought it would sooner or later.
Bet the team are worried now about a repeat of 2013...
What does JML do... fight on for the win and risk none or stay safe and take points for the Team title..
fight for the win against who ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Henk Vossen did not finish :(
Whoever is closest.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
What is the position, anyone know for definite... JML first or reverse order ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
I can't believe Marijan Griebel(Opel R2) is doing times almost as fast as the JWRC :crazy:
Live interviews now on the WRC Live Stream .. :)
Capito states 'no team orders' & he knew Ogier/JML fight could lead to a mistake and Ogier made it ...
Is this the regulation - does this apply to all rallies ?
2014 FIA World Rally Championship Sporting Regulations
Application from: 01/01/2014 36/96
Published on: 30/06/2014
45.3 START ORDER FOR SUBSEQUENT DAYS
45.3.1 The start order for the first section on subsequent second days shall be based on the
classification at the finish of the final special stage of the previous day excluding super special stages if run
at the end of the day.
45.3.2 P1 and P2 drivers
P1 and P2 drivers shall normally re-start as a merged group in reverse order according to their overall
classification.
OK we may have had a clash of know-it-alls in this forum but I grant that Lundefaret's predictions after shakedown have held pretty strongly.
1st day I am impressed with:
Camilli - FFSA just knows how to pick their junior drivers I guess. Who predicted an exciting battle in WRC3?
Reidemann - Yes it's his home rally, but he's been head-and-shoulders above the rest (if you discount his time penalty)
Maurin, Tidemand, Sousa - always nice to have a battle in the support categories and I am quite surprised that these three have fought well.
Sordo - wait, hear me out - he seems to be positioning himself for a repeat of last year; start slow and midfield, work your way up to top non-VW. No telling if that will give him a win as it did last year, but he definitely seems to be picking up.
And of course Meeke again impresses if he can keep it on the road. Maybe Ogier's consistence and Meeke's over-driving have somehow switched between the two of them.
Latvala looking serious on asphalt after 10 years training... practice makes perfect I guess.
Not happy about Bouffier, it's amazing to me he can privateer drive to the podium on M-C (and win it in IRC!), cross a little way over the border into Germany and be so much slower in a factory car. I would've wanted to see him do more.
Can anyone analyze how Evans is progressing this year? Is he driving better than when he started? Hard to tell since it's a different surface but he seems like Mr 7th Place at the moment. Bit like how Henning used to dominate that position... I know he's young, I've just not noticed any "flashes of brilliance" you sometimes get with young guys in his position (stage wins, one rally where everything goes right and he makes 4th or whatever, and so on).
Malcolm Wilson just said this was Evans 'best day ever' in a WRC car ...Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
he was actually faster than Ostberg, Hirvonen, Neuville and KubicaQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Content will be the word you were looking for, contempt is a different word entirelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
Evans does a great job... it is a kind of performance he has to build on if he wants a career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
"The clas of the know-it-alls", sounds like a brilliant title for a satiric comedy:)Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
I agree with You kirungi okwogera, Camilli very strong, also Reidemann.
Sordo has been hampered by a bad starting position, but will come on very strong (and proves that the Hyundai is fast;))
Bouffier:
Regarding Bouffier I dont think its fair to expect more.
Firstly: A private car now is different to what it was before. See Pontus Tideman in Sweden in 2013. Se Bouffier in MC. Or what about Mads in a private Ford compared to a factory spec. A private Ford is only marginally slower than a factory one.
Monte is a specialist event, and Bouffier is a specialist. And the typicall tarmac rallies he has done before are very different to Germany.
Bouffier has talent, but Germany is very difficult for the drivers that dont fully understand weight management. First pass on a dry road You can perform okay, but You will loose time in the hairpins (and it doesnt help having the wrong gearing), but second passes, or stages with mud, they take no prisoners.
Hes chanses would be better in rallies like Corsica or Catalunya etc.
One guy I would really like to see in a Hyundai on tarmac is actually Paddon. He would struggle in germany to, but tarmac testing footage was more impressive than the gravel tests.
Evans:
I agree with You regarding Evans. He has not proved him self worthy of his current position, and should up his game. But how, if he dont know how?
Mr Wilson often have a three year plan for Young drivers, and a lot can of cource happen in three years, but absolutly not impressive so far - except for one thing. In the interview after the Power Stage in Portugal he said something that gave me a glimmer of hope in regards to what he needs to work on, but so far, not so good. Sorry... And the test before Germany, ouch...
I am actualy impressed of Evans speed compared to the testing footage, and the fact that he is still on the road. I would have predicted him understeering off already, so that is positive in my mind:)
In contempt of the court or something;) My bad. English is not my native language, but I guess most people on this forum will better understand my poorly written English compared to my somewhat better written Norwegian;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nornbugger
So Doctor N.O.T. is he a healthy dog, not a sick one then?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I am glad to hear even oscar the grouch is not so skeptical of Evans potential. Seems the consensus here is positive. I will watch him more closely in the future!
Lunde, I too would love to see Paddon in a WRC on tarmac. 8th in Spain on his world rally car debut last year remember.
aren't the day 1 full highlights suppose to begin now?
I have a link from web page and put in into VLC player - it's works fine, but two problems 1) 25% load for CPU and 15sec deleyQuote:
Originally Posted by MTA
Try same with Android VLC - it works! But not good too
try this link
in any stream playerCode:http://wrcaudio-lh.akamaihd.net/i/wrc_audio_eng_1@61305/master.m3u8
From Bouffier should be expected much more on tarmac.... and he is in factory car I believe. But his performance seem to reflect his current situation "in the middle of nowhere".Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
From Evans I personally expect much more next year when he should begin to fight for something, now he is learning the Rallies as he says many times, so we should just wait and see.
Quite odd Ogier to make major mistakes in Germany 2 consecutive years, I guess this Rally doesn't suit him well.
Weather forecast for Saturday:
Light rain early... then remaining cloudy with showers in the afternoon.
High 63F. Winds WSW at 10 to 15 mph.
Chance of rain 70%.
Evans cannot be judged this year... this performance in germany could be very well be a fluke and he can follow the wilson/warmbold road of no development at all and perish when his dads money end.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
That is why i said he must build on this performance... he must use this as a standard and move on with small steps... if he manages to develop it will be good for him and the sport if he doesn't he will join a very very long list.
I wonder if WRC will show any footage of Ogier off...
There is a new app in Android, if you still have the old one. Maybe this one works for you. For me it works fineQuote:
Originally Posted by MTA
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ola1.wrc&hl=en
interesting rally,but couldnt follow as i wanted due to holidays.
Ogier after off
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvqFZG6CUAAFMlF.jpg:large
nice photo from Lavadinho Andre
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvpHBPaCMAAS_z9.jpg:large