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EstWRC
16th February 2020, 10:49
Horrible road conditions usually suit Evans.
he has a big lead anyway, nothing to worry, and the conditions are like on wales rally gb which he knows very well
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 10:49
https://sport.postimees.ee/wrc/splittimes
Thanks, Dim.
krissucool
16th February 2020, 10:51
Considering Evans has managed to throw 2 of his 3 leads in the last stage I would be amazed if he would go for a much of a push here in the last stage.
But he has surprised us to this point so lets see.
KKS
16th February 2020, 10:52
Mads has had some mistake on 2nd sector. Bad time there
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 10:53
Well done, Mads!
KKS
16th February 2020, 10:56
Huttunen untouchable now on splits
dimviii
16th February 2020, 10:56
Miika Wuorela
@MiikaWuorela
Record at stake. Will @KalleRovanpera
become today the youngest podium finisher in @OfficialWRC
, beating Evgeny Novikov’s achievement in Rally Portugal 2012..? One rainy stage to do and then we know.
dimviii
16th February 2020, 10:58
Κatsuta stalled
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1229007317963886593
BigWorm
16th February 2020, 11:01
Happy for Huttunen, he deserves this.
KKS
16th February 2020, 11:02
Very good push from Huttunen and nice rally! Well done! Deserved win
dimviii
16th February 2020, 11:06
Κatsuta stalled
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1229007317963886593
Suninen stalled at same corner
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1229008447179567104
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:08
wow Thierrys first split
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:08
Very disappointing event for Suninen. The speed was just not there at any point.
Maybe that off in shakedown affected his confidence more that we realised.
dimviii
16th February 2020, 11:10
Breen same second split as Suninen who had stalled
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 11:11
Neuville on a mission!
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:12
Lappi just 0.2 down in first split!
krissucool
16th February 2020, 11:13
Lappi just 0.2 down in first split!
Where do you get such quick splits?
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:13
Where do you get such quick splits?
wrc+
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:13
Solid job by Breen on his comeback.
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:15
Lappi +0.4 in spl2
mknight
16th February 2020, 11:15
Solid job by Breen on his comeback.
Solid for what? 3rd start in Hyundai WRC, 3x 0 manu points, 2x 7th place and one crash.
Worse than all 3 Hyundais here last year, clearly last this year.
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:16
Woohoo great run Thierry !
krissucool
16th February 2020, 11:17
Come on Kalle Blomqvist!
er88
16th February 2020, 11:17
Lappi doing enough
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 11:18
Solid for what? 3rd start in Hyundai WRC, 3x 0 manu points, 2x 7th place and one crash.
Worse than all 3 Hyundais here last year, clearly last this year.
Solid for not being rallying all rallies he could. Random rallies never get you the top speed.
krissucool
16th February 2020, 11:19
Kalle will eat your kids alive!!!
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:19
Lappi did it!!
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:20
Excellent job by Lappi here, improving as time goes on.
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 11:21
Kalle!!!
er88
16th February 2020, 11:22
Decent rally for Lappi. Suninen under pressure
mknight
16th February 2020, 11:22
Solid for not being rallying all rallies he could. Random rallies never get you the top speed.
4 other drivers at Hyundai have been doing "random" rallies for last 2 years. Breen has done worst of those 5. Yet he gets constantly commented for doing good job... with those 3x 0 points.
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:22
Ogier on a PS push as usual.
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:23
Kalle is goinf or it!
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:24
Stunning speed Kal !!
cali
16th February 2020, 11:24
Well done Kalle!
Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk
KKS
16th February 2020, 11:24
Crazy push and stage from Kalle! Welldone!
mknight
16th February 2020, 11:25
Tommi making fun of sad Neuville and Lappi on tv...
er88
16th February 2020, 11:25
Just hand Kalle multiple drivers championships already :D! Superb
krissucool
16th February 2020, 11:27
Kalle 3rd!!!!
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:27
and Kalle third!
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:27
Tanak's Monte crash had no effect whatever !
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:28
Ogier's lost 3rd.
Ha3aP
16th February 2020, 11:28
F5 is dead ))
KKS
16th February 2020, 11:28
hahahaha))) Wow Young Kalle catch a position from a world champion!
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:29
this is just incredible
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:30
Evans just taking it steady for the win.
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:32
shitty ending from Tänak
er88
16th February 2020, 11:32
Kalle smashes Tanak as well lol. Amazing. Wins the powerstage
er88
16th February 2020, 11:33
Tommi loving it
Tauri_J
16th February 2020, 11:34
Tänak made a mistake, had some damage on car
KKS
16th February 2020, 11:34
First poduim and first power stage win for Kalle in one rally! What a achievement!
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:36
Well done Evans!
total domination
T16
16th February 2020, 11:36
Incredible Evans. Take a bow son.
KKS
16th February 2020, 11:36
Evans win a Swedish Rally 2020! !!!!!!
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:37
haha they must pratice going on the roof more
er88
16th February 2020, 11:37
Get in there Evans!!!! Amazing win, totally deserved
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:37
Yassss ! Rally Sweden WINNER Elfyn Evans !!! :champion:
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 11:38
Good job from Evans. Big congrats!
ipe
16th February 2020, 11:38
Beautiful run by Kalle! Can't remember last time rally felt so good to watch.
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 11:38
Solberg having problems...
T16
16th February 2020, 11:39
I love how proud Gwyndaf is.
mknight
16th February 2020, 11:39
Hard to pick man of the rally between Evans and Rovanpera.
- For Evans I'd say it's his best win, GB was tainted by the tire question
- For Rovanpera it's the best entry to WRC that I remember since Loeb finished 2nd on his first rally and basically won his 2nd.
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:39
Elfyn Evans becomes first British driver to win in Sweden. His second WRC win.
Scott Martin wins his first WRC event.
KKS
16th February 2020, 11:39
Oliver have a good 1st split , but then made some big mistake
If it will be without mistake he could catch Veiby
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:41
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ5ZBz5W4AYy6j6?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ5ZS5JWkAA6_CZ?format=jpg&name=medium
T16
16th February 2020, 11:42
haha they must pratice going on the roof more
I have a feeling they'll get some more chances at practice it as the year goes on.
wia5958
16th February 2020, 11:42
4 other drivers at Hyundai have been doing "random" rallies for last 2 years. Breen has done worst of those 5. Yet he gets constantly commented for doing good job... with those 3x 0 points.
Jeez can you be any more bitter he is there and not your golden boy
KKS
16th February 2020, 11:43
Oliver have a good 1st split , but then made some big mistake
If it will be without mistake he could catch Veiby
From bad to worse +1min at next split
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 11:45
From bad to worse +1min at next split
Puncture...?
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 11:45
Evans to open in Mexico
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ5ZkiHWsAEOcEZ?format=jpg&name=large
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 11:48
Evans to open in Mexico
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ5ZkiHWsAEOcEZ?format=jpg&name=large
Rovanpera just 7 points from Ogier.
Tänak took some nice points back already from Neuville and Ogier
Sulland
16th February 2020, 11:48
Puncture...?
must be, or did he hit something?
hopefully he will make it to the finish.
deephouse
16th February 2020, 11:49
Hope Evans and Rovanpera can maintain that pace. So that possible manufacturers would have many options for title challenger not just average 2nd guys. Kinda hope now Ogier will not retire at the end. More close they are between more fun can we get.
KKS
16th February 2020, 11:52
Kalle Rovanpera
- first podium
- first stage win
- first power stage win
Sweden 2020
AndyRAC
16th February 2020, 11:53
Hard to pick man of the rally between Evans and Rovanpera.
- For Evans I'd say it's his best win, GB was tainted by the tire question
Tainted?? Wrong choice of word, unless he was using illegal tyres....
stefanvv
16th February 2020, 11:54
Mighty victory for Evans, congrats. Deserved something special like this after some slipped away at the end before.
mknight
16th February 2020, 11:54
Hope Evans and Rovanpera can maintain that pace. So that possible manufacturers would have many options for title challenger not just average 2nd guys. Kinda hope now Ogier will not retire at the end. More close they are between more fun can we get.
Didn't Evans just prove your idea about "average 2nd guys" wrong? Last year he had close fights with 2-3 other "2nd" drivers on just about every other rally, sometimes winning, sometimes loosing.
Shouldn't the conclusion rather be that other manus need to step up their pace if they want to fight in the top? (looking at MSport first, Hyundai second)
the sniper
16th February 2020, 11:56
Quite a result overall! Well done to Elfyn and Kalle. Makes things very interesting for the future, ominously so in the case of the long term and Kalle! Hopefully Elfyn gets some recognition in the UK media, hopefully from BBC Wales at least...
Sorry to see Oliver Solberg lost some time/positions.
dimviii
16th February 2020, 12:07
any Finn mates to translate the situation?
https://twitter.com/vaananent/status/1229018918532079618
bassist
16th February 2020, 12:11
Great result Elfyn/Scott, thoroughly deserved. Have a great Season!
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 12:11
any Finn mates to translate the situation?
https://twitter.com/vaananent/status/1229018918532079618
Something like "that guy is annoying..." :) Twitter translation, I´m not finnish enough for ymmärä...
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 12:15
Big congrats to organizer of Rally Sweden for bringing this rally home in a decent way.
Thousandlakes
16th February 2020, 12:17
Rovanperä said first, that my daddy is nervous. Then Lappi said that man (Ogier) is pissed off
Something like "that guy is annoying..." :) Twitter translation, I´m not finnish enough for ymmärä...
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 12:17
Rovanperä said first, that my daddy is nervous. Then Lappi said that man (Ogier) is pissed of
lol, thanks for the translation
dimviii
16th February 2020, 12:18
Michel XV
@rockollector
All main team Toyota drivers that have started a rally in the Yaris #WRC have had a podium.
dimviii
16th February 2020, 12:20
InfoRallyes
@inforallyes
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36m
Mundial de Marcas tras el #RallySweden
Toyota > 73 puntos
Hyundai > 63
M-Sport > 40
Eli
16th February 2020, 12:23
A huge congrats to Elfyn & Scott, just confirms my thoughts after Monte, although it will be hard for them to get a victory in Mexico considering road position, but I truly hope this is a first of many wins this season. Also have to point out, great rally from Rovanpera, have to admit I didn't expect him to be so fast this soon, taking that 3rd place from Ogier on a stage he has never driven before (at least not with a WRC car) taking the fastest time on a stage all of his competitors have done more than once. On a side note, good recovery from Ott, I know it's not the weekend we thought he would have but Evans was in a league of his own and just kept his head down and went on with the job. Still at least Ott & Sebastien will have a better road position that should help both title contenders to get their first win this year. Looking at Adamo during the last stage, he didn't seem too pleased with either Thierry's or Craig's performance this weekend....while Craig, you can somehow be more forgiving with him considering he's not competing regularly and last year he didn't compete here, Thierry has done every event with the Hyundai since the introduction of the car back in 2017....to be blown away by Ott like that.....probably won't do good to your confidence...hopefully he'll be back on pace in the next few rallies...
dimviii
16th February 2020, 12:23
Kalle going wide where Suninen and Taka stalled
https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1229011353408540672
dimviii
16th February 2020, 12:25
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ5RSfOX0AAd-3f?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ5RSfXWsAUowzg?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ4gOxkXUAAnfJA?format=jpg&name=900x900
dimviii
16th February 2020, 12:27
Kalle going wide where Suninen and Taka stalled
https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1229011353408540672
Lappi wide too,tricky place
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1229010435384520704
dimviii
16th February 2020, 12:31
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1228751591810854912/IBysETgc?format=jpg&name=small
Thousandlakes
16th February 2020, 12:33
Have to say that Huttunens performance was absolut stunning. First ever win for Hyundai r5 in wrc. And he did it with old spec car.
BigWorm
16th February 2020, 12:39
Have to say that Huttunens performance was absolut stunning. First ever win for Hyundai r5 in wrc. And he did it with old spec car.
Yes, indeed. Personal top three this weekend:
Evans
Rovanperä
Huttunen
doubled1978
16th February 2020, 12:53
Well I’m glad they didn’t cancel the whole event, it wasn’t a traditional winter event, but it was good....different from the normal, but close race and exciting. I’m sick of people slagging it off, sure it wasn’t what we expect from Rally Sweden, but it was still WRC.
Excellent from Evans, Tanak back in the game, Rovanpera tremendous...outstanding today.
denkimi
16th February 2020, 12:56
I am mighty impressed by rovanpera. Perhaps he is actually as good as youkhi wanted us to believe. Lets hope he can show the same pace on all other rally's too, so we might even have a 5 way fight this year.
Also impressed by evans and tanak, both showing dominant speed.
Weird to see neuville, and especially ogier so slow compared to their team mates.
Rally Power
16th February 2020, 13:04
Hats off for Evans/Martin, Rovanpera/Haltunnen and Toyota! It’s great to have a new crew at the top of the series and even greater to see a young kid beating a 6 times champ in the fairest possible way. Well done!
Btw, any ‘special’ tweet from Mrs. Ogier? One wonders if Citroen was really the one to blame for Ogier loosing his mojo...
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 13:18
Rovanperä said first, that my daddy is nervous. Then Lappi said that man (Ogier) is pissed off
I took mine from twitter directly to swedish. That´s why my answer maybe wasn´t all correct... :(
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 13:21
Hats off for Evans/Martin, Rovanpera/Haltunnen and Toyota! It’s great to have a new crew at the top of the series and even greater to see a young kid beating a 6 times champ in the fairest possible way. Well done!
Btw, any ‘special’ tweet from Mrs. Ogier? One wonders if Citroen was really the one to blame for Ogier loosing his mojo...
This must be the first time Ogier has been totally overshadowed by both of his own team-mates.
He wont give up but he has one hell of a fight on his hands to regain the title this year.
flykas
16th February 2020, 13:33
Strange event, but the outcome is very interesting. I remember the beginning of the last year was the same as the ending of the 2018 seasson, and this year so many changes. Glad to see that Evan's pace in Monte wasn't one time deal. He might be a contender for the title? Rovanpera exceeded the expectations, that was really incredible and makes me real wonder about the upcoming rounds (again). I wonder if road position had to do something with Ogier's and Neuville's lack of pace. Loosing third place to Kalle doesn't look good, but I think it has to do with Ogier's style, he rarely the one to be very aggressive and take the risks and plays the long game, so I think he did pretty good and has a good position going to Mexico.
mknight
16th February 2020, 13:47
Rovanpera had at least two close calls on the PS. Ogier clearly wasn't commited to risk it all. Doesn't mean Rovanpera wasn't impressive.
Anyway Ogier has not had winning pace in Sweden (and Finland) the last 2-3 years and was often beaten by teammates (Tanak Sweden 2017, Suninen (and Evans) Finland 2018, Lappi last year.
I wouldn't make so much drama out of Neuville's pace either. He lost almost all the time on friday when first on the road and on saturday he was one of the first again. On the short stage and PS he was up there.
Old Rally Fan
16th February 2020, 13:55
As for Rovanpera jr. performance – probably everything was said, it is unbelievable. I shouldn’t be wrong in saying that no other driver in the modern history of WRC has ever received such an chance: to be nineteen and to drive for absolutely top manufacture team in the all rounds of championship. If you think about big or at least recognizable names from the last two, three decades, like, let’s say, Loeb, Martin, Solberg (Peter, ofk), Gardemeister, Burns, McRae (I mention only those, who had a relatively quick and early career’s kick-off) – none of them didn’t compete at such a high level at such a young age. And it seems, that he can be a fully versatile driver (contrary to his father, who, by the way, took a solid and impressive Sweden victory in 2001). Kalle Rovanpera’s way of motorsport career is, I would say, the most radical “pedagogical experiment” in the history of rallies, and, at least for this moment, it seems that “experiment” is successful. What “the sky” can be “the limit” for this guy? Hope all will go well with him.
But yes – even in this rally he was close to rolling his car…
denkimi
16th February 2020, 14:13
Lets not forget that after finland 2017, lappi and suninen were the next big thing and were going to win many titles in the future.
deephouse
16th February 2020, 14:20
Didn't Evans just prove your idea about "average 2nd guys" wrong? Last year he had close fights with 2-3 other "2nd" drivers on just about every other rally, sometimes winning, sometimes loosing.
Shouldn't the conclusion rather be that other manus need to step up their pace if they want to fight in the top? (looking at MSport first, Hyundai second)
Geez, just wait. It's his only second win of career. I just say that I wish he will not lose it. Mikkelsen got three freaking wins and where he is now and all with old spec car quite old Polo. With Citroen and Hyundai he didn't get any of them and many thought he will challenge all the time. He just lost it.
I mean it's not too late but quite recently the teams don't give much more chances novadays and rather seeks new talents.
I mean that's good, but if Suninen will not show any large improvement he could be replaced. Like Evans and Tanak were before. And of them is World Champion and the other is on a good way to becoming one. Maybe that "hard school" helps drivers to realize that they need to give everything or are they will be lost.
I wonder where was Greensmith? Is it related to cost (maybe he thought that the event would be cancelled and rather stay at home).
Am, one more question about Huttunen (it's not related to Sweden at all - apologies for that). Why he is listed for last year's Finland for entering with Hyundai Slovenija. It seems that I can't find any specific information about that.
mknight
16th February 2020, 14:40
At end of 2018 after a horrible season where only positive was 3rd in Spain (while Ogier won the championship in same car) most people thought Evans would get kicked forever for 2019. Last year he ended behind the guy what you just said "lost it" and also had much less podiums than Lappi. This year with different car and team he has won and got 3rd from 2 rounds.
Point was that I think most of your so called "2nd rate" drivers can actually fight in the top if they have a car and team that fits them and is up to speed. That doesn't seem to be the case for Msport this year for example
Rally Power
16th February 2020, 14:50
Rovanpera had at least two close calls on the PS. Ogier clearly wasn't commited to risk it all. Doesn't mean Rovanpera wasn't impressive.
How can you be so sure he wasn’t commited to risk? Untill split 2 he was close to Rovanpera time; maybe he ease after it or maybe he had a close call; PS onboard will tell.
Fast Eddie WRC
16th February 2020, 15:05
Classy from M-Sport:
The whole team would like to say a massive congratulations to
@ElfynEvans @scottmartinat and the @TGR_WRC team. Elf, this second victory has been coming for a while and it was a mega performance from you this weekend ! 🙌 #WRC
Old Rally Fan
16th February 2020, 15:10
[QUOTE=deephouse;1243033]
I wonder where was Greensmith? Is it related to cost (maybe he thought that the event would be cancelled and rather stay at home).
Greensmith? Gus? Not at home, was in Sweden, he gave a good performance. But as a member of Red Bull TV team.
dimviii
16th February 2020, 15:18
Karlip
Before podium celebrations there was an incident where some metal constructions collapsed due to strong winds and @TGR_WRC
team member Terhi Heloaho was hit by some debris. Terhi was given medical assistance on-site and taken to hospital for further checkups.
dimviii
16th February 2020, 15:24
Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
·
2h
Not the end we wanted at @RallySweden
with a slow rear-left puncture on the final stage
*♂️
not sure where we got it but that’s rallying!
Still it was a good weekend on our first event with @MotorsportSkoda
- more learning, some fastest stage times and great fans!
dimviii
16th February 2020, 15:34
Planetemarcus
@planetemarcus
·
2h
#WRC 2020 was the fastest #RallySweden ever with 124.30km/h for the winner Evans ► http://bit.ly/39zM8oc
Tarmop
16th February 2020, 15:48
At end of 2018 after a horrible season where only positive was 3rd in Spain (while Ogier won the championship in same car) most people thought Evans would get kicked forever for 2019. Last year he ended behind the guy what you just said "lost it" and also had much less podiums than Lappi. This year with different car and team he has won and got 3rd from 2 rounds.
Point was that I think most of your so called "2nd rate" drivers can actually fight in the top if they have a car and team that fits them and is up to speed. That doesn't seem to be the case for Msport this year for example
You have a timemachine?
dimviii
16th February 2020, 16:07
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ6MPlRXkAAmetD?format=jpg&name=small
masa90
16th February 2020, 16:48
Glad that there was atleast some running. But, I feel like the nice tight and surprising results gave this rally some sort of a pass.
But, due to weather I must say it was pretty much bullshit. Sorry, but a horrible event this year.
Hope they fix it somehow next year, as I love my swedish rally but this year was unacceptable.
Rallyper
16th February 2020, 17:00
Yeah. It was horrible regarding lack of snow. Otherwise it was an average rally for the drivers, however a bit short. Organizers succeded in playing all their aces.
Next year, I´m sure they will have plan B. Glen Olsson indicated in swedish Television they have to have such solution for 2021, keeping Torsby/Karlstad concept. And may it will be blessed. Rally Sweden is here to stay. That´s for sure.
dimviii
16th February 2020, 17:13
in playing all their aces.
and their asses.
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 17:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gZgx0ECPXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdAB9-LvzP4
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 17:37
https://www.upload.ee/image/11139889/Screenshot_20200216-192245_Instagram.jpg
SubaruNorway
16th February 2020, 17:57
My video from Rally Sweden, still lots of good driving and the weather made it interesting in another way.
Shame about the 1st run of Likenäs being cancelled but it wouldn't have been so nice staying in the forest for that many hours in the rain anyway, lucky we didn't get the craziest rain I've seen in a long time and trees faling over the road everywhere on my way home.
https://youtu.be/_dUgFxrqayY
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 18:20
Bunnings video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGrmbxCg3aA
dimviii
16th February 2020, 18:23
Transcript of the post-event press conference organised by the FIA for the 2020 Rally Sweden.
https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-e-evans-car-was-working-well-gave-me-confidence-push
dimviii
16th February 2020, 18:40
Adamo to Huttunens tent
https://twitter.com/SaariJarno/status/1229114438902517760
dimviii
16th February 2020, 18:59
watch how dad look to his son.Very emotional photo!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ62KonXUAMkDxA?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ62KovW4AU19hF?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ62KogWAAE_yBR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
BigWorm
16th February 2020, 19:04
watch how dad look to his son.Very emotional photo!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ62KonXUAMkDxA?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ62KovW4AU19hF?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ62KogWAAE_yBR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Harri Rovanperä looked pretty proud too. That makes 2x ex-SEAT drivers who are very proud tonight
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 19:23
Special M.
@TheSizSilent
·
1h
Evans and Rovanpera already scored same number of podiums as JML and Meeke for whole last season.
Old Rally Fan
16th February 2020, 19:39
Sorry, if stupid question, but who is in the picture, seriously?
krissucool
16th February 2020, 19:42
Sorry, if stupid question, but who is in the picture, seriously?
Elfyn Evans.
Old Rally Fan
16th February 2020, 19:43
Stupid question indeed, sorry, I've already answered myself. Forget it.
dimviii
16th February 2020, 19:44
Sorry, if stupid question, but who is in the picture, seriously?
winner Elfyn with his father Gwydaf Evans,former rally driver
Old Rally Fan
16th February 2020, 19:52
yes, yes, of course. I just missed the description, I don;t know why. Yes, winner of British Championship, sure.
dimviii
16th February 2020, 20:11
Elfyn Evans
@ElfynEvans
When you win your first @OfficialWRC
event... @scottmartinat
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ7LZMSW4AA09jh?format=jpg&name=large
EstWRC
16th February 2020, 20:21
Reigning World Rally champion Ott Tänak has revealed to DirtFish that he wasn’t even sure he would be starting Rally Sweden.
Ahead of the event, Tänak had found it difficult just sitting in a rally car with the belts done up.
He said: “I was a couple of times sitting in some local rally cars trying to tighten the belts and in the beginning it was not really possible but in the end was good.”
https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/tanak-feared-hed-miss-sweden-after-monte-crash/?fbclid=IwAR1pI6u6yJo8tNuuhRXY7z6IE58ORLvjobJ5ykkZ dNnn7ZKKVBS4wBdw4Lg
tcrown
16th February 2020, 20:24
Reigning World Rally champion Ott Tänak has revealed to DirtFish that he wasn’t even sure he would be starting Rally Sweden.Ahead of the event, Tänak had found it difficult just sitting in a rally car with the belts done up.
He said: “I was a couple of times sitting in some local rally cars trying to tighten the belts and in the beginning it was not really possible but in the end was good.”
bruised ribcage
Old Rally Fan
16th February 2020, 20:25
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ6MPlRXkAAmetD?format=jpg&name=small
Interesting record, what might be the comment?
I have two ideas.
1. Apart from Rovanpera, all drivers, who won their first Special Stage “under 20”, belong to the generation, that was born circa 1990. I lost sight of this generation a bit, I had a “gap” in watching WRC. It seems that there is some tendency: drivers reach some level of their careers quicker, than it usually happened in the past (of course there are exceptions). Looking from this perspective, this spectacular activity of young Rovanpera can be seen as the next step of the process.
2. And, for sure, second conclusion: spectacular, early “kick-off” doesn’t guarantee the really great achievements in the next years. So, oki, maybe the fascination with Rovanpera Jr. and his speed should be combined with skeptical reserve.
Anyway, will be great to watch next round in March, probably the first “normal”.
AnttiL
16th February 2020, 20:46
Also notice that Mikkelsen, Wilson and Østberg won super specials. Kalle was 0.1 from doing that in Germany 2018, with an R5 car!
quick
16th February 2020, 20:57
Does anyone have a video clips of a toyota zero car in action?
dimviii
16th February 2020, 21:04
Interesting record, what might be the comment?
I have two ideas.
1. Apart from Rovanpera, all drivers, who won their first Special Stage “under 20”, belong to the generation, that was born circa 1990. I lost sight of this generation a bit, I had a “gap” in watching WRC. It seems that there is some tendency: drivers reach some level of their careers quicker, than it usually happened in the past (of course there are exceptions). Looking from this perspective, this spectacular activity of young Rovanpera can be seen as the next step of the process.
2. And, for sure, second conclusion: spectacular, early “kick-off” doesn’t guarantee the really great achievements in the next years. So, oki, maybe the fascination with Rovanpera Jr. and his speed should be combined with skeptical reserve.
Anyway, will be great to watch next round in March, probably the first “normal”.
Gardemaister was at podium at his first outing with cordoba wrc.
seb_sh
16th February 2020, 21:09
Strange but exciting rally, i'm glad they didn't cancel it. Without going overboard I think the decision to dump JML and Meeke over Rovanpera and Evans was the right one. Evans kind of reminds of Tanak career trajectory. Also I notice that Rovanpera so far learns and adapts within the rally. This could be a very interesting season indeed!
steve.mandzij
16th February 2020, 21:40
Thoroughly impressed with Elfyn, last time someone was this quick out of the box and with respect to their previous season they became world champion and, even then, it took them a few years to dominate the timesheets in such a fashion. Kalle too shone this weekend, showing the speed he's known for and really sending out a warning to the rest of the crews. That said, I expect his first shunt to come soon.
I do want to give Lappi an honorable mention however, for having picked himself out of his recent slump. Last year he was either on the podium or off the pace but now it looks like he's regained some confidence. Solid performances so far in a car that seems like it's starting to lag behind the competition.
As for Ogier, we'll never know if it would have paid off to stick with Citroen and trust their upgrades rather than jump ship to a new team where either he's getting no preferential treatment at all, where his age has begun to show, or where maybe he's just not fit for the machine.
Old Rally Fan
16th February 2020, 21:59
Also notice that Mikkelsen, Wilson and Østberg won super specials. Kalle was 0.1 from doing that in Germany 2018, with an R5 car!
Thanks, I didn't realize. it is important.
BigWorm
16th February 2020, 21:59
No point in writing off Ogier.
Old Rally Fan
16th February 2020, 22:05
Gardemaister was at podium at his first outing with cordoba wrc.[/QUOTE]
It was New Zeland, wasn't it? 1999 - what a wonderful season was that. Toni finished 3rd behind two much more experienced compatriots... Yes, that was impressive. If I remember well, the opinion this time was that Gardemeister is most promising. And than he was rather in the shadow of his peers...
mknight
16th February 2020, 22:09
Kalle too shone this weekend, showing the speed he's known for and really sending out a warning to the rest of the crews. That said, I expect his first shunt to come soon.
That's kind of the normal process, that the new guys first show speed but then start crashing a bit cause they don't have the experience and take some time to get more stable. Kalle kind of already did that last year with Skoda, but might happen again. The only driver that I remember not having such a crashy period after first succeses is Loeb.
I do want to give Lappi an honorable mention however, for having picked himself out of his recent slump. Last year he was either on the podium or off the pace but now it looks like he's regained some confidence. Solid performances so far in a car that seems like it's starting to lag behind the competition.
I agree Lappi deserves praise for the two outings, decent speed (especially compared with Suninen) and no big moments. It's just a shame it's really hard to tell how much is the car limiting him or not. Here he said a few times he had perfect stages and still was around 5th place in SS. Does that mean the car can't go faster or Lappi can't go faster? The car led here last year, but Lappi also did well here both in Toyota (4th) and C3 (2nd).
mknight
16th February 2020, 22:26
In case you haven't seen it yet, some body language from press conf:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ57uCiXYAAH6iv?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
dimviii
16th February 2020, 23:34
1039/5000
"We are losing the lead in the constructors' championship (note: 73 points for Toyota against 63 for Hyundai), so I am not satisfied. In these types of situations, we have again shown a performance limit. Only the performances of Tanak and Neuville have managed to deal with the disadvantage. If we think that it is not possible to compete with Toyota here, it is better to stay at home. What will I say to my team? What will I say to my team "I'm not going to tell you. We already have homologations ready and tests to be done for Mexico. We can't always say that the next rally will be better. In which area should we progress? In that of the car "I said from the first day of taking office that we would not talk about technique. We will not talk about it today even if I am disappointed," said Andrea Adamo, a Hyundai boss who doesn’t was not happy.
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_adamo-fache-que-vais-je-dire-a-mon-equipe-je-ne-vais-pas-vous-le-dire?id=10434083&fbclid=IwAR1KTQOoRk26RJDWQrz8apM4_v8BaaNPabTvy9-itz_wMPpyRssBViBqd_M
steve.mandzij
17th February 2020, 00:17
That's kind of the normal process, that the new guys first show speed but then start crashing a bit cause they don't have the experience and take some time to get more stable. Kalle kind of already did that last year with Skoda, but might happen again. The only driver that I remember not having such a crashy period after first succeses is Loeb.
I agree Lappi deserves praise for the two outings, decent speed (especially compared with Suninen) and no big moments. It's just a shame it's really hard to tell how much is the car limiting him or not. Here he said a few times he had perfect stages and still was around 5th place in SS. Does that mean the car can't go faster or Lappi can't go faster? The car led here last year, but Lappi also did well here both in Toyota (4th) and C3 (2nd).Kalle has always seemed well aware of his limits (let's conveniently forget Argentina 2018), so perhaps he won't find himself in the trees too often, but when I heard him say his times weren't good after being third on the stage in tricky asf conditions I kinda raised an eyebrow.
As for Lappi, surely Suninen's lack of pace is making him look good in the same car, and maybe if he had someone quicker than him in the team hed still be struggling with confidence, but he looks at ease in the fiesta. We'll know for sure after the engine upgrade whether it's lacking in pace or whether Lappi can't get the pace from the car. He's got the speed in him for sure.
skarderud
17th February 2020, 06:46
Rally swedens Glenn olhsson confirms today that next years stages going to be located further north next year.
Probably area of Mora-Trysil-Elverum-Lima?
Godbye to colins crest then.
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Devillersvideo
17th February 2020, 08:30
Sprint Rally... but sprint is always faster than endurance :D
https://youtu.be/3gZgx0ECPXQ
AnttiL
17th February 2020, 08:35
Evans's winning average speed was 124.3 km/h, it's the fourth fastest WRC event ever. Also fastest rally which is not Rally Finland. The fastest Rally Sweden before was 2017, with 115.4 km/h.
AndyRAC
17th February 2020, 09:56
To be honest, it should have an asterisk next to it....with barely half the stages run it's hardly the same as a full event.
AnttiL
17th February 2020, 10:11
To be honest, it should have an asterisk next to it....with barely half the stages run it's hardly the same as a full event.
In a way it's true, since the super fast Hof-Finnskog now made up 25% of the rally route, whereas normally it would have been something like 13%. Then again, the slow Torsby Sprint made up now about 4% of the route whereas normally the three super specials would have made like 2%.
But still the fact is that these conditions were fast.
br21
17th February 2020, 13:26
Huttunen quite lucky to hold his win after two technical breaches were found in his car during final scrutineering. Spoiler position and driveshafts were not OK...
T16
17th February 2020, 14:10
Good interview with the man of the moment and his lovely parents too.
Theres something endearing about Evans and personally, I would much rather him become WDC than Meeke.
https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/elfyn-and-gwyndaf-evans-on-sweden-victory/
dimviii
17th February 2020, 15:29
Αrmstrong incar roll
https://twitter.com/JonArmstrong84/status/1229368093098598401
dimviii
17th February 2020, 15:41
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ6MPlRXkAAmetD?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ-IFXcWoAIFCxT?format=png&name=small
dimviii
17th February 2020, 15:52
i was wondering about the blocked rear fender vents at Toyota.hereis the answer
https://www.wrcwings.tech/2020/02/17/aero-issues-during-rally-sweden-2020/
BleAivano
17th February 2020, 16:09
Rally swedens Glenn olhsson confirms today that next years stages going to be located further north next year.
Probably area of Mora-Trysil-Elverum-Lima?
Godbye to colins crest then.
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I doubt that. They will move the southern most stages to northern most Värmland and maybe Lima but I don't think they will move from Karlstad/Värmland completely.
dimviii
17th February 2020, 17:12
Tell us more, Elfyn: “I feel comfortable with the car, that’s pretty clear.
“The car gives good feedback, but I’ve gone down my own route with a few things – just little tweaks on things. It’s obvious the car’s already fast and very driveable and they have all the good set-ups that you need , but you still have a bit of personalisation.
“I’m at the point where I know exactly what I need from a car and I’m not afraid to go for that car.
“Three years ago with Séb [Ogier] the last time, I would be thinking: ‘Séb wants this, he’s the world champion, so it can’t be wrong…’
“Actually, it’s more about understanding that I’m not here to copy Séb, I’m here to do my own thing.”
https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-transformation-of-elfyn-evans/
EstWRC
17th February 2020, 17:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ73vGzZP2I
dimviii
17th February 2020, 17:42
https://twitter.com/HautamakiTimo/status/1229463700635111426
samzon100
17th February 2020, 17:56
MM-Rally Sweden 13-16.02.2020
EK 3, EK 5, EK 7 ja EK 9
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/MM-Rally+Sweden+02.20/
1928
dimviii
17th February 2020, 18:13
compare
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/MM-Rally+Sweden+02.20/IMG_2678-2-crop.jpg
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/MM-Rally+Sweden+02.20/IMG_2644-2-crop.jpg
AnttiL
17th February 2020, 18:40
compare
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/MM-Rally+Sweden+02.20/IMG_2678-2-crop.jpg
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/MM-Rally+Sweden+02.20/IMG_2644-2-crop.jpg
Almost looks like Evans is pushing the tyres off the rim. That's some difference in suspension stiffness.
dimviii
17th February 2020, 19:06
yes thats what i see from videos,generally the yaris is softer with more leaning,that can extract more grip.
Amazing job from Makinen team and BOS suspension.
skarderud
17th February 2020, 19:49
https://twitter.com/HautamakiTimo/status/1229463700635111426https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VdR9lkwwASk&feature=youtu.be#dialog
It is apparently X-ERC driver Petter Kristiansens father Kristian, and his codriver from those days Ole Christian Brennum that saved Evans day:)
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satukata
17th February 2020, 20:35
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VdR9lkwwASk&feature=youtu.be#dialog
It is apparently X-ERC driver Petter Kristiansens father Kristian, and his codriver from those days Ole Christian Brennum that saved Evans day:)
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What you mean? in this video My brother and my brothers son run to clean the road. Both are Finnish.
EstWRC
17th February 2020, 20:38
Nice little vid from dirtfish again https://www.instagram.com/p/B8rf8ALlOLR/?igshid=6ccnlwcl91ab
mknight
17th February 2020, 20:40
While it's certainly job well done to those that went to clear it saying they "saved Evans victory" is kinda bit of a stretch. If he slowed/stopped seeing it on the road he'd get time back for sure based on onboard.
The only risk was if he crashed (into it or out of the road). Then he'd get nothing as we have seen in Australia 2018 with the tractor.
skarderud
17th February 2020, 20:44
What you mean? in this video My brother and my brothers son run to clean the road. Both are Finnish.Sorry, then it was a joke i got.
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mknight
17th February 2020, 20:44
Almost looks like Evans is pushing the tyres off the rim. That's some difference in suspension stiffness.
Fiesta looks closer to Yaris than to Hyundai in similar situations though. Hyundai just looks like a rigid block, even more so on tarmac.
EstWRC
18th February 2020, 05:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUJQnEfrcUI
tonis_t
18th February 2020, 05:48
Do not know if this has been here already but Evans win saved by spectators. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=74&v=VdR9lkwwASk&feature=emb_logo
Oliverk
18th February 2020, 05:51
Do not know if this has been here already but Evans win saved by spectators. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=74&v=VdR9lkwwASk&feature=emb_logo
Read 5 cm up from your post.
tonis_t
18th February 2020, 06:02
Yeah, I'm extraordinarily blind :(
dimviii
18th February 2020, 15:40
So how good are these studded tyres? Unbelievably, the grip offered by studded tyres on snow is actually superior to that generated by treaded tyres on gravel. On gravel, a World Rally Car will cover about 125 metres as it accelerates from 0-100 kph. On snow, only about 107 metres are needed to get to 100kph. That’s a whole 14% faster, give or take a bit.
https://racingspot.pirelli.com/global/en-ww/race/its-snow-joke-in-sweden
AnttiL
18th February 2020, 16:05
What about studded tyres on frozen gravel? ;)
dimviii
18th February 2020, 16:07
What about studded tyres on frozen gravel? ;)
faster too i guess
mknight
18th February 2020, 16:31
Depends on how hard the gravel is. Some of the stone-hard gravel I saw on Friday had no scratches at all in it after the whole field braked on it from 160 kph. So the studs did not go in at all, in that case it will be slower, like using studded tires on tarmac.
dimviii
19th February 2020, 12:59
Miika Wuorela
@MiikaWuorela
·
3h
”We told FIA that we are ready to bring gravel tyres for some stages. Never got a real answer”. Read it from the next Vauhdin Maailma magazine how Michelin was prepared for Rally Sweden. #wrc
baffo
19th February 2020, 14:32
https://youtu.be/yWRPZNoyJoU
lnvs
19th February 2020, 14:35
https://youtu.be/yWRPZNoyJoU
deinterlace :roll:
baffo
19th February 2020, 15:19
deinterlace :roll:
It's mini-dv hd camera...almost vintage! :D
lnvs
19th February 2020, 15:29
It's mini-dv hd camera...almost vintage! :DTechnically it's not different to what some of HDTV still is. So please next time deinterlace for youtube. ;)
SubaruNorway
19th February 2020, 15:30
faster too i guess
Not when it's rock hard like tarmac, you could clearly see them struggling this year where Sunninen crashed in shakedown
Tarmop
19th February 2020, 15:43
Not when it's rock hard like tarmac, you could clearly see them struggling this year where Sunninen crashed in shakedown
Still faster, a stud works a bit, graveltyre not at all.
MTA
22nd February 2020, 20:07
This rally was nervous even before the rally started whether it would be canceled or not.
We went there with zero expectations and were very pleasantly surprised.
The roads held much better than I thought they would do and it was much smaller ruts than it usually is.
At Finnskogen and Nyckelvattnet the road was completely smooth after the cars had passed, which is usually notr the case.
There was not much ice on the road where we were and at Finnskogen there were only very few spots.
You can't say much about Likenäs. If it is plus degrees for more than 24 hours and in addition heavy rain and wind, ice and snow disappear very quickly. It was the right decision to cancel the first round of the stage.
However, it seems that tires and roads held much better than everyone thought it would. So I am happy that they could drive even though they obviously would have liked to have seen a longer rally.
About the future of rallying, I think you have to try to find more snow-safe stages even though this winter is the worst in almost 30 years.
A big thank you to everyone who was involved in the rally and especially the marshalls who worked in to the end to get so god roads as it could be under these conditions.
Some of our pictures are found at: https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallyfoto.se/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2612764065487417
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