[WRC] Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo 2025

[Morte66]

Ogier's super soft looked quite well-worn at the end of that stage. I wonder what Fourmaux's look like.

[Eli]

Monte-Carlo delivering as (almost) always. Can we please have more rallies like this ( in mixed conditions) please??

[Rallyper]

who´s punching (?) the times?? :(:(

[EstWRC]

Ogier's super soft looked quite well-worn at the end of that stage. I wonder what Fourmaux's look like.

Yeah noticed the same

[KKS]

Timing not working properly...
As always when firstrunner crash

[KKS]

Ott screwed with that tyre choice…5th best case scenario…
It shouldnt be so bad with 2ss 2 snow. Again Ott didnt get a confidence and drive slow

[EstWRC]

It shouldnt be so bad with 2ss 2 snow. Again Ott didnt get a confidence and drive slow

yeah agreed but i think the loss wouldnt have been so big if he had also all super softs

[KKS]

Solberg faster than Tanak :/

[KKS]

https://twitter.com/FakeHinkelstein/status/1883431356572823838?t=HhmwJwXXjNLJfKoSWTpC1A&s=19

3 hours left to melt it down

[archie106]

A lot of the snow/ice/slush will melt, but 4 super soft tyres would be a pretty aggressive choice I think

[Rallyest]

Tänak dropped the ball hard, getting piped by Solberg even

[KKS]

https://twitter.com/FakeHinkelstein/status/1883442486162645267?t=WOE3qs--jpn8cWXS_ibViw&s=19

On open space ice/snow melted. Now question what will be on a shadow

[ictus]

https://twitter.com/FakeHinkelstein/status/1883442486162645267?t=WOE3qs--jpn8cWXS_ibViw&s=19

On open space ice/snow melted. Now question what will be on a shadow

You literally have the answer to that on that photo....

[doubled1978]

I think Ogier will do enough to hang on. Looking at those pictures, it’ll be a big ask for Fourmaux to drag over 20s out of him there with the ice and slush around.

[deephouse]

I think Ogier will do enough to hang on. Looking at those pictures, it’ll be a big ask for Fourmaux to drag over 20s out of him there with the ice and slush around.

Never say never. Ogier last year did prove he is mistake prone if putting on pressure, many times.. oh and this weekend also, 2 times. But also on on other hand. Adrien is hungry for his first win he will probably risk everything and push like hell. He could also do mistake and crash big.

[Tauri_J]

https://twitter.com/FakeHinkelstein/status/1883431356572823838?t=HhmwJwXXjNLJfKoSWTpC1A&s=19

3 hours left to melt it down

That will melt down easily, sun is coming out

[SubaruNorway]

Almost gone in the open now
https://www.windy.com/-Webcams-La-Bollene-Vesubie-Col-de-Turini/webcams/1652610740?43.977,7.391,9

[eib1]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/588981677333534

Seems that studs and slicks for Tänak at powerstage

[KKS]

https://twitter.com/rallycast_/status/1883465318531842335?t=1EocE2OewChVBom1Sqo_6g&s=19

40min to big boys and this not looking like full supersoft stage

[Morte66]

If it's a super soft stage...

It's a decently long stage, plenty of time for tyre advantage to overcome a 4s gap. So I think Fourmaux can reel Evans in unless his super-soft tyres are worn out.

22.2s to Ogier is harder but it's the kind of gap we saw earlier so it's on the cards.

It seems very possible somebody will push too hard and go off.

[KKS]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/588981677333534

Seems that studs and slicks for Tänak at powerstage
An interisting one... not cross, studs on rear

[KKS]

2608
it not gonna melt in 1 hour

[EstWRC]

so in the end Tänak can pull the rabbit out of the hat on PS? :D

[CeskyOndra]

2608
it not gonna melt in 1 hour

No but we dont know if this picture isnt from the morning, sun is quite low.

[KKS]

No but we dont know if this picture isnt from the morning, sun is quite low.
Seems its section down from a Turini. 3km ice on downhill.
Uphill - dry with damp according to https://twitter.com/Dimi_WRC/status/1883468819139907953?t=v4u-oSbXAjL51Om2JeDTfQ&s=19

[PLuto]

And what is worst - first will be WRC2 cars. So top Rally1 drivers will see on live what is the condition...

[KKS]

so in the end Tänak can pull the rabbit out of the hat on PS? :D
Evans and Ogier have same rabbits ��

[Kras]

And what is worst - first will be WRC2 cars. So top Rally1 drivers will see on live what is the condition...

It's time they start considering delaying the stream by 30mins or so...

[Eli]

so in the end Tänak can pull the rabbit out of the hat on PS? :D

Fingers crossed!

[Eli]

Shame they’re not doing the whole ascent & descent like they used to do in years past.

[PLuto]

Turini should be done in the night and not midday...

[SubaruNorway]

Fourmaux will gain loads up the hill, end maybe icy like in 2017 then maybe.

Edit, this is lots more

[Tauri_J]

That icy and snowy section is too short

[Eli]

Turini should be done in the night and not midday...

Why not both? ;)

[EstWRC]

That icy and snowy section is too short

Not that short IMO

[Tauri_J]

Nevermind looks a lot lol

[meh]

Watching the coverage, I'm not sure Fourmaux is really happy and confident at the moment.

[CeskyOndra]

LOL thats 4 studded

[EstWRC]

Tänak must change to 2 winter and 2 studs if he hasn’t done yet

[jonkka]

Slippery in the shade but changes to dry quite quickly. Difficult to say which is more prevalent over whole length of the stage.

[SubaruNorway]

Someones going to do a "Sean Johnston"

[Tauri_J]

No idea which tyre will be faster lol.

Monte lottery

[Morte66]

A fine display of figure skating from Gryazin there.

Well, Gus wishes he took one more stud.

[Tauri_J]

Show us the tyres ffs

[EstWRC]

Oliver lost nearly 20 seconds with the ending

[EstWRC]

And Fourmaux changed to studs. That tells a lot

[Tauri_J]

Could someone post tyre graph again?

[Tauri_J]

Rossell all over the place

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville 4 studs

[Tauri_J]

Neuville full studs

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That i20 Rally2 isn't so bad.

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville will be wild on ice section, I'm scared

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Brossel ! :D

[Tauri_J]

4 studs looks slow

[TypeR]

Rovanpera is flying, let's wait till slippery section

[meh]

Rovanperä for the win? :D

[becher]

What tyres was Rossel on again?

[EstWRC]

Tänak again super slow

[Kras]

Rovanperä for the win? :D

What tyres is he on?

[becher]

What tyres is he on?

Crossed studs and supersoft I think.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Stupid choice by Neuville.

[becher]

Pace wise this is Neuvilles worst tarmac performance for years.

[Eli]

Stupid choice by Neuville.

Neuville? What will you say about Ott’s choice….

[Eli]

Tänak again super slow

Stupid tire choice…at least Fourmaux took the right choice…

[Morte66]

I will admit that it is quite cool when the drone flies through the tunnel.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice Sunday save by Kalle.

[becher]

I will admit that it is quite cool when the drone flies through the tunnel.

I'm with you. I like the drone footage, it brakes up the endless onboard footage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

A good Monte for Tanak by his standards here.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great Hyundai debut by Fourmaux beating both his team mates.

[EstWRC]

A good Monte for Tanak by his standards here.

Yesterday was only good. The rest meh, got swiped by rookie teammate massively.

But at least decent start for the season

[TypeR]

What good points :D 5th place + 0 from Ssunday and 1 from PS

[CeskyOndra]

Adrien might get 25 points from the weekend lol

[rallyfiend]

I will admit that it is quite cool when the drone flies through the tunnel.

Yep, can't do that with a helicopter.

Well, not twice anyway....

[becher]

Yep, can't do that with a helicopter.

Well, not twice anyway....

ahahahaha

[EstWRC]

Seems Fourmaux really got a golden ticket with joining Hyundai. Now the car seems driveable finally

[Eli]

Well done to Fourmaux, thought he would bin it, shame I didn’t put him (at all) in the pickems, good points for Hyundai even though it’s round 1 to Toyota.

[Morte66]

I need a drink.

[Eli]

Seems Fourmaux really got a golden ticket with joining Hyundai. Now the car seems driveable finally

& all it took was removing the hybrid ;)

[Morte66]

I need a drink.

And oxygen.

[TypeR]

10 times rally Monte-Carlo winner Seb Ogier! Crazy guy!

[CeskyOndra]

Handfull of points for Toyota once again and 32 points for Ogier..

[linni]

They launch a new car for Hyundai in Sweden.

[EstWRC]

& all it took was removing the hybrid ;)

yep, remains to be seen how the 25 car is now. Only 3 weeks left until that

[Eli]

10 times rally Monte-Carlo winner Seb Ogier! Crazy guy!

No way Loeb will beat this record ;)

[Morte66]

Second place for both of my guys. Pretty happy with that.

2609

Evans racked up decent points too.

[denkimi]

Will we see ogier decide to do another title chase?

[CeskyOndra]

That's 8 points advantage Evans on Rovanpera, 15 on Tanak and 17 on Neuville - That's quite a lot, Hyundai's must pull something out of the bag in Sweden. And don't forget Fourmaux in championship race!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great result by Evans... 2nd to 10x Ogier is like a win here.

[meh]

I feel that Tänak did get the points he deserved compared to Neuville.

Tänak 5th place, 58.9 to the winner vs Neuville 6th place and 5:44.2 to the winner.

But as Tänak points out the positive aspect - is a good starting position for Sweden.

[Eli]

Will we see ogier decide to do another title chase?

Seems like he’s ready to retire and that THIS will be his final season, based on what he said at the end of stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Will we see ogier decide to do another title chase?

I don't know, but I do know he could win another Title if he wanted to.

[EstWRC]

I don't know, but I do know he could win another Title if he wanted to.

yeah he proved that las year not crashing out at all, oh wait...

i wouldnt do any conclusions for the rest of the season based on Monte, you could then say for sure already that Kalle wouldnt win the championship.

[CeskyOndra]

I feel that Tänak did get the points he deserved compared to Neuville.

Tänak 5th place, 58.9 to the winner vs Neuville 6th place and 5:44.2 to the winner.

But as Tänak points out the positive aspect - is a good starting position for Sweden.

If snow falls, starting position is a big aspect - But if it's frozen, it doesn't matter too much.. And ofcourse it won't be snowing because Tanak and Neuville are always unlucky with the weather ;D

[meh]

In general:
* Ogier - good known quality, the King stays
* Evans - seems that he can co-operate with the non-hybrid better
* Fourmaux - for me way better result and performance than expected, first time in the car and beating both champion in the team is quite some statement
* Rovanperä - found the rhythm and setup for Sunday
* Tänak - good pace on Saturday, 5th O/A maybe was not what expected before, but not a disaster either
* Neuville - maybe the most surprising thing was how many mistakes fresh champ made and basically did not have any pace. He was lucky that other retired and gained some positions and valuable points because of that
* Taka - well, guy was sick and there is no point in overanalyzing it
* Pajari - learning, shame for the mistake, but it's part of the learning
* Munster - quite some surprise actually, also congrats for the first-ever stage win, it's some milestone to achieve
* McErlean - collected experience and milage, we should just ignore the result

[deephouse]

Seems like he’s ready to retire and that THIS will be his final season, based on what he said at the end of stage.

He will start just like previous year and if he will won every event he will enter (or being points wise close to the top all the time), he will go for the title. Remember it could be huge story if he would won the title with part-season. It could also mean he would be better than Loeb (I think he already is, since he won titles with different manufacturers).

Also he said in a joke (I think he do think maybe also for real) that Pajari shouldn't be too good, since he want to drive for some time.

Hyundai should step up. I know they'll be getting new car for Sweden, but everytime they show with something new, they step back, so I'm very sceptical about that. Embarassment from both Tanak and Neuville.

[Morte66]

Fourmaux was the big news.

Tanak Saturday afternoon was... a sign of what could happen, but will it happen enough?

Evans: last year there were a lot of rallies where he did about as well as I expected but not quite as well as I hoped. This rally I got both.

Gryazin: last year I picked Pajari on a whim in WRC2, this year I pseudo-randomly selected Gryazin. WRC2 is the only part of my life where I get lucky.

The drone: did get better as the rally went on. Maybe we can give it some time.

The rally: damn good season opener. See you here for Sweden!

[CeskyOndra]

Sweden's competition is going to be huge - Pajari, Sesks and Katsuta starting from behind! All of them are going to be quick.

[doubled1978]

Great Rally!

Big congrats to Ogier, top performance at the hardest rally over so many years, very impressive.
A little bit of a shame there was so much ice on the Turini, it would have been great to see Fourmaux’s tyre gamble play out with 4 x SS on, but in the end they had to all take the same tyre package.
Evans was really good, Fourmaux excellent. Tanak amazing place yesterday…
I feel very sorry for Munster, he drove very well this weekend and showed more speed than I thought he had, let’s hope he can build on that. I suppose the upside is he and Sesks will have good road position in Sweden…

[EstWRC]

In general:
* Ogier - good known quality, the King stays
* Evans - seems that he can co-operate with the non-hybrid better
* Fourmaux - for me way better result and performance than expected, first time in the car and beating both champion in the team is quite some statement
* Rovanperä - found the rhythm and setup for Sunday
* Tänak - good pace on Saturday, 5th O/A maybe was not what expected before, but not a disaster either
* Neuville - maybe the most surprising thing was how many mistakes fresh champ made and basically did not have any pace. He was lucky that other retired and gained some positions and valuable points because of that
* Taka - well, guy was sick and there is no point in overanalyzing it
* Pajari - learning, shame for the mistake, but it's part of the learning
* Munster - quite some surprise actually, also congrats for the first-ever stage win, it's some milestone to achieve
* McErlean - collected experience and milage, we should just ignore the result

ill add mine also then

Ogier - well like you said, he is the king and nothing more to say. Very well managed rally once again, although again two mistakes which coulnd have ended his rally but lucky this time.

Evans - seems indeed that the non-hybrid machine suits also for him better like for Tänak, but he did well in Monte also with the hybrid. Still remains to be seen how it evolves.

Fourmaux - surprise and man of the rally for me but my guess is that he had massive advantage over Tänak and Thierry (and over the rest) with his experience from the test rally and two test days also in different conditions. On Saturday when it clicked for Tänak then he was much slower.

Rovanperä - i said already before the season that he will be rusty and that is what excatly happened but even with this form nice 4th place and on Sunday had great pace already. For me he is still the championship contender nr 1.

Tänak - superb saturday, showed that the talent hasnt gone anywhere and dominated like in the old days. But then again very bad pace on friday and especially today but i think it is all down to the experience with the tyres. He had only one test day and in full soaking rain. He has to stop doing this stupid tyre choices, needs a new race tactic guy or smth. Luckily there is only one choice in sweden, if there would be two then im sure he would choose the second one.

Neuvile - well, seemed like the old Neuville is back again with the stupid mistakes out of nowhere but the surprising thing was that he didnt also have any pace, 0 stage wins for him but like Tänak then he also seems hasnt found the click the with all of the different tyre choices yet.

Taka - shame for te crash, showed amazing pace on saturday but thats often the case with him that founds great speed but then crashes.

Pajari - well, learning curve, part of it. some nice split times on some stages.

Munster - crashed but IMO did still very good. had starting pos advantage and tyre advantage but he used it very well, has taken another step IMO.

Josh - i better not comment

[denkimi]

Sweden's competition is going to be huge - Pajari, Sesks and Katsuta starting from behind! All of them are going to be quick.
So do Tanak and neuville, which could be interesting.

[CeskyOndra]

So do Tanak and neuville, which could be interesting.

You can say that also about Kalle, starting third instead of fourth. Not much of a difference. I really hope there is a mobile signal in Sweden's forests and I will know the times when spectating :D

[Morte66]

I hope for a clear, dry Sweden with clean hard ice. Ice + spikes = tarmac, essentially.

[CeskyOndra]

I wonder If Toyota register Pajari or Evans for scoring points for teams championship..

[Morte66]

I wonder If Toyota register Pajari or Evans for scoring points for teams championship..

I believe Pajari is in a second team, with "2" in the name, and he'll drive for points in that team. He can't drive for more than one team in a season.

[CeskyOndra]

I believe Pajari is in a second team, with "2" in the name, and he'll drive for points in that team. He can't drive for more than one team in a season.

I haven't seen more than 3 teams in championship standings?

[Morte66]

I haven't seen more than 3 teams in championship standings?

Have a look here https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?44170-WRC-Rally-Sweden-2025&p=1357780&viewfull=1#post1357780

I guess Toyota 2 team has no points, so they aren't on the standings yet.

[focus206]

In the end, Kalle did exactly what he was supposed to do. Not confident? Drive at your own pace and let's see if others make mistakes or have problems, and so got on the podium on his least favourite event.

Very impressed by Fourmaux, very mature drive. Ogier Monte master again, good job by Evans too.

Overall, seems like the Toyota drivers got used to Hankook or the hybrid removal better than Hyundai, especially Tanak and Neuville. At least Tanak was fast yesterday, Neuville struggled all weekend. But new car in Sweden, so we'll see.

In the end, McErlean 7th :D Okay, only 11 seconds faster than the lead WRC2 driver, but at least no mistakes.

[CeskyOndra]

Have a look here https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?44170-WRC-Rally-Sweden-2025&p=1357780&viewfull=1#post1357780

I guess Toyota 2 team has no points, so they aren't on the standings yet.

Aaaah okey!

[Morte66]

In the end, McErlean 7th :D Okay, only 11 seconds faster than the lead WRC2 driver, but at least no mistakes.

Is seems to me McErlean is doing what Munster did last year -- bringing the car home above all else. Rich Millener said that was the plan in an interview before the rally.

Given how everybody suddenly feels better about Munster, and given the real speed I've seen from McErlean in ERC on occasion (which I never saw from Munster), I think this whole McErlean season is a bit strange but not completely mad.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Interesting to note that not a single driver complained about a lack of power due to no more hybrid boost, or about the quality of the new Hankook tyres.

And no one here complained about any lack of spectacle or dtop in speed of the new-spec cars.

Plus the revised points system has had universal praise.

Good job WRC, credit where it's due.

[Morte66]

Interesting to note that not a single driver complained about a lack of power due to no more hybrid boost, or about the quality of the new Hankook tyres.

And no one here complained about any lack of spectacle or dtop in speed of the new-spec cars.

Plus the revised points system has had universal praise.

Good job WRC, credit where it's due.

I agree completely. Good day for WRC today.

[CeskyOndra]

Yeah. No one is complaining about new points system.

[doubled1978]

Interesting to note that not a single driver complained about a lack of power due to no more hybrid boost, or about the quality of the new Hankook tyres.

And no one here complained about any lack of spectacle or dtop in speed of the new-spec cars.

Plus the revised points system has had universal praise.

Good job WRC, credit where it's due.

Actually that’s true.
I have to say, seems Hankook did a good job. Am I right that Munster was the only puncture amongst the Rally1 cars? I know a couple knocked off the rims by going off, but actual punctures seemed very low.
I think a full dry tarmac rally will be a test, that’s where the quality of the rubber will be tested the most I suspect.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

For posterity:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GiN_WflXEAARaUQ?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

wtf. Neuville got only two points less than Tänak in the end?

Huge gifts from Munster and Taka for him

[linni]

Actually that’s true.
I have to say, seems Hankook did a good job. Am I right that Munster was the only puncture amongst the Rally1 cars? I know a couple knocked off the rims by going off, but actual punctures seemed very low.
I think a full dry tarmac rally will be a test, that’s where the quality of the rubber will be tested the most I suspect.

Neuville had a puncture before his second off.

[CeskyOndra]

wtf. Neuville got only two points less than Tänak in the end?

Huge gifts from Munster and Taka for him

And also gift from Tanak because of his poor performance today

[focus206]

wtf. Neuville got only two points less than Tänak in the end?

Huge gifts from Munster and Taka for him

You mean Pajari and Taka, Munster was well behind.
In the end, Neuville finished only 1 place behind Tanak and they scored the same on Sunday. Tanak was last of the trouble-free drivers, Neuville was first of the troubled ones. Well, apart from McErlean who was just bringing it home.

[486]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBAu_LKdzo8
Monte Carlo is unique in so many aspects.

[ictus]

Any videos form the snowy parts of Turini?

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/KRIR0SSlvqc?si=5UKDljaLDQfDdjBj
https://youtu.be/PEE3FQZk-4A?si=PlguZS01scG9RG00
https://youtu.be/Y9eK4YmdO-Y?si=ZBTA7Qonn2TZSc9O
https://youtu.be/taMLeO_dzEQ?si=6-Q4GU137NtK3pfm
https://youtu.be/UTNi_VKRCCY?si=l_VnkrKYHATQi1AB

[AndrewTate]

Guys for the future I would like to know, where to find information regarding who are gravel crews for each crew?

[trykmann]

Tänak said to Estonian media, that their Excel calculations about the tires were wrong. I have never given much thought about the process for choosing the best tire package and I have understood it has a lot to do with the drivers own preference.

Is the optimal tire therefore chosen according to the calculations from the engineer(s)? Can somebody give more insight to this? Why are then the tire packages different inside the team between different drivers?

[EstWRC]

He should stop using that excel then and choose by his own feeling.

And how come his excel was so wrong then.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GiPiED8WUAA40tC?format=jpg&name=large

[rallyfiend]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GiPiED8WUAA40tC?format=jpg&name=large

What a moron.

[CeskyOndra]

What a moron.

Who?

[deephouse]

So new FIA rules already running here in WRC. Bunch of clowns up there.

[SubaruNorway]

He should have learnt by now.

[KKS]

What a great rally. One of the best in recent years. And that Sunday drama with tyre and condition make it with a cherry in a top

[KKS]

They launch a new car for Hyundai in Sweden.
Hope that new car was be better for Ott, and this was what he wants from old Hyundai team and didn't get. Hope that Sweden and rest gravel rallys will be better for him

[JAM]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GiPiED8WUAA40tC?format=jpg&name=large

The answer of why WRC is being boring and uninteresting to the average citizen.

[EstWRC]

Hope that new car was be better for Ott, and this was what he wants from old Hyundai team and didn't get. Hope that Sweden and rest gravel rallys will be better for him

He said to Estonian media that especially the geometry has been changed a lot to suit him

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Wyrn7_9XjQ4

[KKS]

He said to Estonian media that especially the geometry has been changed a lot to suit him
He pushed that change a lot... even on first coming, and it didn't happen. So hope it work for him

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GiPiED8WUAA40tC?format=jpg&name=large

Very interesting here https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFTIaHGN2UD/?igsh=YTZucG1jcjB1MHI4

Oliver do it much nicer - and got penalty. Do it lame as Munster - and FIA says it's OK.
:/

[denkimi]

In rc4, eliott delecour won 12 out of 15 stages driven.
In rc3, arthur pelamourgues won 13 out of 15.

Both classes didn't have that much cars, but still remarkable for both.

[TypeR]

Ingram did the same in 2023.. did he get a penalty? Don't remember..

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CswlP2WIdLs/?igsh=MWJtMGN3czBkdWdmNA==

[deephouse]

Seems that FIA doesn't like Solberg, Neuville and Ogier.

[Tauri_J]

Seems that FIA doesn't like Solberg, Neuville and Ogier.

Neuville? They saved him from retirement

[doubled1978]

He said to Estonian media that especially the geometry has been changed a lot to suit him

I hope so, the Hyundai as it is now is clearly very tricky to set up. It seems the window is very narrow. When it’s in the window, it is probably the fastest car, but that’s very difficult to achieve consistently. We saw him absolutely fly on Saturday afternoon, but most of the other times he was not that fast.
Neuville had road position advantage, but even then wasn’t really convincing and Fourmaux just looked like he was bullying a car that was to use a British term ‘sketchy’, he did well, but it was clear the car was fighting him.
The car has always been very loose at the rear, which can be fast if it’s under control, but very easy to sap confidence if it’s too much.

[Rallyper]

If Solberg had gone for points and won, what would FIA have done?

[TypeR]

If Solberg had gone for points and won, what would FIA have done?
Maybe then he hadn't done it maybe.. :D


And now being a Toyota's driver, maybe he gets a notice from there also, not to do such things on public roads..

[EstWRC]

I hope so, the Hyundai as it is now is clearly very tricky to set up. It seems the window is very narrow. When it’s in the window, it is probably the fastest car, but that’s very difficult to achieve consistently. We saw him absolutely fly on Saturday afternoon, but most of the other times he was not that fast.
Neuville had road position advantage, but even then wasn’t really convincing and Fourmaux just looked like he was bullying a car that was to use a British term ‘sketchy’, he did well, but it was clear the car was fighting him.
The car has always been very loose at the rear, which can be fast if it’s under control, but very easy to sap confidence if it’s too much.

I’m very hopeful. He seems different this year and more like confident in the interviews and even with this car he showed on Saturday how fast he could be when he got the balance right with the new tires and the conditions were stable.

I’m not a specialist but I have so far really liked the testing videos with the 25 machine. No corrections any more at mid corner and the car seems much more stable and reactive.

But test is a test. Anyway, we will find out soon how it really is.

[Rallyper]

Maybe then he hadn't done it maybe.. :D


And now being a Toyota's driver, maybe he gets a notice from there also, not to do such things on public roads..

Different persons do different things. It´s in their genes.
Giving the spectators a show is what all PR-people want you to do.
And this particular place in Monaco has been used for such displays many times before. (as shown above in this thread)

[CeskyOndra]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFSlMq1MJYx/?igsh=OWZja2w5MHpxNDdr

Here you can clearly see the difference between Toyota and Hyundai in the fast muddy corners, Toyota definitely much more stable and easier to drive..

[EstWRC]

Yep. Hyundai stiff as a brick but that’s old news

[TypeR]

Keeping tyres warm @140kph :)
https://x.com/Lukyanuky/status/1883448265188024775

[deephouse]

Neuville? They saved him from retirement

Practically every rally he is penalised. But yeah, always get huge fines instead of DNQ (as many would like to see), so how again he was saved? I just pointed out that these 3 usually gets some sort of punishments like the FIA isn't looking at no one else in the world rally championship world. The real villain here is FIA with this non-sense rules. How many times did drivers crawl to the finish and save their rallies. Or drift and make some kind of show to the fans. It was always part of this sport and how are they manage to boost fan engagement if all this things will be taken out. Crews will become too tight, don't want to say anything, even probably will not smile anymore, since those up there will also forbid that too. FIA is complete joke, and I personaly would rather be happy if the whole WRC would be under some other sport organization (better at managing) or even individual crew.

[rallyfiend]

I think they were lucky to get away with the penalties they got.

Don't forgot, Oliver's mum is the chair of the FIA's WRC Commission as well... Maybe this is favourable treatemtn?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ingram did the same in 2023.. did he get a penalty? Don't remember..

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CswlP2WIdLs/?igsh=MWJtMGN3czBkdWdmNA==

No, just a bollocking. He was talking about this to a Monaco journalist recently.

[TypeR]

Solberg just did it just better..
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/12DfemN5WzS/

[Backa]

I just pointed out that these 3 usually gets some sort of punishments like the FIA isn't looking at no one else in the world rally championship world.

Penalties aren't supposed to be equally distributed, if those 3 are more often breaking rules then they will get more penalties.

Public roads are generally place when rally drivers are supposed to drive like regular Joe, not to do show. I think it deserves some penalty but considering it's Fairmont, it should not be harsh, more like reminder to all drivers to keep in mind safety of other drivers and pedestrians between stages.

In terms of boosting fan engagement, by giving that penalty FIA made more people aware of this drift. Monte wasn't scoring round for Solberg so ending with 15th place instead of 13th is not "real" penalty but finger wagging.

[focus206]

Neuville? They saved him from retirement

A driver retires if he can't fix his car from having only 3 rotating wheels. Neuville could and did fix the car, so what retirement are we talking about? He got the fine because he didn't repair it immediately, which he should have. He could have maybe received a time penalty, but he finished 5 minutes ahead of McErlean, so it would have made no difference.

Ogier, on the other hand, escaped any type of penalty for Ingrassia not bringing the time card with him in Sardegna 2018 and for the chaos he made on the road section of Croatia 2021.

[denkimi]

Solberg just did it just better..
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/12DfemN5WzS/
and with a lot more speed.


Keeping tyres warm @140kph :)
https://x.com/Lukyanuky/status/1883448265188024775
I think he's trying to lose the studs on his tyres.

But he's lucky the FIA didn't see this video, because it's also highly illegal and he would have gotten a penalty.

[Rallyper]

I should say it was more or less expected drivers should make some extras in that corner. Lot of spectators used to what historically always has been a part of the rally.

[dimviii]

Yep. Hyundai stiff as a brick but that’s old news

even ford is better than hyundai

[JRodrigues]

Very interesting here https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFTIaHGN2UD/?igsh=YTZucG1jcjB1MHI4

Oliver do it much nicer - and got penalty. Do it lame as Munster - and FIA says it's OK.
:/

They all shoud've gotten 5 min.

[ictus]

even ford is better than hyundai

You know that the drivers set up the cars to their liking...
Some like it stiff some like it soft

[dimviii]

You know that the drivers set up the cars to their liking...
Some like it stiff some like it soft

thats a different thing, from what we are discussing.
Hyundais are very nervous at rear,something we saw at this video.

[dimviii]

Solberg just did it just better..
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/12DfemN5WzS/

i found a better one
https://x.com/RallyeSport/status/1883871691765596245

[tbazsi95]

FULL ONBOARD - SS8 Ogier/Landais | WRC Rallye Monte-Carlo 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9KaxgrenKE

[tbazsi95]

How Munster Grabbed His First Stage Win
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twbkfYFptws

[tbazsi95]

WRC Cars vs. Public Roads: Best Moments on Real Roads WRC | WRC Rallye Monte-Carlo 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE25eQfT8uc