Monte Carlo 2008

[DonJippo]

No time for Bosse...problems...? :(

Erm... :confused:

[SubaruNorway]

How's the results gona work this year can't see anything on ww.wrc.com? some inboards from shakedown uploaded there though.

[DonJippo]

How's the results gona work this year can't see anything on ww.wrc.com? some inboards from shakedown uploaded there though.

Here you go http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=401&desc=Rallye%20Automobile%20Monte%20Carlo&season=2008&rally_id=MC

[HaCo]

How's the results gona work this year can't see anything on ww.wrc.com? some inboards from shakedown uploaded there though.

LOL, go to the specific rally where you can select split times an stage times... :)

[Waldrons11]

Here you go http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=401&desc=Rallye%20Automobile%20Monte%20Carlo&season=2008&rally_id=MC

Yeah, loads of interviews and on board clips from shakedown already up on wrc.com. :)

[KKS]

Hello to everyone
i wish to have a good championship with close fights and
i hope that subaru will be strong.

does anyone know where or in which site
can we see the split times this year ?
because there is not split section in the new official wrc page

I know :)

wrc.com

http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2008&rally_id=MC

PS Oops. 3 min diff :(

[Brother John]

How's the results gona work this year can't see anything on ww.wrc.com? some inboards from shakedown uploaded there though.


I´m number 3! ;)

Maybe it will work here?
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2008&rally_id=MC

Who is next with same link? :D

[RS]

Regarding Monte Carlo, it was today confirmed that for 2009 it is the IRC opener.

[Corny]

at what time will the first stage begin?

[SubaruNorway]

Here you go http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=401&desc=Rallye%20Automobile%20Monte%20Carlo&season=2008&rally_id=MC

Pretty sure it wasen't there before :P

[KKS]

Any times from SS1?

[MikeD]

at what time will the first stage begin?

I think it's 18.00 CET ... in other words in 1 minute

[Mauri A]

No time for Bosse...problems...?
:( [/QUOTE]
Don´t worry, he will be the first and fastest spectator in TipTop bar in Monte Carlo!

[MikeD]

WTF ... no WRR?

[Brother John]

at what time will the first stage begin?

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=405&season=2008&rally_id=MC :p :


SS1
St Jean En Royans
28.12
24/1/08 18:46:00
SS2
La Cime Du Mas
17.57
24/1/08 19:36:00

[SubaruNorway]

WTF ... no WRR?

? works here http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=320

Edit: ehh did

[SubaruNorway]

radio Ok again

[miksu]

15 mins for the season 2008 to start!!

[HaCo]

13 now... :D

[N.O.T]

Happy Season everyone....can't wait for the start !!!!

[miksu]

Those days of autumn, when the season seemed to be so far away...now its here again!! :)

[SubaruNorway]

We are live :D http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=320

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Vai Gigi :D

Forzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[A.F.F.]

Pity those F1 fans. Well, what the heck, couple of months fly by :D

[KKS]

no splits?!

[HaCo]

Hmm, split times don't show anyone on the stage... pitty.

[miksu]

i wonder if we get splits from here http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/wrc/splits.php

[Langdale Forest]

The splits are not live splits.

[bf1_IRL]

Hi everyone radio link for Windows Media Player: http://broadcast.global-mix.net/?m=gmuk-n.one-fm&.wvx=

Happy 2008 :)

[N.O.T]

radio also not reporting yet.....

[Finni]

The rally has started and rallyradio is just playing music..

[Langdale Forest]

They are talking now.

[Finni]

I wonder if it's impossible to create consistently working split system..

[User]

Not only the splits aren't working, this board looks like it's going to crash too.

[N.O.T]

Srodo fastest by 1.5 secs from Loeb after 3rd split...

[peterpz]

No splits nowhere?

[Finni]

split 3

Sordo leading. Loeb + 1.5, Hirvonen + 7

[KKS]

Looks like wrc.com has splits, but not show splits for as

[SubaruNorway]

split 3

Sordo leading. Loeb + 1.5, Hirvonen + 7

Where did you get that? looks like we need to refresh the page ourselfs, i know im lazy :P

[Finni]

Oh boys music and old interviews.

[miksu]

Where did you get that? looks like we need to refresh the page ourselfs, i know im lazy :P

they told in radio

[N.O.T]

ok on WRC.com the splits started to show some progress.....no drivers yet but numbers on the splits are on...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

According to rally radio Latavla stopped in the satage...

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen 10 seconds slower....Loeb 2.5 slower and sordo leads.....JM latavala stopped...all according to radio...

[Brother John]

Latvala stopt on the stage????????? acording radio!

[peterpz]

I don't see any splits working on wrc.com...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Latvala moving.. maybe problems.. he was stooped for some minutes... (around 2)

[jonkka]

Final time for Sordo but no Loeb?

[Huufke]

14:08.9 for Sordo, Petter Solberg +41.2
No time for Loeb and Hirvonen yet.

[A.F.F.]

Great. :mark: As soon as the action starts, this forum jams.

[N.O.T]

Solberg 40 seconds slower from Sordo.....where are the fords and Loeb on final stage times ????

[Corny]

this site is a complete joke..

[miksu]

first tyre blow?

[N.O.T]

Atko 10 seconds faster than Solberg...30 seconds off Sordo...Loeb and the fords out ???

[HaCo]

LOL AFF, not the first time...

Damn times not getting through!!!

[Corny]

I mean WRC.com uh!!

[A.F.F.]

Pirelli shows some stage times.

:http://www.pirellityre.com/web/motorsport/rally/wrc/default.page?racepath=/pirellityre/en_IT/browser/xml/bodies/Race_WRC_2008_1.xml&standingpath=/pirellityre/en_IT/browser/xml/racing/season-results/Standing_WRC_2008.xml&race=1

[SubaruNorway]

big gaps already http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=405&season=2008&rally_id=MC

[HaCo]

Duval +38.7!

[dimviii]

hellooooo to everyone!! :p :

this must be an interesting year! :D
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php

[N.O.T]

Duval +38 from Sordo....still no news on the official fords team and Loeb....probably they are all out...rally radio is annoying !!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are playiong music while they give no info whatsoever.....

[[Madeira-Rally]]

According to wrc site Duval 38.7 sec. slower than Sordo :s

[bf1_IRL]

ACM results here : http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2008/live.php&SN=2008&RN=MC&xpage=stage&stage=1

[Corny]

Is Loeb out :s ?

[dimviii]

latvala +4.10!!

[N.O.T]

ok the radio presenter said Loeb to win !!!!....now do they know something we don't ??? Loeb doesn't appear like a finalist ......

[HaCo]

Gardemeister +58.7
Latvala +4:10.2
swrt.com

[Wim_Impreza]

Duval has a better time than Solberg, but slower than Atkinson...

[User]

Bare in mind that Duval sucks at driving at night. He said that he will try to keep 'the damage' as low as possible on those two first stages.

[PLuto]

Results are also here: http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/

[Corny]

]According to wrc site Duval 38.7 sec. slower than Sordo :s

that's no surprise, Duval is not fast in the dark, drives with a new co-driver, and doesn't know these stages

[N.O.T]

ok the acm results are the correct ones.....Loeb in and Hirvonen in.....1-2 for citroen already...the Fords are behind by a mile...

[Finni]

It looks like Citroen is massacring others.

[dimviii]

loeb is still alive!!

second at+3,8sec

[J4MIE]

Well guys I was looking forward to following this, but quite honestly I just can't be bothered :(

[Josti]

acm site says Loeb did a 2nd time, +3.8 off Sordo.

[Roy]

this site is a complete joke..

WRC is ok for now

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=405&season=2008&rally_id=MC

SORDO,
Loeb and big gap to hirvonen.

[DonJippo]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php

This site seems to be one that get's results up fastest.

[A.F.F.]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=149&stage=2571&category=&group=

Seem to be the steadiest... again. :up:

[N.O.T]

pathetic times by the suzuki team :(

[PLuto]

Race is over, Citroen will win everything...

[N.O.T]

bare in mind that all the F1 creatures are following this since the oversized primadonna cart championship is still some months away so the wrc sites have increased traffic.

[Roy]

Splits working by now.
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2008&rally_id=MC

[miksu]

Garde fighting of points with sx4 ;)

[HaCo]

Wilson slower than Suzuki's... maybe he's testing Fords S2000 technology in a Focus? ;)

[N.O.T]

Race is over, Citroen will win everything...

well i don't think anyone thought differently....

[A.F.F.]

Cool. Splits are so great to get AFTER they have finished the stage :bounce:

[N.O.T]

Wilson still learning the car don't se so cruel to him, give him 10-15 years and he will be up there....

[Josti]

Wilson slower than Suzuki's... maybe he's testing Fords S2000 technology in a Focus? ;)

Nah, he's just being himself :p :

[HaCo]

Wilson still learning the car don't se so cruel to him, give him 10-15 years and he will be up there....

LOL

[N.O.T]

Abu Dahbi also bought the rally radio....niiiiiiiice.....

[A.F.F.]

Jean Marie Cock ?? That's what Beks said, right? :D

[consti]

gardemeister is not so bad actually, he is in 8th position so this is what they wwanted to be (perhaps not past the first stage)
but IF the car can hold together he MIGHT get some points on sunday

[miksu]

hehe... Toni 8th!!!!

[J4MIE]

Wilson still learning the car don't se so cruel to him, give him 10-15 years and he will be up there....

Even Al Qassimi is 15 seconds faster than him. Who was it that said we should judge a driver by his results.............?

[jparker]

I guess JML is dreaming about moose tyres by now :)

[Waldrons11]

Even Al Qassimi is 15 seconds faster than him. Who was it that said we should judge a driver by his results.............?

matt spun on some ice in stage 1

latvala had a puncture

[MrJan]

Just looked at the early splits from SS1, already looks like well done to Loeb for a great Monte victory. Anyone know why the time differences are so big? Only a 14 minute stage for Sordo but most people have dropped more than 30 seconds. Also what happened to Latvala?

[Roy]

Latvala has a puncture.

[Waldrons11]

rautenbach went off on stage 1. Not a great start for the African champ!

[A.F.F.]

rautenbach went off on stage 1. Not a great start for the African champ!

And not a great start for my pickems. I had Rautenbach in. One down, seven to go :s

[Antti]

Can I find the splits anywhere ?

Antti

[consti]

And not a great start for my pickems. I had Rautenbach in. One down, seven to go :s
rautenbach in, your jokin, aren't you?

[MikeD]

Jean Marie Cock ?? That's what Beks said, right? :D

Becks is a disaster at pronauncing names...ok, she's actually a disaster at everything regarding rally.

PS: I had a working partner in the Netherlands whos name was Dik Kock .... :lol:
It's true :lol: But why on earth would parents call a kid that when you already have that sir name?

[A.F.F.]

Can I find the splits anywhere ?

Antti

Yes, you can :)

[Josti]

And not a great start for my pickems. I had Rautenbach in. One down, seven to go :s

One of mine in top 8 didn't even start!!! ;)

All bets on Wilson then...

[MrJan]

splits supposed to be on wrc.com but don't seem to be coming up for me

[A.F.F.]

rautenbach in, your jokin, aren't you?

I'm not joking, I don't have a sense of humour. I trusted on natural selection. i just didn't figure out it would be Rautenbach to be selected first :D

[Micke_VOC]

PG was before Garde on Split 1 and 2 ... =)

[Buzz Lightyear]

matt spun on some ice in stage 1


he must have spun on every split.

[A.F.F.]

Becks is a disaster at pronauncing names...ok, she's actually a disaster at everything regarding rally.

PS: I had a working partner in the Netherlands whos name was Dik Kock .... :lol:
It's true :lol: But why on earth would parents call a kid that when you already have that sir name?

:laugh:

[Simmi]

Well it didnt take long for the first puncture did it jeeezz. If Sordo can keep in touch on this stage it will be a good fight tomorrow between the two c4's.

[Antti]

Yes, you can :)

You really kill me, just keep'm comin' and I'll die...

[Brother John]

Yes, you can :)

Can you pay me that 1 000 000 EURO now? :s mokin: :rotflmao:

[consti]

I'm not joking, I don't have a sense of humour. I trusted on natural selection. i just didn't figure out it would be Rautenbach to be selected first :D
so with latvala and rautenbach out of the top spots the selection already rapidly started....seems like the suzukis can have some luck at the end

*keepinginmindtheyhavetofinishfirst*

[A.F.F.]

You really kill me, just keep'm comin' and I'll die...

I know, I'll kill me too.

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2008&rally_id=MC

There you go.

EDIT: There aren't splits thou...

[MrJan]

why does Petter stay at Subaru year after year? They just don't do him justice anymore

[Josti]

why does Petter stay at Subaru year after year? They just don't do him justice anymore

We have 31 seperate threads for this question.

[Micke_VOC]

One driveshaft break around 10km in to ss1 for PG...


I gonna loose a lot on ss2 i think...

[consti]

respect for those subaru times, or was hirvonen so slow?

[N.O.T]

Atko keeps the trend of the end of last season and is conistently faster than his team mate.....Loeb just proves who is the rally driver in the championship.

[Simmi]

So for the second year in a row Loeb pulls around 15secs on this second stage.

Jari Matti hit a rock to get a puncture so maybe not a mouse thing.

[Josti]

Jari Matti hit a rock to get a puncture so maybe not a mouse thing.

More a Jarri-Matti thing :p :

Shame for him though and for Ford...

[N.O.T]

I think that Hirvonen accepted his fate and he will have the subarus in mind from now on and let the really big boys fight praying for a mistake.

[Simmi]

Sounds like Duval didnt have gravel crew notes for tonights 2 stages so must have been tricky in there.

[Micke_VOC]

No Clutch for Garde...

[SubaruNorway]

Any real problems for the Suzuki? whats a real problem LOL

[A.F.F.]

Suzukis are not going to see the finishline :mark:

[MikeD]

No Clutch for Garde...

One could fear it will end with "No Suzuki for Garde..."

Judging by the times of the SX4 it makes the Hyundai WRC looks like the Delta Integrale....

[Micke_VOC]

Gardemeister: Clutch Problem, intercom problem
PG: Driveshaft broke on ss1, 14km in.,

Not good start for Suzuki.....

[N.O.T]

Hmmm....anyone willing to make a bet that Suzuki are not finishing the season ??? can they forfeit ?? or the FIA will hang them in the main square due to contract ??

[Simmi]

Front wheel drive for PG on second stage. Clutch is gone for Garde. Not a good evening for the Sx4.

[bf1_IRL]

One could fear it will end with "No Suzuki for Garde..."

Judging by the times of the SX4 it makes the Hyundai WRC looks like the Delta Integrale....

Oh Dear... :laugh:

[consti]

seems to be a fast car, eventhough the clutch is gone

i expected them to totally fail today, but whoho they even reached the finish after two stages ;)

[Viking]

More a Jarri-Matti thing :p :

Shame for him though and for Ford...


And a flat battery on the impact wrench :mad:

[MikeD]

Hmmm....anyone willing to make a bet that Suzuki are not finishing the season ??? can they forfeit ?? or the FIA will hang them in the main square due to contract ??

It's the worst combo - The car is so slow and very unreliable. I will be surprised if they make it into the second part of the season.

They have been testing and testing and they come up with this? It's pathetic!

[dimviii]

119 km/h average for Sordo in 1st ss :eek:

[satukata]

Hmmm....anyone willing to make a bet that Suzuki are not finishing the season ??? can they forfeit ?? or the FIA will hang them in the main square due to contract ??
Give some time for Suzuki!

[Lousada]

Loeb already 44 secs in front after just two stages? Tell me this is a mistake!

[dimviii]

now we can understant why Nandan go away from this mess!

[N.O.T]

http://www.rallyforum.com/forums/images/aria/editor/separator.gifWilson slower than Gardemeister in the suzuki with the problematic clutch......thats perfect !!!!!

[ProRally]

Loeb already 44 secs in front after just two stages? Tell me this is a mistake!

No mistake..... :hot:

[N.O.T]

Give some time for Suzuki!

thanx i rather not.....not much they can do from now on.....pity because PG just lost a major opportunity.....he is now trapped in this yellow/white junk....i think he would be better off with an Aava kind of deal....

[Audimadgeoff]

Just spoken to Conrad.
He had hydraulic problems before the stage had even started, causing intermittent gearbox and power steering problems.
The car just locked up about 3/4 of the way through the stage and slid off, no damage but it looks like super rally for him! [8(]
not a happy bunny!

[MikeD]

Hehehe WRR read out my correction of Jean Marie Couq's name :D

[satukata]

It's the worst combo - The car is so slow and very unreliable. I will be surprised if they make it into the second part of the season.

They have been testing and testing and they come up with this? It's pathetic!

Tony was only 0,5sec/km slower than Petter and GIGI on SS1 so I say you shut up boys!

First rally and near Petter and Subaru so not so bad!!

Give some time so you will see even better speed!

[Josti]

Loeb already 44 secs in front after just two stages? Tell me this is a mistake!

Either my splits are slow, or Loeb was very fast!

[Lousada]

No mistake..... :hot:

This is going to be a looooong season :\

[A.F.F.]

It's the worst combo - The car is so slow and very unreliable. I will be surprised if they make it into the second part of the season.

They have been testing and testing and they come up with this? It's pathetic!

And they send a worst possible message to other manufacturers out there.

[Buzz Lightyear]

wilson... OMG.. getting beatin al quassimi... with all respect... a guy who grew up driving in 90 degrees on sand!

[Langdale Forest]

Loeb leads after the first night of the rally.

[A.F.F.]

Wilson isn't showing much but he is better on gravel. Monte is not the favourite rally for so many drivers. Basicly Loeb, Sordo and Duval are ought to succeed there.

[Josti]

Loeb leads after the first night of the rally.

LF's facts always help me ;)

[Simmi]

wilson... OMG.. getting beatin al quassimi... with all respect... a guy who grew up driving in 90 degrees on sand!

Spin in the first stage for Wilson. Also the case for Petter.

[Buzz Lightyear]

Spin in the first stage for Wilson. Also the case for Petter.

as a said before he must have spun on every split, cause he showed no pace through out the whole stage. he was only 4s quicker than andersson, with only front wheel driver on ss2. stop making excuses for him.

[A.F.F.]

Well, the first day is done and the order is as it should be, although I thought Duval would have been nearer to Loeb. But he still has time. But if not any of the x-factors ruin this trio's rally, they are on podium at Monte.

[N.O.T]

Loeb beat the opposition like dogs without owners.....At least last year Gronholm followed closer and gave false hopesm which is something compared to what we are going to see this year.

[jparker]

Tony was only 0,5sec/km slower than Petter and GIGI on SS1 so I say you shut up boys!
Good point, but how the hell Tony manage to do that with slipping clutch?!?!?!

[N.O.T]

Great time by artru on ss2 in a mitsu evo !!! he probably knew the stage by heart !!!!

[leno]

as a said before he must have spun on every split, cause he showed no pace through out the whole stage. he was only 4s quicker than andersson, with only front wheel driver on ss2. stop making excuses for him.

Why are you soo against petter he had spun so he lost time

[consti]

Why are you soo against petter he had spun so he lost time
he was talking about wilslow not petter

[leno]

ok than i made a mistake sorry about that

[Roy]

Why are you soo against petter he had spun so he lost time

It's about Wilson. And yes, I don't know what happend to the not nominated Stobarts (Henning and Matthew). The are so slow. Less or no test? Other codriver for Wilson? No faith in icy conditions?

Duval has no safety crew for checking the road, so maybe the same for Wilson and Henning. Has Khalied one? See what the rally does when it starts by day light.
Hope Latvala can come back and Suzuki can fix the car.

[consti]

at least the second league subaru seem to be working very well

olivier burri fastest in class n

edit: second fastest, there is a mitsu driving fasater then burri

so the not so well looking car seems to be quite fast out of the box...

[Halvis]

It's about Wilson. And yes, I don't know what happend to the not nominated Stobarts (Henning and Matthew). The are so slow. Less or no test? Other codriver for Wilson? No faith in icy conditions?

Duval has no safety crew for checking the road, so maybe the same for Wilson and Henning. Has Khalied one? See what the rally does when it starts by day light.
Hope Latvala can come back and Suzuki can fix the car.

Well, Henning is always slow on tarmac - it doesn't help that he drove his new car for the first time in shakedown. No testing whatsoever.

[xavier]

"Dani really wants to win here. I knew that from the start and he’s pushing me very hard,” .

He seems to imply that Dani will not be under team order. That'd be a great new for the interest of the rally... otherwise the podium may be already decided...

[DonJippo]

Well, Henning is always slow on tarmac - it doesn't help that he drove his new car for the first time in shakedown. No testing whatsoever.

I think both Henning and Wilson Jr got no testing prior Monte.

[jparker]

:) It looks like everyone (including me) is eager to draw conclusions after just 2 SS. I guess little more patience won't hurt.

[COD]

Positive things:

Gardemeister faster than expected and Subaru fairly OK. And the private pugs are still fast, even with less known drivers.

Other than than, pretty much as expected, Latvala too empatient getting puncture, Citroens way ahead, Mikko not able to challenge them on tarmac and Henning sucking maybe even more than usual. Shame Gigi is so rusty

[Micke_VOC]

More positive:
PG faster than Garde before his Driveshaft broke...

PG before Wilson, S´Henning on SS1...

And LAST:

No STAGES cancelled yet =)

[ste898]

The stobart team need to get their act together..........no test for Henning or Matt and no weather crew for Duval!!!!!!

What sort of 3rd rate team is that!!

[miksu]

JM says with mousse he wouldn't have had to change the tyre at all.

[miksu]

Malcolm Wilson before rally(laughing): Only problem with Jari-Matti is that he wants to win every rally :D

[Tomi]

The stobart team need to get their act together..........no test for Henning or Matt and no weather crew for Duval!!!!!!

What sort of 3rd rate team is that!!

It was the same last year too, no tests for stobart guy's, what comes to gravel crew, i think it's the driver who pay their salary.

[Roy]

The stobart team need to get their act together..........no test for Henning or Matt and no weather crew for Duval!!!!!!

What sort of 3rd rate team is that!!

2nd, 2nd rate. Don't forget it is a MT. No financial support of Ford and big names like BP, Abu Dhabi or what else.

[Simmi]

We dont know the reason behind Duval's weather crew not doing the stages this evening. Radio speculated their car broke down so in that case what can they do? They aren't just not going to give him a gravel crew.

I do agree a bit of testing might have been nice but they dont have the budget of a works team and they gave their testing the the points drivers.

[AndyRAC]

I think both Henning and Wilson Jr got no testing prior Monte.

Absolutely utter madness!!! I know F1 and WRC are completely different but can you imagine turning up to the first race with no testing. Unbelievable....words fail me.

[Tomi]

Radio speculated their car broke down so in that case what can they do?

well this explaines a lot, its impossible to do result in monte without a front car.

[miksu]

Gardes co-driver sent him walking between 1st and 2nd stages to cool off, because he was so angry/frustrated of all the problems they had :) they were laughing about it on finnish tv interview. They are like wife and husband inside the car :D bit disturbing really...

[WRXedUSA]

Geez. Just call the rally early, give Sebastian his trophy and lets move on.

How's that for FIA cost saving measures?

Wake me up on Sunday.

[MrJan]

Surely Duval could have used the info from team mates gravel crews. I know it wouldn't be in the same style but surely it'd give at least an idea of the state of the stages?

[Buzz Lightyear]

Geez. Just call the rally early, give Sebastian his trophy and lets move on.

How's that for FIA cost saving measures?

Wake me up on Sunday.


sordo had headlight problems ss2.

[jonas_mcrae]

ok ok, I just got home from work and the only thing I want to do is take a look at the leader board, from everyones posts I know the podium but thats it, but apart from that, I cant find it anywhere

please please link!

EDIT: found it, LOL

thanks anyway

[ShiftingGears]

Damn! Hirvonen a minute behind after the second stage is not a good sign for the season ahead. I hope Ford are a little closer on gravel :s

[A.F.F.]

Damn! Hirvonen a minute behind after the second stage is not a good sign for the season ahead. I hope Ford are a little closer on gravel :s


It's a damn sure Ford is closer on gravel. The other thing sure is that Sordo is way behind too.

[GigiGalliNo1]

oh the rally is on.... i forgot!

[gloomyDAY]

Yawn...

[cosmicpanda]

I'm not Seb's biggest fan but I'm enjoying the rally so far. I can't believe you lot, you've had no rallying for two months and already you complain. It's Monte Carlo, did you expect Loeb to be slow?

I found it interesting following the reports of the weather conditions, how there was ice on the first stage. I can't wait to see that on TV. And it seems that it was a good drive by Sordo on SS2, without his headlights.

[Magnus]

I think this rally season may be world rallyings worst year, and biggest problem, since a long time. If Loeb keeps dominating, Subaru maintains their problems, Hirvonen can´t step up into Marcus shoes, Suzuki makes a fool out of themselves and so on...
Combine this with a growing environmental threat and more and more people and organisations talking abt banning events like rallies...
ooops... boy am I negative this morning? Guess I should get back to bed and get some more sleep.

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for Jean-Marie Cuoq pace today, as he will know most of the stages(and those of tomorrow) :bounce:

[pino]

Morning Guys, my link for splits doesn't work, any help ? :D Also at what time 1st stage of the day starts ? Thanks :up:

[Tazz]

SS3 Starts at 08:24. Cant help with splits though.

[pino]

Thanks, I will try to find that link myself :)

[Viking]

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2008&rally_id=MC

Official split time page, wery poor yesterday :mad:

[pino]

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2008&rally_id=MC

Official split time page, wery poor yesterday :mad:

I was looking for the estonian link but will try that, thanks :up:

[CABAIO E'LONA]

other split page:

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/

[Langdale Forest]

The St Pierreville stage is shorter than last year.

[Langdale Forest]

The stage has started.

[FAlonso]

I still don´t understand something. Do wrc.com provide "LIVE" splits or only this:
--> http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2008&rally_id=MC

These aren´t very useful once the stage as ended..

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Year after year.. official sites of WRC... are really a nice **** :(

I don't understand how it's possible!

[Mauri A]

Loeb fastest, Sordo +8, Hirvonen +10 and Atkinson +40 secs.

[Mauri A]

Duval +28, Petter +43!

[Mauri A]

Garde +2,20!!!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Strange.. even Al Qassimi can be faster than Garde... :s

[Viking]

Garde +2,20!!!!

No power... and PG 4min late out of service, Suzuki are doing great!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Simpatic time for PG Andersson.. ;)

[Perra71]

Thats a pretty decent time from PG I must say.

[Mirek]

Yes, P-G's time is defenitely good. Let's wait what is Garde able of when his car is working. It seems like Suzuki is not that bad :)

[Tazz]

PG 2 sec/km slower than Loeb.

[Mauri A]

]Yes, P-G's time is defenitely good. Let's wait what is Garde able of when his car is working. It seems like Suzuki is not that bad :)
Can you translate Gardes´ comments?

[N.O.T]

Yes the time by PG is somehow not that bad....but reliability is awful and bare in mind that a driver must be 100% focus on his driving and not have his mind on the car that might brake...

Also can someone tell Loeb that Gronholm is not in the rally and he should lower his pace a bit he embarasses the other crews....

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I think Suzuki isn't bad... but.. they are starting in WRC tec. now.. so.. they have a lot to learn and improve!

Let's give them some time.. results will appear for sure.

[Donney]

I agree, I would say they are not doing so bad.

[Mirek]

Mauri A: Garde said they had no power, like a road section settings, probably turbo.

[miksu]

yep, Andersson is in his first rally with wrc car and still almost as fast as galli with Focus... not that bad i would say.

[Mauri A]

[quote="'Mirek Fric [Cze"]]Mauri A: Garde said they had no power, like a road section settings, probably turbo.[/QUOTE
Thanks!

[cosmicpanda]

what was PG's time?

[Mauri A]

what was PG's time?
+ 59secs.

[Mirek]

If Broccoli's time is right, he must be mad! He was 42 seconds faster with Clio R3 than Burri with N14.

[Dingardo]

]If Broccoli's time is right, he must be mad! He was 42 seconds faster with Clio R3 than Burri with N14.

he better be careful then... at that pace, he wont want to crash.. otherwise he might end up a vegetable..

[Rajle]

Mercier is fastest with Clio also than all N4s

[Mirek]

Rajle: Broccoli (Clio R3) is 19 seconds infront of Mercier ;)

[Tomi]

otherwise he might end up a vegetable..

lol

[Scrap_Iron]

Also can someone tell Loeb that Gronholm is not in the rally and he should lower his pace a bit he embarasses the other crews....
Giving himself time to change a wheel on stage if needs be :s mokin:

[kabouter]

]If Broccoli's time is right, he must be mad! He was 42 seconds faster with Clio R3 than Burri with N14.
And Broccoli is strongest on gravel :) Nice showing from him, and a good demonstration of the potential of the Clio R3.

I'm still not sure what to make of the Suzuki performance. It's not as bad as I feared. Andersson's time on SS3 isn't bad at all. But I still think with this car they're not going to win any rallies. Almost all rally winning cars in the WRC era have been fast from the start, and weren't 2 s/km slower on their third event. But given that it's the Monte, and the leading car is a Citroën driven by Loeb, I'll suspend my judgment until the end of Mexico.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

SS 4 is running... ;)

[A.F.F.]

Good morning :wave:

It seems that in theory Latvala still have a chance to get on points.


However, in theory he have a chance to win also. ;)

[A.F.F.]

Has the splits worked today?

[kabouter]

Good morning :wave:

It seems that in theory Latvala still have a chance to get on points.


Good morning to you as well, sir :wave:

Latvala is only 2m30s behind position 8. He's able to make up about 1 s/km. He only needs 150 km to be in the points ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Has the splits worked today?

No... :(

[Viking]

Has the splits worked today?

Nope, same sh** :down:

[Daniel]

Rautenbach is doing better than what I thought he would :)

[teufel]

I also don't think that Suzuki's performance would be so bad. They had a very fast progress with the Ignis in 2002 and 2003 before they became dominant in JWRC, so I think we should be more patient with them.

[A.F.F.]

Good morning to you as well, sir :wave:

Latvala is only 2m30s behind position 8. He's able to make up about 1 s/km. He only needs 150 km to be in the points ;)


Hi Tjeerd. Long time no see :)

[kabouter]

Hi Tjeerd. Long time no see :)

I know - I should visit Rally Finland again...

Sordo beating Loeb on SS4, Loeb has read the comments here and decided to take it easy :D

[Donney]

Sordo first Loeb + 2.7

[Viking]

I guess splits are working as they are referred to at the radio. They just don’t bother giving them to us! :angryfire

[A.F.F.]

Ooooh.... Feels bad to listen Sordo. He try sound so diplomatic when everybody knows he is not entitled to win in Monte :mark:

[Mirek]

Daniel: Is it possible to drive slower in PH-Sport Xsara? ;)

[kabouter]

Duval still off the pace, 9 s behind Hirvonen. Not what he would have wanted from this rally I dare say. Does he have problems with his ice crew today as well?

[Donney]

That's life for second drivers to the 4 times champìon :(

[A.F.F.]

I guess splits are working as they are referred to at the radio. They just don’t bother giving them to us! :angryfire


yep. I guess they have a whole different split page than what wrc.com is offering to us.

[Daniel]

]Daniel: Is it possible to drive slower in PH-Sport Xsara? ;)
If it is possible I'm sure Conrad could do it :)

[Mirek]

Daniel: LoL :D

[Micke_VOC]

Why only music and not interviews from the stage on that ****ty rally radio...

[jonas_mcrae]

Hi all
well everything is going kind of what i thought it was going to happen, maybe just gigi not being as fast as I thought he would be. Bad for those no-working splits, the only place were I can see results is in the ACM website, anyone has other page??

thanks

[Mauri A]

Looks like Garde is still without power.

[A.F.F.]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=149&stage=2574&category=&group=

This is fast and reliable :up:

[PLuto]

Hi all
well everything is going kind of what i thought it was going to happen, maybe just gigi not being as fast as I thought he would be. Bad for those no-working splits, the only place were I can see results is in the ACM website, anyone has other page??

thanks

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky

[Wimanna]

Duval still off the pace, 9 s behind Hirvonen. Not what he would have wanted from this rally I dare say. Does he have problems with his ice crew today as well?

On Pitstop.tv he said he had no big expectations because he feared the stages on thursday evening. Also expected to loose some time on fridays and saturdays stages because he doens't know them... ? Didn't he ride this stages before? :confused: