Monte Carlo 2008

[A.F.F.]

I hope that Dudu can pass Atko tomorrow. Could help him a lot for the rest of the season bringing the Stobard Ford in the 3rd place. Definitely is a driver that I would like to see all season and not just in tarmac rallies. He can be fast also in gravel surfaces and WRC can't afford loosing drivers of this level. Actually is a bit inconceivable having Wilson and Al Qassimy as WRC regulars and Dudu as a tarmac rally entry....!


When it comes to green, Al Qassimy is way ahead Dudu ;)

[jonkka]

Actually is a bit inconceivable having Wilson and Al Qassimy as WRC regulars and Dudu as a tarmac rally entry....!

Money talks

[pino]

There is but not for all of us :(

:(

[A.F.F.]

And Garde is not able to pass Henning :down:

[pino]

And Garde is not able to pass Henning :down:

The car mate...the car :s

[Brother John]

There is but not for all of us :(

What do you mean DJ?

[Koppomsbo]

The car mate...the car :s

is pg´s suzuki diffrent then since he is beating henning on all stages?

[Woodeye]

Hi ya all rally pervs! :D

Been following the rally pretty much all the time but not forced myself to write anything to forum since i'm too lazy.

Anyway battle of the 3rd place seem to be quite tence, but again I'm a bit gutted by the fact that it seems that there's not going to be any battle for the 1st place in any of the tarmac rallys this year. Seb is just too good at the moment. I was hoping that Mikko could throw somekind of a challence, but not a chance I see. And Stobart Ford is just too slow, as we can see from Duval's pace.

[A.F.F.]

"No real dramas. We drove easy, increased speed sometimes."-Matthew Wilson

:laugh:

I dunno would I act any different if I was a team boss.

"Now remember to increase your speed sometimes Matthew!"

[kleisj]

When it comes to green, Al Qassimy is way ahead Dudu ;)
Yes ofcourse I agree is like this. But that doesn't change the fact that is really bad having those guys who fight for position no8 to no15 as regulars and not having a driver who can fight for the top 3 positions.

Moneywise I know is the other way around but WRC continuing to loose status and orientation exposure this way.

[kleisj]

"No real dramas. We drove easy, increased speed sometimes."-Matthew Wilson

:laugh:

I dunno would I act any different if I was a team boss.

"Now remember to increase your speed sometimes Matthew!"

My point exactly

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[spudrsca]

Hi ya all rally pervs! :D

Been following the rally pretty much all the time but not forced myself to write anything to forum since i'm too lazy.

Anyway battle of the 3rd place seem to be quite tence, but again I'm a bit gutted by the fact that it seems that there's not going to be any battle for the 1st place in any of the tarmac rallys this year. Seb is just too good at the moment. I was hoping that Mikko could throw somekind of a challence, but not a chance I see. And Stobart Ford is just too slow, as we can see from Duval's pace.


I don't think the Stobart Ford is too slow, Duval has a new-codriver that is in the deal with Vergallen that has paid his drive and he's not as good as Smeets or Pivato.
I also think that Ford is the car that was wearing the tires the less and with the Pirelli of this year it's maybe not the best as you can see that the Subaru are on the pace.

[Lousada]

I don't think the Stobart Ford is too slow, Duval has a new-codriver that is in the deal with Vergallen that has paid his drive and he's not as good as Smeets or Pivato.
I also think that Ford is the car that was wearing the tires the less and with the Pirelli of this year it's maybe not the best as you can see that the Subaru are on the pace.

+ Duval has hardly driven the past years, and the Focus is basicly a new car for him. All in all I think he's doing a decent job keeping everything together.

[Roy]

+ Duval has hardly driven the past years, and the Focus is basicly a new car for him. All in all I think he's doing a decent job keeping everything together.

That is my thought either.
And Atkinson is very good here. Even with a Subaru 2007. Good work!

[pettersolberg29]

I cannot believe what I'm hearing about Petter.
He is by far the nicest and most fun driver in the WRC (not as cocky as Gigi!), and without him the stages would be half as full as currently because Solberg's Army is massive. No-one would even have heard of WRC if it weren't for Petter and the Subaru who have excellently carried on the legend that the late Colin McRae (RIP) started, as no British drivers have a hope and rally is stuggling with the 'no-charatcers' of Loeb and Hirvonen.
Also, he has shown over the last 5 years that he is a very talented driver - correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't he beaten his team-mate in every season at Subaru, won the title and come second a couple of times? Don't get me wrong, Atkinson will be a class act, but Petter has always had the edge over him, and I'd put a million quid on Petter finishing above Chris by the end of the 2008 season.
Finally, I'm not sure about this, but I think that Solberg's best ever finish on Monte Carlo is 6th, definately in the last few years, so to beat that position in an old car and with more tarmac specialists (i.e. Duval) that is quite good in my opinion.

[DonJippo]

What do you mean DJ?

Read your PM.

[miksu]

It will probably rain during the night, it can be water or snow, so it will be interesting in the morning...turin can bring some surprises

[Woodeye]

I don't think the Stobart Ford is too slow, Duval has a new-codriver that is in the deal with Vergallen that has paid his drive and he's not as good as Smeets or Pivato.
I also think that Ford is the car that was wearing the tires the less and with the Pirelli of this year it's maybe not the best as you can see that the Subaru are on the pace.

Ok, let me rephrase what I meant. Stobart is not quick enough so Duval could challenge Loeb. If anyone wants to be able to challenge Seb the machinery needs to be best available. And unfortunately Stobard is not the best possible.

[Koppomsbo]

It will probably rain during the night, it can be water or snow, so it will be interesting in the morning...turin can bring some surprises

well, looks like everything can happend tomorrow then :) Hope for anotherday of good rally and that pg can catch Cuoq :up: :

[jonas_mcrae]

Ok, let me rephrase what I meant. Stobart is not quick enough so Duval could challenge Loeb. If anyone wants to be able to challenge Seb the machinery needs to be best available. And unfortunately Stobard is not the best possible.

Yeah but no way Duval is jumping in the second seat either at ford or citroen(although there he wouldnt be ALLOWED to challenge Loeb! but thats an other story). So I think right now Stobart is the best "possible". what else is he going to drive? a whale? a skoda? a non Citroen sport Xsara? a Subaru? :s So yes I think Stobart is the best he can get right now, unless a Aava like deal or something like that...

[Brother John]

Read your PM.

I did DJ today afther the rally, :( take care.

[Mauri A]

I cannot believe what I'm hearing about Petter.
He is by far the nicest and most fun driver in the WRC (not as cocky as Gigi!), and without him the stages would be half as full as currently because Solberg's Army is massive. No-one would even have heard of WRC if it weren't for Petter and the Subaru who have excellently carried on the legend that the late Colin McRae (RIP) started, as no British drivers have a hope and rally is stuggling with the 'no-charatcers' of Loeb and Hirvonen.
Also, he has shown over the last 5 years that he is a very talented driver - correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't he beaten his team-mate in every season at Subaru, won the title and come second a couple of times? Don't get me wrong, Atkinson will be a class act, but Petter has always had the edge over him, and I'd put a million quid on Petter finishing above Chris by the end of the 2008 season.
Finally, I'm not sure about this, but I think that Solberg's best ever finish on Monte Carlo is 6th, definately in the last few years, so to beat that position in an old car and with more tarmac specialists (i.e. Duval) that is quite good in my opinion.
Agreed, but with the exemption of Hirvonen classified as no-character.

[Finni]

Ok, let me rephrase what I meant. Stobart is not quick enough so Duval could challenge Loeb. If anyone wants to be able to challenge Seb the machinery needs to be best available. And unfortunately Stobard is not the best possible.

When Stobart Ford became considerably slower than works Ford? If Latvala is any indication the difference is practically non-existent. Latvala actually set very good stage times last in Catalunya and Corcica - near to Hirvonen and Grönholm in many stages.

It's quite obvious that Ford overally is not as fast as C4 on tarmac.

[pettersolberg29]

Agreed, but with the exemption of Hirvonen classified as no-character.


OK he has a character, but it's not the same as Petter, Marcus or Galli IMO.

I do like him though!

[Viking]

Last year Atko won stage St Bonnet 2 with the time 12:32,4,
this year he did it in 12:23.9! okey stage may have been 500m shorter this year but where are those extremely slow tyres? :laugh:

[Tom206wrc]

well, looks like everything can happend tomorrow then :) Hope for anotherday of good rally and that pg can catch Cuoq :up: :



I hope Cuoq can catch Galli ans stay in front of PG :p :

[ste898]

I have read this thread and cannot undertand the 'crap' that is being thrown at Suzuki
Instead of welcoming them to the WRC (it needs all the help it can) people verbally abuse them...
Well I for one think they are doing a great job in a very steep learning curve

[Mauri A]

A bit OT, but,
I´ve been in rallying world since late 50s, and have had the priviledge to know all the best rallydrivers till late 70s. Those boys were the real CHARACTERS. They had the ability to enjoy the life, make unbelievable tricks to fellow competitors and they were really a society of sportsmen.

Of course I know that nowadays money talks, practising is limited to a mininimum and in most cases you have to pay for your seat.

The cost of rallying has gone far, far away!

[Viking]

correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't he beaten his team-mate in every season at Subaru, won the title and come second a couple of times?

Small correction he has beaten everyone from 2002 Makinen,Hirvonen and Atkinson. In 2001 Burns was World champ.

[pettersolberg29]

Small correction he has beaten everyone from 2002 Makinen,Hirvonen and Atkinson. In 2001 Burns was World champ.


Of course - thanks for the correction!

[Brother John]

Of course - thanks for the correction!

Don´t look back, he has to proof it this year or it´s over for him. Thats my opinion about Petter. :s mokin:

[Buzz Lightyear]

i think sordo could catch wilson on sunday! :)

11. M. Wilson/S.Martin (Ford Focus) + 11 min 43,6 s
12. D. Sordo/M. Martí (Citroën C4) + 20 min 45,1 s

[Buzz Lightyear]

Don´t look back, he has to proof it this year or it´s over for him. that could actually be quite true.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Ok, let me rephrase what I meant. Stobart is not quick enough so Duval could challenge Loeb. If anyone wants to be able to challenge Seb the machinery needs to be best available. And unfortunately Stobard is not the best possible.

Well Stobart Focus 07 is definetly faster than the Kronos Xsara last year,and he did challenge Loeb at Germany

[Viking]

Don´t look back, he has to proof it this year or it´s over for him. Thats my opinion about Petter. :s mokin:

You have to know the past to see the future, hehe.
It was the same posts here last year at MC when Atko won a stage, come end of season and Petter was (is) way in front.

[Tomi]

Its good that rally is not a beauty contest, hopefully Atkinsson gets all the possible support from his team, he deserves it.

[Finni]

Its good that rally is not a beauty contest, hopefully Atkinsson gets all the possible support from his team, he deserves it.

Lol

[Brother John]

You have to know the past to see the future, hehe.
It was the same posts here last year at MC when Atko won a stage, come end of season and Petter was (is) way in front.

I know the past, if i look back i see my first woman. :eek: :D

[Viking]

Suzuki retires Gardemeister’s SX4 WRC :down:

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=187&desc=Suzuki%20retires%20Gardemeister’s%20SX4%20WRC

[A.F.F.]

I cannot believe what I'm hearing about Petter.
He is by far the nicest and most fun driver in the WRC (not as cocky as Gigi!)

:eek:

How do you base that statement? Gigi being cocky ?

[HaCo]

Is that "cocky" like in Cuoq or like in Cock? :D :D :D

[Tom206wrc]

I have read this thread and cannot undertand the 'crap' that is being thrown at Suzuki
Instead of welcoming them to the WRC (it needs all the help it can) people verbally abuse them...
Well I for one think they are doing a great job in a very steep learning curve



Well, at least they(the Suzukis)are more crap than the french WRC car, aren't they ??? :p :

[Woodeye]

When Stobart Ford became considerably slower than works Ford? If Latvala is any indication the difference is practically non-existent. Latvala actually set very good stage times last in Catalunya and Corcica - near to Hirvonen and Grönholm in many stages.

It's quite obvious that Ford overally is not as fast as C4 on tarmac.

The point of my original post was that it seem that we are going to have load of dull tarmac races when it comes to the fight of the number 1 spot. I was hoping that either Mikko or Duval could challenge Loeb in Monte. Well I can see now that I was clearly wrong. I really hope that someones steps up and challenges Seb in tarmac also, otherwise this season is going to be really awkward to follow.

[ste898]

Well, at least they(the Suzukis)are more crap than the french WRC car, aren't they ??? :p :

So explain to me what that crap you posted is about?

I think you should grow up!!!!!

[urabus-denoS2000]

Grow up,what did you expect from Suzuki?Were you expecting them to fight with Ford or Subaru???I think Suzuki is doing quite well so far.
Lets not forget that it is only their 3rd rally and the 1st real rally with 2 cars.
And its their first attempt ever to compete in the WRC with a top class car!!!

[SubaruNorway]

Although the results are bad i like the amount of clips uploaded http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=31 ... ko's%20day (http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=310&featureid=500&desc=Australia%20day%20-%20Atko's%20day)

[pettersolberg29]

:eek:

How do you base that statement? Gigi being cocky ?

I just mean that he thinks he's the best, and in his interview after SS14 he said he wants to be doing better, and seemed to say that his fans weren't as important as a result.
I may be wrong but that's the impression I get of Gigi.

[A.F.F.]

I just mean that he thinks he's the best, and in his interview after SS14 he said he wants to be doing better, and seemed to say that his fans weren't as important as a result.
I may be wrong but that's the impression I get of Gigi.


That's alright. If that's the impression you get, fine.

I'm just curious did you get that impression by one particular interview during the rally, after a stage?


The impression I've gotten of Gigi is that he loves driving rally, he really care about his fans, he does charity, respect the other drivers and never badmouth anyone. :)

Pretty much like Petter.

[N.O.T]

respect the other drivers a

and co-drivers :D

[A.F.F.]

and co-drivers :D

He loves the codrivers but hate their helmets. ;)

[giangino]

First photos rallye Montecarlo by avetowrc... http://www.avetowrc.com/Index/Index2.htm

[ern]

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=hgyZHYRGpTY

[KKS]

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=hgyZHYRGpTY

stupid policeman and very very lucky

[consti]

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=hgyZHYRGpTY


more than crazy! lucky gendarm!

[J4MIE]

...and I get asked why I have no respect for them... :s

[BeerBro]

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=hgyZHYRGpTY

what was he thinking?! man... too close

[Fischer]

You don't know how hard I laughed after seeing that man almost get hit.

[leno]

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=hgyZHYRGpTY

i bet he **** in his pants :arrows:

[Fiorio]

off topic: how can download the videos of wrc.com?

[gloomyDAY]

I find tarmac rallies to be on the tame side (except Ireland), but I've been reading through this thread and a lot of people are being pessimistic.

It's the first rally of the season! Did we not learn our lesson from last year that conditions, positions, and results change from one rally to another? Last year was exciting, even though I don't like Germany or Spain, and I'm looking forward to a great season.

[bennizw]

Bloody hell! Some people really don't think and have the respect do they...

[WRXedUSA]

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=hgyZHYRGpTY

The jokes are just percolating in my mind!

[Barry_]

can someone please explain why atko has a racing net between him and stephane

[A.F.F.]

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=hgyZHYRGpTY

Should have it been any other driver than Loeb.... ;)

Jokes aside, does this marshall-man even realize how close it was?? :eek:

[GigiGalliNo1]

v. close!

[ST205GT4]

The guy is a fool. He's lucky to be alive.

[Glee]

can someone please explain why atko has a racing net between him and stephane

It is for safety, I think. To prevent them knocking into each other when he crashes.

I think that somebody in FIA did speak of that it was something that they wanted to be mandatory.

[User]

I don't really see how it can help. And it screws up onboard vid's.

[jparker]

can someone please explain why atko has a racing net between him and stephane

I think the only car that needs such a net is Gigi's :p :


It is for safety, I think. To prevent them knocking into each other when he crashes.

I can't imagine how that could happen. It must be something else.

[leno]

can someone please explain why atko has a racing net between him and stephane

It is not only chris car, i dont know why they use it

[pino]

Morning Guys, at what time 1st stage starts ? :D

[wrc_flipper]

Morning Guys, at what time 1st stage starts ? :D

SS15 - 9.50
SS16 - 11.08
SS17 - 11:51
SS18 - !3:09
SS19 - 15:10

All GMT +1

[White Sauron]

Morning Guys, at what time 1st stage starts ? :D

Morning! Ten minutes till ten.

[luca]

It is not only chris car, i dont know why they use it

everything explained
http://paddocktalk.com/news/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=75698&newlang=&topic=26&catid=26

[pino]

Thanks Guys :up:

[Brother John]

Good morning guys. :cool:

[KKS]

no splits for Turini :(

[Brother John]

I don´t find the estonian split times site, a link please! ;)

[FAlonso]

http://zone.ee/wrcmasters/2008/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=15&results=1

But still it's not working for this stage..

[pino]

http://zone.ee/wrcmasters/2008/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=15&results=1&jwrc=

but it doesn't work at the moment :(

[Brother John]

http://zone.ee/wrcmasters/2008/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=15&results=1&jwrc=

but it doesn't work at the moment :(

Oke thanks, the same problem here.

[KKS]

Duval flying

[KKS]

splits back :)

[MikeD]

Yes, excellent time Duval. Now only 8 sec up to Atkinson.

[DonJippo]

Why is Sordo 3rd on the road while he was 12th after yesterday?

[jonkka]

Why was Sordo 3rd on the road?

[pino]

Gigi's concentrated in bringing the car home :D

[jonkka]

Heh, cheers DJ!

[Woodeye]

Andersson in troubles?

[N.O.T]

hmmmmm Hirvonen might be in trouble with suck pace by duval......

[MikeD]

...and why is Couq missing from all timings?

[DonJippo]

Heh, cheers DJ!

Cheers jonkka ;)

[Wim_Impreza]

Andersson in troubles?

He is there, same time as Galli. ;)

[Mauri A]

...and why is Couq missing from all timings?
No GPS in his car.

[jonkka]

Cheers jonkka ;)

Both asked the same question exactly the same time... :)

[DonJippo]

hmmmmm Hirvonen might be in trouble with suck pace by duval......

Will not...they changed engine settings for Mikko straight after Sordo retired yesterday to save the engine for Sweden...and Wilson Sr will not allow Duval to pass Mikko.

[miksu]

some interesting splits for some between 4th and 5th :) like loeb, andersson and h solberg

[KKS]

No GPS in his car.
But Becks have Cuoq split times. I think wrc.com shows only wrc manufactures cars

[N.O.T]

some interesting splits for some between 4th and 5th :) like loeb, andersson and h solberg

most likely anderssons and solbergs 4th split is wrong

[GigiGalliNo1]

I think the only car that needs such a net is Gigi's :p :



hahahaha

[jonkka]

can someone please explain why atko has a racing net between him and stephane

http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2008/January/250108-01.html

Fifth paragraph from the bottom:

The safety nets, still under development with the teams, will be placed along the centre-line of the car, between the driver and co driver, in order to limit the excursion of the occupants, and prevent them impacting each other during a violent impact or roll.

[Roy]

Why was Sordo 3rd on the road?

All cars start in the same order they do yesterday. FIA has ruled only 3 days/legs. Not 4 like Monte want to do.

[Wim_Impreza]

Burri takes the Group N lead.

[leno]

What do you predict? who will be third ATKO or DUDU

[DonJippo]

All cars start in the same order they do yesterday. FIA has ruled only 3 days/legs. Not 4 like Monte want to do.

I thought that but Sordo was 2nd after leg 2 not third?

[Wim_Impreza]

I think Atko, Duval must stay on the road.

[HaCo]

They may have it both, but i think DUDU will make it...

In N4 there is a new leader! Burri took back the lead in his brand new N14 with 18secs, yesterday Artru was 2.7 secs in front of Burri. Could the first rally of the Subaru N14 be a victory? :)

[Brother John]

What do you predict? who will be third ATKO or DUDU

I think that Prevot has slow down Atko! If Dudu don´t make a mistake he take third place.

[Roy]

I thought that but Sordo was 2nd after leg 2 not third?

I don't watch and read good. :arrows: I don't know.

[ProRally]

They may have it both, but i think DUDU will make it...

In N4 there is a new leader! Burri took back the lead in his brand new N14 with 18secs, yesterday Artru was 2.7 secs in front of Burri. Could the first rally of the Subaru N14 be a victory? :)

No as yesterday Nasser Al Athiya won MERC (Middle East) round in Qatar with his brand new 2008 Impreza N14

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Loeb in race...

[Corny]

It's clear to see Duval knows these stages.. C'mon Duval, catch Atko

[CABAIO E'LONA]

No as yesterday Nasser Al Athiya won MERC (Middle East) round in Qatar with his brand new 2008 Impreza N14

good aport...

[N.O.T]

No splits for mikko....

[KKS]

no first split for Miko....

[MikeD]

Argggg They play way too much music on WRR!

[N.O.T]

Mikko is ok and faster than Loeb ion second split

[N.O.T]

Duval and atko same 1st split....

[leno]

Atko and Dudu same time on first split

[A.F.F.]

I hope Duval pass Atkinson. Nothing against either of the guys, it just would do so good to my pickems :D

[Viking]

Good morning! Atko vs Duval fight will be interesting, and Henning vs Wilson :D

[leno]

Atko lose 1 second against dudu, it is going to be nice fight. and petter woke up best time on first split

[MikeD]

2.3 for Duval. Now it's getting close!

[leno]

C mon atko stop being 4th all the time

[MikeD]

4 sec ... YEAH :D A podium coming up for Duval!!!

[N.O.T]

Duval 4 seconds faster than Atko.....he is getting dangerously close.....

[leno]

dudu get 4 sec damn :( i hope atko will win this fight like last year with miko on last stage

[jonkka]

All cars start in the same order they do yesterday. FIA has ruled only 3 days/legs. Not 4 like Monte want to do.

Nitpickety if you ask me.

[pino]

Turini will decide the podium...can't wait :D

[ST205GT4]

Go Atko!

[A.F.F.]

Go Duval !!

[pino]

Go Gigi :D

[ST205GT4]

Go Atko - No returns!

[leno]

Go Atko! :up:

[Wim_Impreza]

Go Duval, please don't go off road.

[jonkka]

Voi tätä toivomisen määrää

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Go Panicco! :)

[pino]

Voi tätä toivomisen määrää

In english ? ;)

[pettersolberg29]

That's alright. If that's the impression you get, fine.

I'm just curious did you get that impression by one particular interview during the rally, after a stage?


The impression I've gotten of Gigi is that he loves driving rally, he really care about his fans, he does charity, respect the other drivers and never badmouth anyone. :)

Pretty much like Petter.

Well yeh I got the impression from his interviews over this weekend, but I suppose from what I've seen when he stood on his car one could assume he was either self-obsessed or loves his fans. I may have taken the wrong one.

[Viking]

Well at least it will be wery close in manu championship after this rally, and maybe Stobart in front off Ford :D

[DonJippo]

Voi tätä toivomisen määrää

Mitäs jonkka toivoo :D

[Mauri A]

Go Frau and Sau!!

[jonkka]

In english ? ;)

It's not translatable, an idiom from Finnish politician.

[jonkka]

Mitäs jonkka toivoo :D

Loeb to run out of petrol?

[leno]

Well at least it will be wery close in manu championship after this rally, and maybe Stobart in front off Ford :D

if subies finish 3rd and 5th they will leading in manufacturer rang :D

[ST205GT4]

In english ? ;)

Something like "You are hoping for a lot" would be my guess after a bad online finnish to english translator I found.

[consti]

Go Frau and Sau!!
that's "go woman and sod"

what did you mean?

[ST205GT4]

Mitäs jonkka toivoo :D

And here we have "What who's hope?"

[DonJippo]

Something like "You are hoping for a lot" would be my guess after a bad online finnish to english translator I found.

:up: btw what translator you used?

[Woodeye]

Something like "You are hoping for a lot" would be my guess after a bad online finnish to english translator I found.

"Oh, the amount of this wishing" could be close.

Has Matt Wilson had some problems during this rally? The guy is 12 minutes behind the leader so I really hope he has had some problems. Otherwise it's just sad.

[A.F.F.]

Well yeh I got the impression from his interviews over this weekend, but I suppose from what I've seen when he stood on his car one could assume he was either self-obsessed or loves his fans. I may have taken the wrong one.

Ok :)

I say follow Gigi's actions a little bit more and you may change you impression. He truly is one of the nicest out there.

[ST205GT4]

http://www.translation-guide.com/free_online_translators.php?from=Finnish&to=English

[N.O.T]

Loeb opn stage

[A.F.F.]

Loeb to run out of petrol?

Loeb is so lucky that should he ran out of petrol, he would do so in downhill part of stage and still put on the best time :s

[N.O.T]

Loeb is so lucky that should he ran out of petrol, he would do so in downhill part of stage and still put on the best time :s


I wouldn't be surprised given the sick dogs chasing him....

[malscar]

Loeb is so lucky that should he ran out of petrol, he would do so in downhill part of stage and still put on the best time :s

And that there would be a petrol can found on the side of the road at stage end.

[A.F.F.]

I wouldn't be surprised given the sick dogs chasing him....



Lay of naming the drivers for once and act like a rally fan.

[Mauri A]

that's "go woman and sod"

what did you mean?
Yeas I know and it was my 777th post. Nothing else, but it looked funny!

[jonkka]

And that there would be a petrol can found on the side of the road at stage end.

Even better as that would lead to disqualification... :)

[jonkka]

Which leads my thoughts to guys around Latvala's car in first night. I wonder why organisers did not do anything, it's led to DQ before...

[ProRally]

Burri lost time in previous stage Artru again leading group N...
Anybody know why Burri lost 2+ min. ?

[leno]

yeeeeeeeeees dudu is slower at 1st split

[leno]

Atko is flying

[Mauri A]

Lay of naming the drivers for once and act like a rally fan.
Were it you who once told me to ignore his stupid posts?

[HaCo]

Ather SS16 we have a new leader again in N4: Artru took it back, Burri lost over a minute!

[pino]

It's going to be very close between Atko and Duval...

[A.F.F.]

Were it you who once told me to ignore his stupid posts?


It was before it came personal.

[ST205GT4]

Guys where are you getting the splits? wrc.com is pretty flakey here in Perth.

[leno]

http://zone.ee/wrcmasters/2008/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=17&results=

[MikeD]

Dammit!

Well, well done Atkinson.

[HaCo]

Guys where are you getting the splits? wrc.com is pretty flakey here in Perth.

http://zone.ee/wrcmasters/2008/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=17&results=1&jwrc=

[Corny]

No Sordo on finish of the stage?

[ST205GT4]

Damn..thaks leno. For some reason I'd convinced myself that site had gone awol. What a fool!

[leno]

omg duval speed up a little

[DonJippo]

Duval fighting back on split 4 !

[N.O.T]

It was before it came personal.

are you related to any of the drivers ? if yes i apologise. I never do personal comments.....

splits here

http://zone.ee/wrcmasters/2008/analyzer.php?rally=1&stage=17&results=1&jwrc=

[bt52b]

C There water falling out of the sky
C Its wet Becs
C Julian how would you describe it?
J Its rain Colin...

[ST205GT4]

Jesus this is close

[leno]

Jesus this is close
too close

[Corny]

-0.5 for Duval.. Going to be very, very hard for him

[ST205GT4]

Woah!!! 0.5 of a sec

This is going down to the wire.

[MikeD]

Wow - Duval ends up being 0.5 sec faster than Atkinson, but can he pick up 3.5 over the final two short stages?

[N.O.T]

What a come back from duval faster by 0.5 ec...3.5 the difference now. this could be well decided at the sss like last year.

[A.F.F.]

I'm actually pretty glad I chose satan and I have MTV MAX now. The last stage live is going to be a thrill if this situation maintains between Atkinson and Duval :)

[leno]

What is wrong with atko he is pushing on start and than take it easy??

[bt52b]

Next stage SS18 is 6.25km long

[ST205GT4]

Perhaps the Sube works well with it's tyres early in the stage and then goes off.

If you look at Petter's time he suffered the same fate. Quick at the beginning before going off the boil.

[Woodeye]

If Mikko loses 14 secs to Atko on the next 2 stages also Atko will pass him.

[leno]

What if dudu and atko have same time at the end of the rally is possible to have 2 3rd places?

[ST205GT4]

Mikko might be cruising too much?

I think the Ford is a better package so it can't be that Chris is quicker.

[leno]

If Mikko loses 14 secs to Atko on the next 2 stages also Atko will pass him.

i dont believe it can happen

[A.F.F.]

Mikko might be cruising too much?

Nah, he's got it under control.

[bt52b]

Is the Monte Subaru an S12b, S12c, S12?

Anyone know what the new parts on its are?

[Brother John]

Perhaps the Sube works well with it's tyres early in the stage and then goes off.

If you look at Petter's time he suffered the same fate. Quick at the beginning before going off the boil.

Duval had a bad start and have the balls to go fast down hill! That´s all! :s mokin:

[consti]

If Mikko loses 14 secs to Atko on the next 2 stages also Atko will pass him.
won't happen as the last stage is only the sss in monaco!

[Viking]

If Mikko loses 14 secs to Atko on the next 2 stages also Atko will pass him.

Ehhh 25 secs isnt it?

[pino]

Sorry Guys but I hope Chris keeps 3rd pos :D

[WRCfan]

Mikko knows Chris is behind and won't be worrying about chasing so all his attention will be on the guy behind and driving to get to the finish...

[Woodeye]

Ehhh 25 secs isnt it?

I meant 14 secs + 14 secs. But I didn't remember that the last one was SSS... :)

[Karbonyl]

Boys, will the there be live coverage of the last SS available also on internet? :)

[Viking]

I meant 14 secs + 14 secs. But I didn't remember that the last one was SSS... :)

Okey, next one is also just 6,25 km.

[consti]

five different manufacturers in the points (4 getting points) isn't this the biggest surprise at the monte this year?

incredible didn't see such a mixed field in quite a long time! would be great if kopecky would have started and brought the skoda into the top-eight!

[leno]

Sorry Guys but I hope Chris keeps 3rd pos :D

me to :up: he deserves podium

[spudrsca]

I like this quote of Atkinson.

Francois is very quick on this stage, especially on the downhill section. He must be as brave, or as stupid, as I am”

[ST205GT4]

Here we go. Can Duval take 3.5 secs in 6.25kms?

[MikeD]

yeeeees Duval 2.6 faster on split 1

[ST205GT4]

Gah....perhaps he can!

[sp0+]

OMG Duval!!!!

[leno]

Here we go. Can Duval take 3.5 secs in 6.25kms?

if duval pass atko, atko will pass him on sss

[jonkka]

What if dudu and atko have same time at the end of the rally is possible to have 2 3rd places?

No, there is tiebreaker rule for that (faster one on SS1 takes the top spot).

[ST205GT4]

Jesus....the last stage is another nail biter. Two years in a row for Atko.

[jonkka]

1.1 secs difference... Last year Atko was 0.9s faster than Mikko on SSS so it's all there to play for...

[MikeD]

Duval ends 2,4 faster. So can he kick Aussie ass in Monte?

I hope so!

[MartijnS]

1.1 sec to take at the SS..difficult.

[sp0+]

Fantastic...Only 1.1 the difference now...It will surely be close.......

[Mauri A]

AFF, happy with the MTV+ ?

[leno]

MikeD you support wrong guy ;) Atko must stay 3rd :D

[DonJippo]

I'm actually pretty glad I chose satan and I have MTV MAX now. The last stage live is going to be a thrill if this situation maintains between Atkinson and Duval :)

:up: and now it's just 1,1 sec between them :D

[ST205GT4]

Hope Atko gets 3rd now. He's done well against a tarmac specialist like Duval.

[Corny]

will that last stage be driven on snow tyres again?

[N.O.T]

Once again Atko will fight for his place at the sss !!! Last year Hirvonen couldn't touch him....lets see how duval will do....is the sss exactly the same as last year ??? if it is then Atko has another advatage.

[Kamikaze]

Boys, will the there be live coverage of the last SS available also on internet? :)

German n-tv will broadcast live !

[morgan86]

is there a live stream from the sss i Monaco on the net?'

[Mauri A]

At this stage I´d like to thank our Czech friends for an extraordinary service.
I hope that you can manage to get get the split system because then you had the number 1 site in WRC!

[pino]

Hope Atko gets 3rd now. He's done well against a tarmac specialist like Duval.

I agree :up: Go Chris !!!

[pino]

German n-tv will broadcast live !

I've got that channel, what time starts ? :D

[consti]

I've got that channel, what time starts ? :D

15:05 or at least i think so, there wil be a review and as the sss starts at 15:10 it's very close for them to get to the live coverage

and it's great now you can see how our german tv treats wrc ;)

[Brother John]

My money is on Duval! :p : :cool: :s mokin: If I have to lose!, I wait still for money from A.F.F. :D

[pino]

15:05 or at least i think so, there wil be a review and as the sss starts at 15:10 it's very close for them to get to the live coverage

and it's great now you can see how our german tv treats wrc ;)

I watch a lot of german tv so I don't need that ;)

[Slipzen]

is there a live stream from the sss i Monaco on the net?'

wrc.com :)

[dimviii]

Αrtru is going to be finally the winner in N4 :s mokin:

[jonas_mcrae]

wrc.com :)

no way! is this true?

[Slipzen]

no way! is this true?

Well, at least according to World Rally Radio the SSS will be streamed on WRC.com starting at 15.00.

Probably the site will go down at latest 15.02 .....

[John V]

At this stage I´d like to thank our Czech friends for an extraordinary service.
I hope that you can manage to get get the split system because then you had the number 1 site in WRC!
Thanx a lot for compliment, but if we try to implement splits, we'll be in the same position like Estonian guys = depending on WRC.com splits again. It should be better do it it with own way and technically we already have solution (u can see it on last year Barum Rally Zlin), but think still we have little bit less budget compare to WRC.com to do it directly on WRC events ;)

[KKS]

http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=191&desc=Watch%20the%20Superspecial%20LIVE%20on%20wrc. com

[Koppomsbo]

Its a suprise for me that both atko and dudu is still in.. now it going to me intresting :D

[Corny]

Say what you want about Duval, but he is making this rally interesting :p

[GigiGalliNo1]

i betcha there wont be sound!

[dimviii]

@Corny +10000000000

[Larry_Japan]

Well, at least according to World Rally Radio the SSS will be streamed on WRC.com starting at 15.00.

Probably the site will go down at latest 15.02 .....

That's a little harsh... considering how much onboards, interviews, footage etc they've put on it this weekend, IMHO it's a 1,000,000% improvement on last year... and the online stream will probably rely more on the French host broadcaster getting the coverage right...

[ShiftingGears]

How many minutes until the start of the stage?

[jonkka]

That's a little harsh... considering how much onboards, interviews, footage etc they've put on it this weekend, IMHO it's a 1,000,000% improvement on last year... and the online stream will probably rely more on the French host broadcaster getting the coverage right...

And the best part of the video coverage is that it's good quality (albeit very small size) unlike youtubish quality of the most streams in the net.

[Slipzen]

That's a little harsh... considering how much onboards, interviews, footage etc they've put on it this weekend, IMHO it's a 1,000,000% improvement on last year... and the online stream will probably rely more on the French host broadcaster getting the coverage right...
I agree. It was a little harsh. wrc.com has really improved so far this year. I certainly hope they will continue their improvements. Streaming the SSS will definately be an activity in the right direction.

[John V]

I've got that channel, what time starts ? :D

I checked the teletext, N-TV broadcasting from Monte starts at 15:04

[KKS]

SSS started? Loeb and Sordo are finished

[Juha]

Sordo 8 seconds slower according to the Estonian site.

Go Duval. :D

[Simmi]

Well if it has started it isnt on anywhere. TV nor internet.

[Xsara Fan]

Zero-car has started. Take a look at wrc.com!

[Simmi]

Well if it has started it isnt on anywhere. TV nor internet.

Ok now it has appeared on wrc.com
Safety car on stage

[ST205GT4]

Come on Chris!