88. Rallye Automobile de Monte-Carlo 2020

[dupanton]

With the things I read, I would go with 4 super softs + 2 (studded) snow tyres.
SS1 on 4x SS, SS2 on crossed SS and studs

[PLuto]

With the things I read, I would go with 4 super softs + 2 (studded) snow tyres.
SS1 on 4x SS, SS2 on crossed SS and studs

With the things I read, the best option will be to stay at home at computer, open beer, take popcorn and watch the show ;-)

[dupanton]

With the things I read, the best option will be to stay at home at computer, open beer, take popcorn and watch the show ;-)

I would prefer to be in the hot seat on the stages :)

[er88]

Tanak does sound confident and happy with the car, saying it feels strong and good on the tests. However Loeb has said similar in the last and the speed hasn't been there on the tarmac so we will see.

[doubled1978]

More on this...
https://www.wrcwings.tech/2020/01/22/evolved-rear-diffuser-for-the-hyundai-i20-coupe-wrc-in-monte-carlo/

Interesting....I know out of the opinions offered for not running it in that article what my money would be on.

[Ucci]

With the things I read, the best option will be to stay at home at computer, open beer, take popcorn and watch the show ;-)

And by far the cheapest option:)

[cali]

Interesting....I know out of the opinions offered for not running it in that article what my money would be on.aand that would be.....

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[EstWRC]

Tanak does sound confident and happy with the car, saying it feels strong and good on the tests. However Loeb has said similar in the last and the speed hasn't been there on the tarmac so we will see.

so im not the only one seeing it...i havent seen him so happy since, well...i cant even recall

since the first test with Hyundai or around that time in every interview to estonian media or some other footage the guy just cant hide his smile. If its that the environment is in Hyundai much better, or the car is actually better than he thought, or it finally has hit him that he is a WRC champ, i dont know. He seems to be getting on very well with Adamo though.

We will be much smarter Sunday afternoon.

[dupanton]

Even more interesting, extract from an interview (translated in French):

Neuville: There are a few changes on the car like the central exhaust
Interviewer: No, the cars had their exhausts on the right in shakedown
Neuville: No no. On which cars?
Interviewer: On all tree
Neuville: No, that would suprise me. Normally they are in the middle I think. I 've seen it.
Interviewer: You will see
Neuville: Maybe just on 1 car than?


Suprising that he doesn't even know :p :p

[mknight]

They used the central exhaust setup and nothing else during both sets of tests with a month between them.

Therefor homologation issues is imo the only option out of those listed that makes sense.

[EstWRC]

see? again smiling :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO-bKtRWsAI4BWD?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Kristian Sohlberg
@Krisse_Sohlberg
·
9m
If I have understood it correct ss1 is mainly dry, some black ice maybe, SS2 will be very snowy/icy over 50% and on a downhill section?! Gravel crews have a big part but also weatherguys!

What would be your tyre choice? #tyrechoice #wrc #monte #lottery #gambling #whoisright

[er88]

see? again smiling :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO-bKtRWsAI4BWD?format=jpg&name=largeIs Ogier on his tip toes? :D

[AnttiL]

Is Ogier on his tip toes? :D

They are standing on the start ramp

[Eli]

Is there any way to see the ceremonial start?

[doubled1978]

aand that would be.....

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Made it understeer again.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

With the things I read, the best option will be to stay at home at computer, open beer, take popcorn and watch the show ;-)


I would prefer to be in the hot seat on the stages :)

Me too. This is the nearest I can get though... :(

https://i.imgur.com/jhKEjoV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mKgrzES.jpg

[mknight]

Made it understeer again.

If that was the case they'd know after the first 3 day test and change it to the setup for monte for the next test a month later.

[dimviii]

so im not the only one seeing it...i havent seen him so happy since, well...i cant even recall

since the first test with Hyundai or around that time in every interview to estonian media or some other footage the guy just cant hide his smile. If its that the environment is in Hyundai much better, or the car is actually better than he thought, or it finally has hit him that he is a WRC champ, i dont know. He seems to be getting on very well with Adamo though.

We will be much smarter Sunday afternoon.

i wanted to write the same as you.Yes i have mention that too,since he left Toyota.

[doubled1978]

If that was the case they'd know after the first 3 day test and change it to the setup for monte for the next test a month later.

Maybe, or maybe they thought they had a solution for the second test and it didn’t work...
Who knows what the real reason is, let’s see when we see it again.

[dimviii]

at 2,42 Solberg small exit of road

https://youtu.be/KpkxbRA2-j0

[dimviii]

Unbeaten on "his" rally since 2014, the Gapençais knows that a big fight awaits him against the infernal trio from Hyundai, Thierry Neuville, Ott Tanak and Sébastien Loeb.

"Changing the environment before Monte-Carlo is becoming a habit," reacted Sébastien Ogier at the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, the RTBF's special envoy to the south of France. This is a new challenge, a new Our opportunity this season is to go back to battle and go after the title we lost last year. We’re going to approach this Monte-Carlo with a lot of humility, because we don't really know what to expect, both in terms of the car and the conditions. Of course, the objective is to fight at the front, but if you don't is not, it will not be a tragedy. It can happen! We will do as always: trust instinct, and give our best. If we feel good in the car and we are able to fight for victory, we will do everything for. "

"I still think that 2020 will be my last season, it's my plan, it hasn't changed, resumed the six-time World Champion. But it will probably not be my last Monte-Carl ', because it remains a Race so dear to my heart that I cannot exclude the possibility of doing it again one day. But I do not ask myself this kind of question when I start this season. I am focused on my goals: to adapt as soon as possible to the Toyota Yaris WRC and try to fight for the title. Here, the N.1 strategy will be to avoid the traps, and if the conditions become more constant, we will have to attack and go quickly, because the gaps are small here. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_ogier-ma-derniere-saison-en-wrc-mais-probablement-pas-mon-dernier-monte-carlo?id=10414302

[dimviii]

Many of you sent your questions to us via our RTBF Sport Facebook page, and Olivier Gaspard, RTBF's special envoy to Monte-Carlo, selected five.

Here are Thierry Neuville's answers to your questions…

Question from Jonathan and Eric: What are the main changes made to the Hyundai between the last rally in 2019 (Catalonia in October, note) and the Monte-Carlo?

"With the end of year celebrations and the closure of the factory, it's always difficult to improve a lot during this period. But we still worked, we took the opportunity to improve the background a little flat, we have a different exhaust outlet, with a slightly modified rear diffuser… and other little details that we can't really talk about! But there aren't huge changes either. not what they did on the Toyota side, but we are hopeful to be in the game here as was the case last year. "

Eric's question: All of Belgium is waiting for a World Champion title, does that put you under pressure?

"Pressure, no. We know that we are among the best. We managed to get ahead of Sébastien Ogier last year, but in the end, Ott was better. In the middle of last season, he was super-efficient, no one could go looking for him, and he has linked the victories. But we keep the same rhythm, the same motivation, and we really want to win. But it's very difficult! "

Question from Brigitte: Which opponent do you fear the most this season?

"It's early to say, but on paper, Sébastien Ogier remains the best. We will have to face him, and he has a new car (the Toyota Yaris WRC, editor's note) which has been very efficient in recent years. And then, Ott joined our team, but it will undoubtedly allow us to still evolve and learn things, I will try to be in front of him as often as possible. "

Question from Jean-Marie: Isn’t it a disavowal, a lack of confidence in you to see Ott Tanak arrive at Hyundai?

"Absolutely not, it is above all a proof of the brand's commitment. At Hyundai, the more we advance, the more we invest in the rally. It is rather a good sign! And since we have our new boss, Andrea "Adamo, we want to win everything. So we are optimizing our chances. After that, it will be him or me for the title, or both, we'll see! The important thing for the brand remains the Manufacturers' title."

Question from Laurent: What makes the Monte-Carlo so complicated?

"A Monte-Carlo on dry roads would be much less complicated than what has been the case in recent years, with changing conditions and ultra-difficult tire choices! This year, it has melted a lot in recent days, conditions have changed a lot since the reconnaissance, so we don't really know what awaits us now. We should know more this afternoon.

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_le-desaveu-tanak-la-pression-belge-les-evolutions-thierry-neuville-repond-a-vos-questions?id=10414295&fbclid=IwAR2yXlXm8NDAgVzz4K6rz4L1okPVeMuO0H4j6bzmC vfru-qvHTaKy9_a9MY

[EstWRC]

how does he know what improvements Toyota made?

[Tarmop]

Well, they were probably tested by Tänak already...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO-6GB2XkAAXK74?format=png&name=medium

[er88]

When are they making the tyre choice?

Edit - presume they've already made it but no news yet.

[EstWRC]

From the map it seems they are changing now. At least Ott and Thierry have stood still for some time now. Evans and Ogier approaching

[SubaruNorway]

Remote service now at 19:45

[mknight]

Obligatory:
https://youtu.be/eS0sT9P4ZQg?t=27

[dimviii]

ss2

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO_RVQuWAAAU5Jz?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[AnttiL]

Still no tyre choices?

[Allez Andruet]

So here we go! May the best man win.

[T16]

Fast and safe all.

[mknight]

Ogier: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Sport Super Soft (SS)+ 2S
Evans: 3SS1+1S + 2A4CL
Rovanperä: 4SS+ 2A4CL
Katsuta: 4SS+ 2A4CL
Tänak: 3SS + 3S
Neuville: 4SS + 2S
Loeb: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Sport Super Soft + 2 Soft
Suninen: 2SS + 2S + 2A4CL
Lappi: 2SS + 2S + 2A4CL
Greensmith: 2SS + 2S + 2A4CL

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pure sound live ... bliss ! :cool:

[KKS]

no spilts again! Every Monte starts with this lag! Agrrr!

[krissucool]

No splits in Wrc.com?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Split - Ogier faster by 2.5s

[Essaj]

Ogier is flying

[mknight]

splits work only on live maps

[Fast Eddie WRC]

splits work only on live maps

No on website too.

[KKS]

splits work only on live maps
now on site they work too

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville slow to Tanak !

[MTA]

Puncture?

[Rallyper]

seemed a lot of understeering for Neuville.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No Evans splits ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

GOgier !

[krissucool]

Suninen snailing it.

[steve.mandzij]

Hey ho Elfyn!

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans flying !!!

Was, lost time now.

[steve.mandzij]

How long has Toyota been using Schuberth belts? I remember then using Takata belts before.

Also, the Fiestas well off the pace at the early splits. Suninen with a water temperature warning on the dash.

[erikli2]

Water temperature 125 degrees for Sunninen?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Teemu must have a problem...

Front full of leaves :(

[EstWRC]

Nice beginning Ott. Didn’t expect this

Fastest in the second part of the stage

[steve.mandzij]

Teemu must have a problem...

Front full of leaves :(The car stalled twice at stage end too.

Now Lappi with high temps!

[KKS]

stupid stage-end girl

[T16]

Amazing by Evans. Might have the best tyres for stage 2 too. Overnight leader?

[Allez Andruet]

Lappi having same issue!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What a shame for the M-Sports... :(

[mknight]

Rovanpera faster than Loeb in his first tarmac stage on first 2 splits..

[er88]

What a shame for the M-Sports... :(Amateur hour with them.

[Rallyper]

Well, when constructing you think of no leaves...

[KKS]

bucket with bolts that Fiestas!

[erikli2]

It's fascinating that no matter how much PET you do, new issues are always found during the rallies. This stage is just 17 km, imagine how many k's M-Sport have done before this event without that warning showing up.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go Kalle !

[Rallyper]

We should count times after both stages tonight. It´s tyre choice time!

[dimviii]

Well, when constructing you think of no leaves...

if you watch photos ,already at shakedown fiesta collected leaves only at lower part of bumper

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All collected leaves on SD
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO5Vrf_UYAAPGAM?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO5VvQaVUAATzig?format=jpg&name=large

[COD]

Now Greensmith with same issue. Ford front collecting leaves like a vacuum. Bad design

[KKS]

3 Fiestas on stage - 3 same problems. It's a disaster with prepare for the season

[Rallyper]

All three MSport Fiestas... :/ :/

[er88]

3 Fiestas on stage - 3 same problems. It's a disaster with prepare for the seasonIt's an absolute joke. Disgraceful

[KKS]

Now Greensmith with same issue. Ford front collecting leaves like a vacuum. Bad design
Never happen 3 yrs before

[TheFlyingTuga]

Sorry, but this seems a lot stranger. The front of the Fiesta is the same design as last year. It should be something else. Bad gasoline?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

GG with same problem but doesnt know.

[BigWorm]

Flashbacks to 2003 Sanremo

[steve.mandzij]

GG with same problem but doesnt know.He was the rudest of the three, surprisingly.

Also stage end woman needs work.

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[Rallyper]

Man! She is so .... that girl.

[erikli2]

Feels like that small part of the grill of the Fiesta can be blocked by snow as well if cutting some snow banks in Sweden..

[mknight]

Well if watching Al Quassimi was bad.. this is a whole new level

[KKS]

Feels like that small part of the grill of the Fiesta can be blocked by snow as well if cutting some snow banks in Sweden..
Snow in Sweden 2020??? Don't think so :D

[dimviii]

All collected leaves on SD


yes,but at fiesta is completely blocked the lower part,other cars had leaves but they werent completely blocked.
If at this part is radiator for engine is a problem.Of course maybe the problem is elsewhere.

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rallye_automobile_de_monte_carlo_2020/hfr_dsc_6959.jpg

[ipe]

Sad day for Finland... Well Kalle is doing great so whatever!

[Rallyper]

"Where did you loose time..."!!??? Does she know anything that stage end girl???? :(:(

[Rallyper]

Snow in Sweden 2020??? Don't think so :D

we haven´t seen that yet. Or not... ;)

[KKS]

Fourmaux doing well so far. Good times for Mk2

[Sulland]

Who is the splendid end of stage interviewer on SS1?

and they need to give at least all the Wrc2 teams coverage!!!

[itix]

The stage end interviewer is absolutely terrible :(
Where's Molly?

[mknight]

The stage end interviewer is absolutely terrible :(
Where's Molly?

Maternity leave

[KKS]

The stage end interviewer is absolutely terrible :(
Where's Molly?
Citroen Racing media girl >_>, what you expect from her...

__
Molly perhaps now a young mom.

[dimviii]

M-Sport
@MSportLtd
·
7m
ℹ️
SS1: Overheating issues for our Fiestas through the opening stage - dry leaves preventing airflow through the grill
��
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#WRC #MSPORTERS

[SubaruNorway]

The stage end interviewer is absolutely terrible :(
Where's Molly?

Commentating on Eurosport Norway and taking care of a 1 month old girl :)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO_eRx0X0AQBLR9?format=jpg&name=900x900

lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO_TZB6X0AA1Umu?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Tarmop]

Lets see, Jocius` pace could be explained by other 3 having problems. Not that i expect him to compete with other RC1 crews, but R5s...

[Sulland]

What about the rest of the Fiesta front grille, does it not get cooling there as well?

[Rallyper]

Oliver got three minutes gap in the start

[Allez Andruet]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO_TZB6X0AA1Umu?format=jpg&name=900x900

Who would have thought that Hänninen's 2019 fan gear was reusable?

[dimviii]

Camilli fasteratthe end.Lopez faster than him at splits but havent finished yet.Out of road?

[mknight]

Camilli fasteratthe end.Lopez faster than him at splits but havent finished yet.Out of road?

He's stopped on map.

[Rallyper]

Camilli fasteratthe end.Lopez faster than him at splits but havent finished yet.Out of road?

Lopez was too fast... ;)

Let´s hope of restart.

[Sulland]

What about the rest of the Fiesta front grille, does it not get cooling there as well?

[doubled1978]

What about the rest of the Fiesta front grille, does it not get cooling there as well?

Not enough clearly.

[dimviii]

What about the rest of the Fiesta front grille, does it not get cooling there as well?

which are the rest of fiestas?

[KKS]

Monte RC2, first Fabia R5 - only 13th. Not quite usual stuff

[flat_right]

Fiesta Fix is easy. Here you can see how they solved the same issue when Markko Märtin had it in 2003

1914

https://youtu.be/AHceJXbiBns?t=706

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Flashbacks to 2003 Sanremo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO_o9wrX4AgQU0V?format=jpg&name=medium

[Fast Eddie WRC]

which are the rest of fiestas?

The rest of it's front grille...

https://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/upfudd7.jpg

"A look at the front cooling arrangement on the Ford reveals a surprisingly exposed main cooler visible through the lower duct"

[Essaj]

This is pretty mad :eek: https://twitter.com/PeAChapaRacing/status/1220454914075385868

[dimviii]

The rest of it's front grille...

https://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/upfudd7.jpg

"A look at the front cooling arrangement on the Ford reveals a surprisingly exposed main cooler visible through the lower duct"


as you can see most of radiator is at lower part,probbly not enough the upper part when the downside part is completely blocked.

[BigWorm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO_o9wrX4AgQU0V?format=jpg&name=medium

Yep, that one. Remember they drilled some holes or something like that under the lip

[RS]

Still strange this has not been an issue before when this is the 4th year for this car?

[dimviii]

from French forum

Problem with the spectators on the 2nd risk of cancellation according to the commissioners and the gendarmes next to me piss off ��������

[erikli2]

The rest of it's front grille...

https://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/upfudd7.jpg

"A look at the front cooling arrangement on the Ford reveals a surprisingly exposed main cooler visible through the lower duct"

The upper part of the grille is probably the intake for the combustion air (air into the engine).

[KKS]

Fiesta's killer
http://i.piccy.info/i9/c962d3e257a39227d4fcf28e4c600c06/1579814615/8518/1358559/5556.jpg

[SubaruNorway]

Radiator at the bottom and intercooler at the top i think?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fiesta's killer
http://i.piccy.info/i9/c962d3e257a39227d4fcf28e4c600c06/1579814615/8518/1358559/5556.jpg

Damn global warming - those leaves should've dropped and gone months ago. :(

[Essaj]

Starts hairpin section is filled with people, dang! what a atmosphere!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Smoke from flares is a bit thick in place.

[mknight]

Is it just me or Tanak's onboard looks like he is pushing 200%... and then Neuville smooth and controlled?

[KKS]

Is it just me or Tanak's onboard looks like he is pushing 200%... and then Neuville smooth and controlled?
complete opposite

[dimviii]

Radiator at the bottom and intercooler at the top i think?

yes

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier slower

[Rallyper]

No splits on WRC.com...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No splits on WRC.com...

Nope. On the maps part though.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville smashing it.

[EstWRC]

Neuville showing now his confidence with familiar car

[KKS]

Neuville more brave on icy stuff!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great to be able to hear the calls of the co-driver without the comms talking all over it. Calling the ice and snow..

[HaCo]

Following the action live.., here, so keep comments coming.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Smoke from flares is a bit thick in place.

Ott agrees.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WOW Thierry... chapeau !!

[er88]

Statement of intent from Thierry. Have that!

[BigWorm]

Bravo Thierry

[KKS]

Go Thierry!!! wow!

[doubled1978]

That’s a time. Impressive

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lappi & Suninen slow again...

[HaCo]

WOW, still a long way to go.

[cali]

Suninen out

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[HaCo]

Complete disaster for M-sport :-(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ah no Teemo.

[cali]

Complete disaster for M-sport :-(Unfortunately yes

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[steve.mandzij]

This new WRC app is the WORST thing I have ever come across. Ugly, confusing and downright clunky and annoying to use.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Thierry Neuville
@thierryneuville
·
1m
⏱ SS2 (25,49 km) - 16:23.7
�� Fastest so far, 29.7s up on team mate
@OttTanak


"Very tricky conditions in this one. I was trying to read the road the best I could and not take too much risks. A good stage for us."

[EstWRC]

He was also on another world last year in this stage. Seems he really likes it.

[cosmin_sb]

what a time for Neuville ☺

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport
@MSportLtd

⚠️
@TeemuSuninenRac and Jarmo are stopped on SS2 with a transmission issue. They’ll go no further this evening. #WRC #MSPORTERS

[HaCo]

Suninen out

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Transmission issue

[er88]

M-Sport
@MSportLtd


@TeemuSuninenRac and Jarmo are stopped on SS2 with a transmission issue. They’ll go no further this evening. #WRC #MSPORTERSWhat a bunch of jokers. Bravo Msport, what a disasterclass to start the year

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No car problem for Lappi just slow.

[COD]

No car problem for Lappi just slow.

Could be some problem still from previous stage?

[Rallyper]

Greensmith faster than Kalle...

Long rally to go.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith had a problem now.

[Portimao]

WTF M-Sport. It's a joke.

[KKS]

Fck ya Ford!!! ((((

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ott Tänak
@OttTanak
·
1m
���� SS2 Bayons - Bréziers
�� “I am happy to be alive! That was more of a challenge than I expected.”

1️⃣ Neuville 16:23.7
2️⃣ Ogier +25.5
3️⃣ TÄNAK +29.7
4⃣ Evans +29.9
5⃣ Loeb +46.5

[Sulland]

The upper part of the grille is probably the intake for the combustion air (air into the engine).

While some others have them side by side, dont they?

[KKS]

Mads doing very well on splits, more equal with slow wrc!

[er88]

Imagine "paying" to drive that piece of crap. Msport have robbed their drivers on this event. So so disappointing, wanted to see what those 3 could do...

[denkimi]

still weird to see loeb so slow. 50 seconds down on neuville with the same car and same tyres.

[Rallyper]

Kalle more and more looks like his father twenty years ago... :)

[KKS]

still weird to see loeb so slow. 50 seconds down on neuville with the same car and same tyres.
mb securing place and doing team instruction

[KKS]

no turbo for Gus?

[mknight]

Imagine "paying" to drive that piece of crap. Msport have robbed their drivers on this event. So so disappointing, wanted to see what those 3 could do...

That's what I thought as well... will the "paying" drivers that are fast (like Latvala, Paddon, Breen etc.) now have any interest in MSport if it keeps going like this?

We kind of already got an answer from Latvala and Mikkelsen who were not interested in paying anything at MSport before the season rather opting to sit out most of the season.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Imagine "paying" to drive that piece of crap. Msport have robbed their drivers on this event. So so disappointing, wanted to see what those 3 could do...

It's a pity but no need to throw them under the bus. Early days in the rally never mind the season.

[KKS]

Go! Mads!

[steve.mandzij]

Imagine "paying" to drive that piece of crap. Msport have robbed their drivers on this event. So so disappointing, wanted to see what those 3 could do...Looks like with Shitroen gone the forum needs a new punching bag.

[dimviii]

Guy Wilks
@GuyWilks
·
28m
Thierry has pushed the car hard on the dry and let the car flow without killing it over the ice. Brave and confident
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@thierryneuville
#RallyeMonteCarlo

[mknight]

Looks like with Shitroen gone the forum needs a new punching bag.

Over 2 stages with 3 cars they have:
- all 3 issues on first stage
- 2 out of 3 issues on second with one retirement

So 5/6.... very hard to do worse than that.

[steve.mandzij]

Over 2 stages with 3 cars they have:
- all 3 issues on first stage
- 2 out of 3 issues on second with one retirement

So 5/6.... very hard to do worse than that.After around 3 years of solid private operation and being arguably the most reliable team of the championship, they fuck up once and they're automatically a piece of shit team.

It's hardly fair to knock on them for one cock-up.

[flat_right]

Agreed, they have been super reliable over the years and if you fuck up, do it properly and on the first rally. Boys will definitely gather themselves, do proper analysis and rise from here.

[Rallyper]

Fourmeaux probably puncture.

[dimviii]

Media Zone: Neuville

"The first stage was probably the most easy I have ever done in Monte-Carlo! I knew that my time was okay there and for the second stage my tyre compound was a good choice. I was confident and comfortable, the car was set up quite soft for this evening which worked very well in the tricky conditions. I focussed on reading the road conditions and obviously that worked."

Tänak

"It was hard. We heard from the weather crew that it was freezing and there was quite a lot of black ice, but it was even more challenging than I anticipated. In any car I would have done the same - my plan was always to get through. Of course it is never easy in a new car, but generally it was just my rhythm."

[KKS]

Not the best, but very good splits from Oliver down the field. BTW he starts with 4min gap

[DocMS]

Tonight has showed how much Meeke, latvala & mikkelsen will be missed from this years championship. Take top 5 drivers out off it and the overall quailty is pretty poor.

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[mknight]

Not the best, but very good splits from Oliver down the field. BTW he starts with 4min gap

He should just drive carefully without crashes every other stage like in Wales last year or on SD here. On this stage he is on same speed as Katsuta in WRC and Bonato, which is perfectly fine.

EDIT: He caught that Spanish guy ahead of him even with big gap.

[COD]

Tonight has showed how much Meeke, latvala & mikkelsen will be missed from this years championship. Take top 5 drivers out off it and the overall quailty is pretty poor.

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We are missing one team, not so much individual drivers

[er88]

We are missing one team, not so much individual driversMissing both! Something did feel lacking after watching the first 4/5 drivers through the stage tonight. No Mikkelsen, Latvala, Meeke..., even Paddon, Breen, Ostberg who are all very good drivers. Was hoping one of the Finns could surprise but obviously the Msport cars had other ideas.

Hopefully when we get further into the season things will change when the likes of Latvala and maybe Mikkelsen/ Paddon/ Breen and Meeke (if he gets Portugal or Germany) show up on a few events to add more quality depth to the entry list.

[EstWRC]

So, only surprise for me after the two stages is that it wasn’t Ogier who usually takes advantage of conditions like this. It seems him and Ott need more time in their new cars with conditions like this.

Otherwise all like I expected. Mega time from Neuville on the second one, quite nice lead already for tomorrow.

Tomorrow stages had most the snow if I remember right?

[KKS]

Looks like Evans and Ogier Yaris not setup right for this kind of conditions and makes a confidence troubles for both

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/Sl300QLuIPk

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/Q-6RoV_KH4A

[mknight]

Otherwise all like I expected. Mega time from Neuville on the second one, quite nice lead already for tomorrow.


So you were expecting Evans with essentially same time as Tänak after 2 stages? I certainly wasn't.

[AnttiL]

He was also on another world last year in this stage. Seems he really likes it.

Wasn't run last year. In 2018 Ogier was fastest. In 2017 Neuville was fastest on the first night run, but on the second one wrecked his car. But quite an amazing run this year!

[EstWRC]

Yeah my mess. Why the hell I can’t login to forum from the computer? I put the right username and password but every time it tells those are wrong.

And it doesn’t send me the mail too where I could reset my things.

[TypeR]

Yeah my mess. Why the hell I can’t login to forum from the computer? I put the right username and password but every time it tells those are wrong.

And it doesn’t send me the mail too where I could reset my things.
happens to me every time I try to log in from the phone.. sometimes it takes 3-4x to get in, although it says blocked for 15min or smth..

just try couple of times

[TypeR]

#Tyre info - SS3-SS5

Ogier/Evans/Rovanperä/Katsuta/Neuville/Suninen/Lappi/Greensmith: 2 MICHELIN Pilot Sport Super Soft (SS)+ 4 Soft (S)

Tänak: 3SS + 3S

Loeb: 4SS + 2S

[Rallyper]

Morning guys.

Just saw Ott doing a 360...

[AnttiL]

Very nice consecutive land cameras, for once good job All Live!

[EstWRC]

Spin for Tänak. Damn was very fast so far

[EstWRC]

And even gained against Neuville lol

[EstWRC]

Wow Evans 3 faster

[PLuto]

Morning guys.

Just saw Ott doing a 360...

It was more that 360. It was off.

[AnttiL]

Loeb faster than Ogier at split 2. Rovanperä with slow first split.

[Rallyper]

It was more that 360. It was off.

To an escape road, yes. If that road hadn´t been there...

[AnttiL]

Great run from Evans! But Loeb is faster!

[EstWRC]

Evans the fastest guy in world? :D

[cali]

Road condition getting better car by car? Melting

[er88]

Yeees Evans. What a time! Get in.

[AnttiL]

Greensmith off.

[Rallyper]

Well, well, GG isn´t the man WRC need.

[TypeR]

damn, Gus..

[Marcco]

Old man has awaken :)

[er88]

Road condition getting better car by car? MeltingMuch more dirty for later starters....

[AnttiL]

It's baffling that when Neuville is fast, Tänak and Loeb aren't, and vice versa.

[cali]

It's baffling that when Neuville is fast, Tänak and Loeb aren't, and vice versa.Totally different setups I guess

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[Rallyper]

Man! Puncture for Mads... And problems changing tyre...

[steve.mandzij]

Well, well, GG isn´t the man WRC need.Likeable fella but it's criminal that Greensmith, Katsuta (and dare I mention my beloved Suninen?) have seats this year whereas Mikkelsen, Latvala and Meeke don't.

[Marcco]

It's baffling that when Neuville is fast, Tänak and Loeb aren't, and vice versa.

You can tell by stage end interviews. Some say "it's slippy, I'm happy to get through" while other says "I was focusing... and had a good feeling".
I think it's down to confidence and strategy. Some are seeing opportunity early on, while others playing the long game.

[Tauri_J]

Road condition getting better car by car? Melting

No way

[AnttiL]

Road condition getting better car by car? Melting

Melting slowly, getting more dirty quicker

[Essaj]

Mads can't take the blame. Always wheels or the car that lets him down...:rolleyes:

[MartijnS]

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1220622396526354432 wtf...

[T16]

What a stupid thing to do:

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1220622396526354432?s=21

[swanny]

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1220622396526354432 wtf...

When in doubt... power out.

Except.... in this case <slaps forehead>.

[cali]

When in doubt... power out.

Except.... in this case <slaps forehead>.

Oh dear god...

[er88]

Said it was amateur hour with Msport last night due to their cars, but now it's amateur hour because of their driver(s). What a stupid mistake to make.

I also don't think Suninen should be getting beat by Kalle, considering he had the cleanest road and Kalle was running quite far back in his first start in a WRC car.

[Rallyper]

Maybe they should have hired Tidemand? Some of you guys said that some weeks ago, I do believe.

[EstWRC]

happens to me every time I try to log in from the phone.. sometimes it takes 3-4x to get in, although it says blocked for 15min or smth..

just try couple of times

doesn’t work for me at all, blocked for 15 minutes every damn time. I don’t get it.

[theracingelf]

Likeable fella but it's criminal that Greensmith, Katsuta (and dare I mention my beloved Suninen?) have seats this year whereas Mikkelsen, Latvala and Meeke don't.

Was thinking the exact same thing last night. While I understand money is vital in this sport but it's a world championship and in my opinion Greensmith, Katsuta and Jocius have no business being here.

[Rallyper]

Was thinking the exact same thing last night. While I understand money is vital in this sport but it's a world championship and in my opinion Greensmith, Katsuta and Jocius have no business being here.

Couldn´t tell it better myself!

[TypeR]

it's not so hard to understand that everybody with a fat wallet can drive or buy Fiesta..? Thanks to that M-Sport is running like it is. Gus and Jocius driving or not driving wouldn't make any difference about somebody faster getting the seat.

Katsuta is driving because it's Toyota and the orders come from guys in Japan. Same thing, him driving doesn't ,,take away'' anybody elses seat..
Tidemand isn't top5 contender either, so he would also have to pay for driving..

[Franky]

Was thinking the exact same thing last night. While I understand money is vital in this sport but it's a world championship and in my opinion Greensmith, Katsuta and Jocius have no business being here.

So you are against privateers in WRCars? I can understand the criticism towards Greensmith, but Katsuta is 4th car and Jocius is a privateer having fun.

[MartijnS]

Tanak: https://www.facebook.com/553116428053971/posts/2988478187851104/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e

[BigWorm]

Oh no Tänak! Heavy crash

[Rallyper]

Tanak BIG CRASH!!!!

[T16]

That was huge. Hope they’re ok..

[Jewy46]

Oh dear, huge off

[er88]

Massive crash. Not good

[Rallyper]

That´s it for the weekend for him.

[er88]

Horrible start at Hyundai for Ott

[T16]

Really didn’t like that at all.

[er88]

Neuville was much slower there..., or was he slowed a little by spectators?

[AnttiL]

Damn, I was just off the screen and I can't rewind the stream

[er88]

Damn, I was just off the screen and I can't rewind the streamIt's huge, very high speed

[Eli]

Well he said last night he was lucky to stay alive, he went too fast there, didn't seem confident with the Hyundai....

[irish_tiger]

Massive crash. Not good

In to what ?

[er88]

Much better from Suninen on this stage, good to see

[T16]

In to what ?

He ran off a bank flat out and it nose dived into the field.

[Jewy46]

In to what ?

Going from on board he slid off the side of the road on a right hander at very high speed into a field and eventually rolled down the side of a mountain. Would have to see it from outside to confirm exactly

[EstWRC]

wow, that was huge. Neuville was much slower there

i dont even remember when was the last time he had a crash, a while ago

ANtti this was this new mega fast place if i am right?

E:Neuvilel also sayin he is struggling

[MartijnS]

Onboard of the crash: https://twitter.com/SebLoebMLDC/status/1220634796482793472

[er88]

Neuville did slow down a lot. Also saying he struggled a bit with the handling of the car

[T16]

So glad they’re out. Shaking watching that.

[tr4m]

1915 ~164km/h off into what seemed like cart-wheeling, nose to back. Massive.

[EstWRC]

Onboard of the crash: https://twitter.com/SebLoebMLDC/status/1220634796482793472

man so little margins, just a tad too fast

E: Ogier sayin there was a bad compression

[AnttiL]

ANtti this was this new mega fast place if i am right?

Yes, super fast section

[T16]

Evans seems to be maturing like a fine wine. Keep it up son.

[BigWorm]

Enter the lead! Elfyn doing what we expected from him.

[EstWRC]

Onboard of the crash: https://twitter.com/SebLoebMLDC/status/1220634796482793472

look at 5.49, is this the compression Ogier was talking about? lifts the car a little and therefore goes too wide to the right