[WRC] Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo 2025

[PLuto]

Rossel gained about 30 seconds on Gryazin and went into the lead in WRC2 by 21.4s. Those studs didn't work out for Gryazin.

Gryazin is not doing WRC2. Same like Solberg or Greensmith. So in terms of points, for Rossel it is not so important for Rossel to beat them. From WRC2 competitors he is easily fastest and he can easily score maximum points, if he will finish. Other podium contenders Camilli and Leo and even fourth Dapra are too far behind...

[EstWRC]

Wasn't that the way he drove the ford too?

Yep but what is funny to me that at the stage end he says he took it easy while the onboard says something else. Lappi was the same way

Just look at the last sector onboard of Ogier and then Fourmaux from the last stage. Ogier was very controlled, neat and tidy and Fourmaux the whole opposite with very aggressive and moments basically in every corner. Even the Estonian commentators were holding their breath.

[Rallyest]

If Fourmaux says now he took it steady then he is a liar. He has been over the edge all the day

lol and he said it was a clean stage

Pushing or not, hats off to Fourmaux, new car and challenging the big boys straight from the first stage.

[PLuto]

So two punctures so far, one for Neuville and for Munster.

Out of 9 stages Toyota drivers have won 8, Fourmaux one for Hyundai.

The Toyota’s seemed to be a lot better on the messy and muddy sections.

This is Monte, difficult to compare. I think there was also puncture for Pajari. Also important is starting order.

[JAM]

I dont know if im the only one who has noticed, but Kalle has a new favourite word 😀

Only until the fine...

[EstWRC]

Pushing or not, hats off to Fourmaux, new car and challenging the big boys straight from the first stage.

Yeah he has been the surprise so far. Didn’t expect him to be that fast already

But I’m afraid it won’t last until the end of the rally. He was pushing his luck already today many times.

[Rallyest]

Yeah he has been the surprise so far. Didn’t expect him to be that fast already

But I’m afraid it won’t last until the end of the rally. He was pushing his luck already today many times.

Positive is that stability is learnable, raw speed is not, hope he can keep his speed up and stay consitent through whole season. When Ott retires then i have a new driver to follow 😀

[doubled1978]

If Fourmaux says now he took it steady then he is a liar. He has been over the edge all the day

lol and he said it was a clean stage

I wouldn’t say he has been over the edge, indeed he hasn’t actually gone off yet unless I missed it. Neuville, Ogier, Evans and Tanak all have been off, some more than once.

I’m not saying he hasn’t been pushing, but he’s backed off when he felt it was dodgy and kept it all pointing the right way, so far…

[eib1]

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/474531593_1025100546325746_9112917430557860939_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=dcHRo4G0lEwQ7kNvgGIZVvk&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&_nc_gid=AAT2DBvrzWqGeAK2syR0Wf2&oh=00_AYAxhehs-uZtNxcb23t3LnVOPdhXNyt5nvOD-EZAJJ1g9A&oe=6799C58E

[TypeR]

Hyundai Cybertruck :D

[Tom206wrc]

Gryazin is not doing WRC2. Same like Solberg or Greensmith. So in terms of points, for Rossel it is not so important for Rossel to beat them. From WRC2 competitors he is easily fastest and he can easily score maximum points, if he will finish. Other podium contenders Camilli and Leo and even fourth Dapra are too far behind...

Maybe, but it's even better to win the class than to just finish second(or so) ;)

[TypeR]

SS11/14 shortened by 5.37km from start for safety issues.
(Bulletin 5)

[becher]

Fourmaux the fastest guy today

https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/89918-rallye-automobile-monte-carlo-2025/?leg=2

Munster only off the lead by a minute is very good for him considering he lost around 40 seconds to the puncture.

[CeskyOndra]

Munster retired on a road section, Neuville moves to P8 with potential of being 7. at maximum without others doing mistakes.

[EstWRC]

Why he retired?

[TypeR]

Why he retired?
,,Suspected electrical problem on the final road section of the day''

[EstWRC]

Flat out day 2 https://youtu.be/0ju6ZEgU3jg?si=Sc_y2UkMjlrW6OMo

https://youtu.be/hqq9Lon355g?si=bgVrr-ZLKUKcuIfM

[Eli]

Shame, Munster didn't deserve this, have to say, his best day in a rally car yet.

[486]

Flat out day 2 https://youtu.be/0ju6ZEgU3jg?si=Sc_y2UkMjlrW6OMo

https://youtu.be/hqq9Lon355g?si=bgVrr-ZLKUKcuIfM

The peak speed Rossel manages to reach is quite interesting. :cool:

[dimviii]

Neuville
https://www.facebook.com/groups/257661263014826/permalink/938470811600531/?mibextid=wwXIfr&rdid=PSTSoWshYcIuU1hp&share_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fshare%2 Fv%2F15sifrpieb%2F%3Fmibextid%3DwwXIfr#
https://www.facebook.com/groups/257661263014826/permalink/938471571600455/

[dimviii]

rigostyle video
https://youtu.be/7DtG1fBWrbM

[dimviii]

flat out video
https://youtu.be/WhW47TBp7SA

[focus206]

Still..
Should have learned from Japan and play the team game... douche.

:D
Seeing you calling Neuville names after he became world champion is 10x better. I don't want to believe someone can be so dumb to interpret "playing the team game" as "let's go slowly from the 1st round"... it's even your native language, don't make it embarassing.

[becher]

Totally deserved damage or I would say.. too little damage.
From his interview, that he already had puncture before that hairpin.. he came flat-out and I would say that even with good tyre he wouldn't have made it. Braking was sooo late.

Still..
Should have learned from Japan and play the team game... douche.

I think this is called "being butthurt", question is why?

[CeskyOndra]

Sunday stages could be a total mess. Lot of rain/snow expected in the morning in Gap area.

[Carbon]

For real, what the hell ruined Munsters rally? I'm so devasted. Alternator? Not a fan of him but for real, what the hell..?

Come on, if it's again a simple electrical sh´t, please Malcolm, use original Ford Sierra's stuff.

[EstWRC]

No surprises with the damp conditions. Everyone with softs and super softs

[EstWRC]

Bone dry basically

[TypeR]

Out of service and technical issue for Neuville.. no power

[PLuto]

Bone dry basically

Unfortunately :(

[WRC1]

desaster for Neuville...

[CeskyOndra]

Same issue as Japan maybe.. Luckily he is out of the fight.

[EstWRC]

Not a great start to the season for the world champion

[tbazsi95]

:D
Seeing you calling Neuville names after he became world champion is 10x better. I don't want to believe someone can be so dumb to interpret "playing the team game" as "let's go slowly from the 1st round"... it's even your native language, don't make it embarassing.

If you see the last 25 year, proper world champion (Ogier, Loeb) will never let go in the first round.

[deephouse]

Same issue as Japan maybe.. Luckily he is out of the fight.

He still got sunday points to grab. Of course if the car will be repaired. If the crew retire do then get more time for repair?

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville on the move (fast move) so reset maybe helped.

[EstWRC]

So Tänak said that yesterday was the first time he use the super softs. Didn’t even use them on shakedown

Let’s see if there is more speed today

[TypeR]

So Tänak said that yesterday was the first time he use the super softs. Didn’t even use them on shakedown

Let’s see if there is more speed today

Didn't they use them on thurdsay? He had 5 supersofts according to Hankook page..

[Rallyper]

Morning lads.

[Peperoma]

Do you know about some Snow, ICE or atleast slush on todays stages.
BTW: McErlean have a good stage, maybe the best in WRC

[PLuto]

Do you know about some Snow, ICE or atleast slush on todays stages.
BTW: McErlean have a good stage, maybe the best in WRC

Almost nothing. There was very small parts on third stage, but as temperature is everywhere above 10°C...

[Lead]

That commentator is hyping exactly nothing...

[EstWRC]

No progress from Tänak, muddy place and drops time again right away

[jonkka]

Is Munster going to get stage win for this?

[bandit12]

Is Munster going to get stage win for this?
I really hope so

[EstWRC]

Fourmaux schooling Tänak and Neuville again

[denkimi]

Maybe there actually is something in Munster.

[deephouse]

And Munster done it

[Morte66]

Excellent "use of road position" from Munster. :)

[EstWRC]

Maybe there actually is something in Munster.

Lol. Starting position win totally.

But I’m totally happy for him

[CeskyOndra]

Fourmaux schooling Tänak and Neuville again

Only if Neuville could do anything on this stage

[EstWRC]

Only if Neuville could do anything on this stage

He lost around 7-8 seconds to Munster even after he got fully running again

[Rallyper]

Munster stage win is quite unexpected, at least before the rally and season.
However learning curve and all circumstances including a good car, played it well for him.
Let´s hope this continues.

[deephouse]

Winning the stage isn't important if the car need to work properly until the service. And maybe catching next target on leaderboard. Between him and Pajari is 1:16 so it's doable, again if the car will work properly

[EstWRC]

He lost around 7-8 seconds to Munster even after he got fully running again

12 seconds actually but it seems for him it’s the same case as for Tänak. They lack the experience with softs and super softs because they couldn’t test them.

[rallyfiend]

12 seconds actually but it seems for him it’s the same case as for Tänak. They lack the experience with softs and super softs because they couldn’t test them.

Sounds like their fault for not putting their hands up to test the tyres. They left it to Andreas, Dani and EP - the three drivers NOT driving for them this year....

[EstWRC]

Sounds like their fault for not putting their hands up to test the tyres. They left it to Andreas, Dani and EP - the three drivers NOT driving for them this year....

Really? Lol

I thought it was because their testing conditions didn’t allow. Neuville had full frost and snow and Tänak had full wet day

[deephouse]

Having 4th car could help them here in this case, they could test different things for the rest of the crew.

[CeskyOndra]

Really? Lol

I thought it was because their testing conditions didn’t allow. Neuville had full frost and snow and Tänak had full wet day

That was just additional test day, wasn't it?

[CeskyOndra]

Yeah the speed is not there today for Neuville, lets see what Tanak can do

[TypeR]

Awful drone footage in my opinion.. Most of the time like in a washingmachine..

[PLuto]

Awful drone footage in my opinion.. Most of the time like in a washingmachine..

I totally hate this action drone footage.

[denkimi]

Yeah the speed is not there today for Neuville, lets see what Tanak can do

Why should it? he's 5 minutes of the lead, he's not going to catch anyone on speed.

[jonkka]

I so wish that drone controller would lose it and crash that damn thing into trees.

[CeskyOndra]

Why should it? he's 5 minutes of the lead, he's not going to catch anyone on speed.

He is far away but still loosing more than 20 seconds when trying setups is quite a lot tho. Hopefully he will be quick tomorrow, the conditions will be difficult I guess..

[CeskyOndra]

Wow Kalle 14 seconds

[EstWRC]

He is far away but still loosing more than 20 seconds when trying setups is quite a lot tho. Hopefully he will be quick tomorrow, the conditions will be difficult I guess..

Exactly. He has to push and test to find a good rhythm and speed for tomorrow. He needs big points from tomorrow

[CeskyOndra]

He is far away but still loosing more than 20 seconds when trying setups is quite a lot tho. Hopefully he will be quick tomorrow, the conditions will be difficult I guess..

Edit: It's not a lot compared to others, Tanak just flying

[CeskyOndra]

Exactly. He has to push and test to find a good rhythm and speed for tomorrow. He needs big points from tomorrow

He has to but tomorrow definitely won't be dry

[Tauri_J]

Why was this stage shortened?

[EstWRC]

That’s a massive time from Tänak. Maybe finally got the grips with the softs and super softs

[jonkka]

Why was this stage shortened?

From acm.mc:

For safety reasons, Race Control has decided to move the starting point of the special stages 11 and 14 (Aucelon / Recoubeau-Jansac 1 and Aucelon / Recoubeau-Jansac 2), which will take place this Saturday. This will shorten the stages by 5.37 km from the initial start.

EDIT: Source: https://acm.mc/en/ss11-and-ss14-shortened/

[Morte66]

Fourmaux pulls ahead of Evans on the twisty stage.

At the rally's start, my main wish was for Evans to beat Neuville. But now I would quite like him to beat Fourmaux.

[Morte66]

And a little nibble at the scenery for Gryazin...

[CeskyOndra]

Fourmaux very surprised me. If he is quick in Monte, he can be quick everywhere. For sure many of us don't count him as a championship contender, which is a mistake. He is performing the best out of all championship contenders. Don't forget him in the championship race.

[Tauri_J]

From acm.mc:

For safety reasons, Race Control has decided to move the starting point of the special stages 11 and 14 (Aucelon / Recoubeau-Jansac 1 and Aucelon / Recoubeau-Jansac 2), which will take place this Saturday. This will shorten the stages by 5.37 km from the initial start.

EDIT: Source: https://acm.mc/en/ss11-and-ss14-shortened/

Yeah, I read that yesterday. But I wonder what safety reasons? Drivers, spectators or something else

[deephouse]

Cliffs, ice? Very dangerous combinations. And maybe the fact that there is only around 30 crews left out of 70, sure they don't want to lose more of them.

[CeskyOndra]

Maybe falling rocks?

[TypeR]

Cliffs, ice? Very dangerous combinations. And maybe the fact that there is only around 30 crews left out of 70, sure they don't want to lose more of them.

65 crews started today..

SS10 was red flaged because of car on fire.

[CeskyOndra]

Its really slippy now.. Thierry woke up.

[CeskyOndra]

Unfortunately we have the same Evans as we had last 2 years, no speed in crucial fights on Saturday.

[meh]

7 different stage winners so far:
Ogier SS1, SS2, SS8, SS9
Evans SS3, SS7
Rovanperä SS4
Fourmaux SS6
Munster SS10
Tänak SS11
Katsuta SS12

[EstWRC]

Morning loop https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/89918-rallye-automobile-monte-carlo-2025/?leg=3

[denkimi]

Someday we will have a lot of dead spectators.

https://x.com/i/status/1882822143496585351

[Kras]

Someday we will have a lot of dead spectators.

https://x.com/i/status/1882822143496585351

Complete retards

[Krigen]

??

[EstWRC]

Tyre choice for the evening

https://hankook-recce.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/WhatsApp-Image-2025-01-25-at-13.54.10_1b7eec99.jpg

[CeskyOndra]

Let's see If its just Neuville struggling in the last sector or Hyundai in general.

[TypeR]

Seems like changing front springs helped Tanak? + maybe other changes too

[EstWRC]

Seems Tänak is starting to get grips today

[SubaruNorway]

Is this the new feature, team member telling us the time we already saw on screen

[DionLv]

I think they are testing different things to use later this season

[EstWRC]

Is this the new feature, team member telling us the time we already saw on screen

I guess they are testing the live command center

[Rallyper]

SS14 delayed?

Edit: now running 1608
Edit 2: obviously started in time 1605, butbroadcast wasn´t there from start... :)

[CeskyOndra]

Thierry lucky now.. He just can't get on with the new tires.. That's clear to see

[focus206]

Clearly Neuville not getting used to Hankook/hybrid removal/who knows what

[Kras]

Neuville is putting that poor car through a hell of a test today

[focus206]

What a shame that electrical problem for Munster...

[Kras]

Suicide drone footage from UA/RU war looks less spastic than whatever this is

[Morte66]

The drone was... less bad, hanging back a bit to keep the car in the frame. But I don't think this is the future.

[Tauri_J]

I’m pretty impressed by Tänak’s speed today

[Kras]

The problem is the unstabilized and and too wide angled camera. Put a a narrower lense and a gyro on there and it would be great

[Kras]

Lol Takas diff cant disengage?

[Rallyper]

Now we recognize the real Tanak!!

[CeskyOndra]

If tomorrow's weather predictions are right, Tanak has a chance to win.. He will be just under 10s from the 2nd place after this stage!

[dimviii]

Tanak is going to catch 2nd position if he keeps like that

[meh]

This stage can be renamed to Tänak's stage.

[Kras]

These 3 fighting for 2nd means Seb can't afford to slack. I can't get enough of this

[Eli]

Please I implore you Tänak, whatever you do, keep it on the road!

[dimviii]

Gryazin now 8,2 from Rossel

[skarderud]

Clearly Neuville not getting used to Hankook/hybrid removal/who knows whatSeems the Hyundai is better for the others without the extra weight in the back, but Neuville struggle with more balanced car?
Has the weight-distrubution been the main problem these hybrid-years?

Sent fra min SM-S901B via Tapatalk

[becher]

Seems the Hyundai is better for the others without the extra weight in the back, but Neuville struggle with more balanced car?
Has the weight-distrubution been the main problem these hybrid-years?

Sent fra min SM-S901B via Tapatalk

That is a too simple and quick conclusion. It most likely is the adjustment to the tires or it could be just one of those events where it gets from bad to worse. It happens.

[meh]

Everyone is looking for a new suitable setup for them and it is just running with time to find it fast for each road-condition situation. Seems that at the moment Neuville struggles the most, Rovanperä has not found it either.

[Kras]

That icy part is fucked. Gonna be fun :)

[486]

Please I implore you Tänak, whatever you do, keep it on the road!

He goes for the 2nd place!

[Kras]

Praying for Ott to finish the stage :shock:

[Lead]

Tanak going all-in

[EstWRC]

Tänak has been fantastic today. As his huge fan So good to see him like that

[Kras]

It's getting darker

[meh]

Is Evans stopped or my maps has an issue?

edit: commentators also said, that they don't receive data from Evans

edit 2: on maps also moving now.

[PLuto]

Is this the new feature, team member telling us the time we already saw on screen

This "live command center" looks quite nonsence for me. Instead they should make properly working "spectators center" with proper timing and all informations around. Technological quality of wrc.com website and whole service around is disaster for many years and still no changes...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak didn't test on the soft tyre as it was really wet...

https://youtu.be/nz9471FXHhU?si=H9b_uO1kJ1iLFNLD

He could've won here if he had.

[PLuto]

Is Evans stopped or my maps has an issue?

edit: commentators also said, that they don't receive data from Evans

Only GPS bad connection, nothing serious.

[EstWRC]

Tanak didn't test on the soft tyre as it was really wet...

https://youtu.be/nz9471FXHhU?si=H9b_uO1kJ1iLFNLD

He could've won here if he had.

I’ve been talking about this two days. He lacked the experience with the tyres

[meh]

McErlean, loss per km for the stage winner:

Day 1
* SS1 2.94
* SS2 3.02
* SS3 4.65

Day 2
* SS4 1.43
* SS5 cancelled
* SS6 2.07
* SS7 2.42
* SS8 3.53
* SS9 2.63

Day 3 - road position advantage
* SS10 1.05
* SS11 2.68
* SS12 1.55
* SS13 1.42
* SS14 1.76
* SS15 1.51

[Kras]

Tanak didn't test on the soft tyre as it was really wet...

https://youtu.be/nz9471FXHhU?si=H9b_uO1kJ1iLFNLD

He could've won here if he had.

Considering his Monte record, scoring points is enough

[CeskyOndra]

I think that these few seconds they are battling for this afternoon don't matter if tomorrow will be full ice :D

[EstWRC]

Today overall https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/89918-rallye-automobile-monte-carlo-2025/?leg=3

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good for Tanak that the 'Saturday points' has gone now and he can catch more time tomorrow & get the overall position points.

[Morte66]

It's getting darker

I do adore the onboards as the sun goes down. I think Tanak was peak pretty this evening.

[tbazsi95]

Tanak close up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMppwyG_U0

[denkimi]

McErlean, loss per km for the stage winner:

Day 1
* SS1 2.94
* SS2 3.02
* SS3 4.65

Day 2
* SS4 1.43
* SS5 cancelled
* SS6 2.07
* SS7 2.42
* SS8 3.53
* SS9 2.63

Day 3 - road position advantage
* SS10 1.05
* SS11 2.68
* SS12 1.55
* SS13 1.42
* SS14 1.76
* SS15 1.51

still only at rc2 speed.

[focus206]

Tanak super fast today. Tomorrow it could be a great battle for 2nd, but if it's true what they say that it will be super tricky and full of ice, there could be surprises.

[EstWRC]

Tanak super fast today. Tomorrow it could be a great battle for 2nd, but if it's true what they say that it will be super tricky and full of ice, there could be surprises.

Then Tänak will lose a lot again. He said today at mid service that when the conditions get tricky then he has no confidence in the car

[Morte66]

Was Tanak on 5 tyres whilst the others ran 6?

[focus206]

Then Tänak will lose a lot again. He said today at mid service that when the conditions get tricky then he has no confidence in the car

It will depend a lot from who will keep it on the road without damages... Ogier can't rest easy either

[Tauri_J]

Was Tanak on 5 tyres whilst the others ran 6?

Nope

[EstWRC]

The last time I saw such a performance from Tänak in Monte was his championship winning year 2019. Then he won all 5 Saturday’s stages and won the day in front of Meeke with 12 seconds.

[dimviii]

Gryazin in front of Rossel again

[doubled1978]

McErlean, loss per km for the stage winner:

Day 1
* SS1 2.94
* SS2 3.02
* SS3 4.65

Day 2
* SS4 1.43
* SS5 cancelled
* SS6 2.07
* SS7 2.42
* SS8 3.53
* SS9 2.63

Day 3 - road position advantage
* SS10 1.05
* SS11 2.68
* SS12 1.55
* SS13 1.42
* SS14 1.76
* SS15 1.51

You didn’t write road position disadvantage on Day 1 and Day 2.
If you are going to try and hammer him, at least be fair about it.
I think the last loop today he didn’t have an advantage, I just think he found a bit of rhythm and the conditions were more stable compared to the previous days.

[doubled1978]

Tanak has been tremendous this afternoon. I think I put him to win on the picks…
Go Tanak! ��

Ogier should have enough in hand, but Mike Chen seemed pretty confident there would be plenty of black ice about tomorrow morning…should be interesting.

[linni]

Fire the drone operator, donate the drone to Ukr army and drop the annual subscription back to 99 euros.

["Username"]

Tanak has found the right setup only for the dry tarmac. But that doesn't mean others will be lost forever. Tomorrow will be a struggle like friday.

[Morte66]

Gryazin in front of Rossel again

Yay. :)

At end of SS14 Rossel said "I have a small issue with the throttle, in slow corners it's not easy. Not easy to drive with this issue."

Gryazin seemed a little bit faster than Rossel when they were both without issues, but maybe Rossel isn't pushing since Gryazin is not entered for points.

[Eli]

The last time I saw such a performance from Tänak in Monte was his championship winning year 2019. Then he won all 5 Saturday’s stages and won the day in front of Meeke with 12 seconds.

You took the words out of my mouth, just what I was thinking…

[rallyfiend]

This "live command center" looks quite nonsence for me. Instead they should make properly working "spectators center" with proper timing and all informations around. Technological quality of wrc.com website and whole service around is disaster for many years and still no changes...

Apparently the teams have brand new data terminals in their offices and are getting live data from the cars. I guess maybe they're testing new things before rolling it out?

Haven't seen any pics of this things anywhere, but maybe we'll see them when they have cameras in there for the Power Stage tomorrow?

[Yugo_para_siempre]

I believe that likely someone should have already mentioned it.

The livery of Pajari's Yaris is way better than the official one.

I would have like this to be the official.

[PLuto]

Apparently the teams have brand new data terminals in their offices and are getting live data from the cars. I guess maybe they're testing new things before rolling it out?

Haven't seen any pics of this things anywhere, but maybe we'll see them when they have cameras in there for the Power Stage tomorrow?

I dont know, maybe. I am now saying from perspective of me as spectator.

[Peperoma]

Any idea, how will looks tomorrow stages?

[CeskyOndra]

Right now it is already raining in Gap area and it will be raining all the night, maybe snowing in the morning, and its about 3 degrees celsius above zero rn. Temperatures are expected to drop down to atleast -2 degrees from 5AM to 7AM.

[stavrosGDB]

As an owner of black STi,i will go with the black sheep route and i will admit that i like the the gazoo racing wrt1 livery better compared to wrt2 :)

[CeskyOndra]

Hyundai fined by 10.000 euro for driving with only 3 wheels rotating of crew #1 at road section after SS6.

[saco0o]

10:14 in this video. showing the car reeeeally distant. the SOUND! aaaaah *__*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8H1dpDxMgk

[focus206]

Hyundai fined by 10.000 euro for driving with only 3 wheels rotating of crew #1 at road section after SS6.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuville-fined-but-escapes-time-penalty-for-wheel-violation/

I don't understand, first they write this:

"Seven minutes after Neuville departed the stage six finish control, the left-rear wheel ceased to rotate – two minutes later FIA Technical Delegate Jerome Toquet informed Hyundai this was the case and a further two minutes later, on receiving that message from his team, Neuville pulled over to fix the wheel."

Which sounds like Neuville started the road section with 4 rotating wheel, so I assumed Neuville repaired it immediately after SS6. But then the stewards are quoted saying that Neuville wasn't aware one of his wheels wasn't rotating after the crash... so Neuville didn't repair anything at the start of the road section, the broken wheel was able to rotate?

[PLuto]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuville-fined-but-escapes-time-penalty-for-wheel-violation/

I don't understand, first they write this:

"Seven minutes after Neuville departed the stage six finish control, the left-rear wheel ceased to rotate – two minutes later FIA Technical Delegate Jerome Toquet informed Hyundai this was the case and a further two minutes later, on receiving that message from his team, Neuville pulled over to fix the wheel."

Which sounds like Neuville started the road section with 4 rotating wheel, so I assumed Neuville repaired it immediately after SS6. But then the stewards are quoted saying that Neuville wasn't aware one of his wheels wasn't rotating after the crash... so Neuville didn't repair anything at the start of the road section, the broken wheel was able to rotate?

According to stewards decision, Neuville didnt know that car is damaged so heavily and continued with NOT rotating the wheel. Only after information from scrutineer/team, he stopped and fixed it.

[Steve Boyd]

This "live command center" looks quite nonsence for me. Instead they should make properly working "spectators center" with proper timing and all informations around. Technological quality of wrc.com website and whole service around is disaster for many years and still no changes...

Apparently the teams have brand new data terminals in their offices and are getting live data from the cars. I guess maybe they're testing new things before rolling it out?

Haven't seen any pics of this things anywhere, but maybe we'll see them when they have cameras in there for the Power Stage tomorrow?The announcent said that the data came from the cars via a LTE(4G) data connection - i.e. by the mobile phone networks.

It will work great when they test the system but when they try to use it in a stage full of spectators all using their mobile phones to upload clips to their Instagrams it will be very unreliable.

[TypeR]

Imagine Neuville being DNF'd in Monte-Carlo for such a little thing.. ain't gonna happen. No way he didn't know the car was damaged badly.

Hyundai seems to get away pretty easily lately..
They used that , we will leave'' card again? :D

From DF story, the stsrt of SS16 is wet

[EstWRC]

Hankook still hasn’t posted the tire choices. Reading the stage description from their site it seems there will be chaos today

[CeskyOndra]

Hankook still hasn’t posted the tire choices. Reading the stage description from their site it seems there will be chaos today

Yeah and thats from the night when it was much warmer there

[Lead]

And delayed again...

[CeskyOndra]

And again, delayed.. I was scare of that.. Please no.

[EstWRC]

And delayed again...

Problems with 0 car. They are sending a new one again

[CeskyOndra]

Black ice? :))

[Morte66]

Damn it, I got up at 05:00 for this. ;)

[rallyfiend]

Cold tyres for the first cars now…..

[Rallyper]

Morning guys. It´s early and delayed...

[CeskyOndra]

Temperatures are still dropping

[TypeR]

SS16 started

[PLuto]

Problems with 0 car. They are sending a new one again

I dont know what problem, but original 0 didnt started and stayed on the start.

[EstWRC]

Don’t see any of the standing water that hankook mentioned….

[Kras]

I was promised ice :(

[PLuto]

I was promised ice :(

It was raining over the night. And no temperature below zero...

[KKS]

Rallying in the night is love🥰

[Kras]

Ogier messed up the tyre choice...

[Lead]

What are spectators are doing lol amateurs

[CeskyOndra]

Ice is coming guys!!! Totally black ice , couldnt do anything

[Kras]

Must be frustrating sliding like that at 10kph

[erikli2]

Taka must be stuck on a stone or something

[KKS]

https://hankook-recce.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/R1-Tyre-Choice-Section-6.jpeg

[KKS]

Massive off for Sami ��

[Morte66]

Oof. Welcome to the big leagues, Sami.

[jonkka]

Pajari off too.

[Negaiss]

Pajari hit the front of a guardrail off a bridge dead on. Car fell into the ravine

[Kras]

Deadly stage wow

[Kras]

Tanak impressive so far

[jonkka]

So is Evans, clearly fastest on split 3.

[EstWRC]

Evans and Ogier have had amazing breakfast

[PLuto]

Evans and Ogier have had amazing breakfast

I think they are fast because they are just going to breakfast :)

[EstWRC]

My guess is that the ice has started to break and they have much better conditions.

[Kras]

Ogier and Evans are gonna be stuck with studs for the remaining stages tho

[Tauri_J]

Evans and Ogier have had amazing breakfast

They have 4 studs?

[CeskyOndra]

My guess is that the ice has started to break and they have much better conditions.

Ice is building not breaking, they are just better.

[Kras]

Ice is building not breaking, they are just better.

They have full studs

[Morte66]

OK, I am getting my prayer mat out and praying for ice to suit Elfyn's tyres.

[KKS]

https://hankook-recce.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/WhatsApp-Image-2025-01-26-at-07.22.38_092c60d7.jpg

[Morte66]

Nikolay "Bambi" Gryazin in the stage. Having 3 tyres working is not so great...

[EstWRC]

Ogier and Evans looked pretty nervous for next stages with their tire choices

[KKS]

Supersoft guys have good chanses now

[KKS]

Lucky Neuville now got 2 free positions at overall. Again

[CeskyOndra]

Supersoft guys have good chanses now

Why there wouldn't be ice on the next stage? Its not so far away

[CeskyOndra]

Lucky Neuville now got 2 free positions at overall. Again

And was he lucky that nobody did mistakes in first 2 days or they had some luck?

[PLuto]

Why there wouldn't be ice on the next stage? Its not so far away

Next stage is 100 km far away.

[CeskyOndra]

Next stage is 100 km far away.

OK but still it's in almost similar altitude tho

[Kras]

OK but still it's in almost similar altitude tho

Temps should go up

[PLuto]

OK but still it's in almost similar altitude tho

But completely different valley.

[CeskyOndra]

Temps should go up

I dont think so, right after sun rises it might be the coldest of all day,

[KKS]

Why there wouldn't be ice on the next stage? Its not so far away
Hankook info was wet on ss16 and ss17, but start of ss17 2hours later and sun will shine at that moment and temperature will grow.
Ss17 a bit lower at altitude so maybe even not forming black ice at all. Supersoft will work better than 2ss/2studs. Maybe Ott with 2 snows can benefit on ss17

[EstWRC]

When I’m reading the stage description from hankook site then it seems winter without studs and super soft mix is the best option. But that’s my opinion

[COD]

Slush onnthe last one but temps going up. Interesting. Proper snow on some stages would make Monte much more interesting in general

[CeskyOndra]

Guys the description from Hankook isn't accurate because it's made many hours before the stage in completely different conditions!

[EstWRC]

Guys the description from Hankook isn't accurate because it's made many hours before the stage in completely different conditions!

Yea I know but so far I have noticed that their descriptions sound way worse than the actual conditions

[KKS]

Slush onnthe last one but temps going up. Interesting. Proper snow on some stages would make Monte much more interesting in general
+8 and sun without cloud at Turini when PS was scheduled. I think it will be 90% dry condition

[EstWRC]

+8 and sun without cloud at Turini when PS was scheduled. I think it will be 90% dry condition

Then Fourmaux and Kalle will be the guys to beat with 4 super softs

[CeskyOndra]

+8 and sun without cloud at Turini when PS was scheduled. I think it will be 90% dry condition

It will be wet, forest parts won't dry and there are some sections with snow or slush.. But yeah, studded tires are not the option probably..

[KKS]

Fresh Turini webcam
https://webcams.ventusky.com/data/04/344272404/hour/20250126_0700.jpg?1737874951

[EstWRC]

Stage will start 8.44 local

Delayed 12 minutes

[KKS]

It will be wet, forest parts won't dry and there are some sections with snow or slush.. But yeah, studded tires are not the option probably..
Will see. In next few hours condition should improve

[CeskyOndra]

Fourmaux still in the game for 2nd If he has a bit of luck with conditions tho.

[Kras]

Missing the Pirelli Super Mario guy.

But it's already obvious that Hankook is a better tyre

[Eli]

Just watching now the previous stage, quite a shunt by Pajari, should’ve taken it a bit more carefully.

[EstWRC]

So far I would say it’s super soft stage

[PLuto]

But it's already obvious that Hankook is a better tyre

Why do you think?

[Kras]

Sucks

[KKS]

Some nasty wet patches

[jonkka]

And Munster off... Now they start piling, those offs.

[EstWRC]

So far I would say it’s super soft stage

Kalle alrady 5 seconds quicker in first split

[meh]

Waking up a bit later, and 3 rally1 cars gone.

[WRC1]

Missing the Pirelli Super Mario guy.

But it's already obvious that Hankook is a better tyre

i just wanted to write how nice it is to hear a "normal" english speaking guy talking about the tires i like Hankook already now

[Tauri_J]

Tänak will be handicapped with only 2 slicks.

Weird choice to be honest, but lets see.

[bandit12]

And Munster off... Now they start piling, those offs.

Fck, such a shame.

[CeskyOndra]

Softs are the right tires to be on

[KKS]

Could it be win for Fourmaux? ��

[EstWRC]

Tänak will loose 2 places with this stage

[meh]

And at the end Rovanperä is on the podium I guess

[Kras]

What is Tanak doing?

[Rallyper]

Timing not working properly...

[EstWRC]

What is Tanak doing?

The tires aren’t working and he isn’t confident in these conditions

[CeskyOndra]

Winter tires cant be that bad on this stage, Tanak way to careful, it was clear to see

[Tauri_J]

Terrible terrible tyre choice

Say goodbye to sunday/PS points

[Kras]

Winter tires cant be that bad on this stage, Tanak way to careful, it was clear to see

And he'll end up fifth with 1-2 points on powerstage. What a waste

[CeskyOndra]

Evans on studded tires is way faster than Tanak on winters, studded can't better there

[Kras]

Massive choke by Tanak. Can't believe it

[EstWRC]

Massive choke by Tanak. Can't believe it

He is officially the most terrible tyre choice maker in the series.

[CeskyOndra]

Ogier slow

[Eli]

Ott screwed with that tyre choice…5th best case scenario…

[Kras]

He is officially the most terrible tyre choice maker in the series.

I mean, Evans is 10 sec faster on even worse tyres...

[CeskyOndra]

Ogier so slow at the top, If Turini is dry, Fourmaux wins

[Eli]

Do they finish (stupidly) the Col de turini like last year?

[PLuto]

Do they finish (stupidly) the Col de turini like last year?

Not directly on the top, they continues to Peïra Cava.

[KKS]

What a rally ��