Turkey 2018

[AnttiL]

Ogier will have better road position tomorrow. Smart playing and still not far away from leader..

Still one stage to go :) Welcome to the forum!

[KKS]

This Toyota's no near a winning pace :(

[Rallyper]

Of course Lappi means lack of power compared to new engine...

[steve.mandzij]

This Toyota's no near a winning pace :(Latvala is doing quite okay, Ott is the one struggling today.

[er88]

Mikkelsen always looks wild when watching from his onboard or the heli cam.

[AnttiL]

EDIT: Mikkelsen barely kept the lead

[EstWRC]

Neuville and Ogier 1-2 in the end of the day, lol

[jonkka]

Mikkelsen will lose the lead

Not quite

[dimviii]

first 3 crews inside 3 sec. Brace yourselves

[dimviii]

Lappi Esapekka - Ferm Janne
"I'm doing all that I can, but I cannot do any better. I know what is wrong, but I don't want to say! I have a hunch but cannot fix it!"

[er88]

The last two stages from Ogier and Neuville are what separates the best from the pretenders.

[N.O.T]

The last two stages from Ogier and Neuville are what separates the best from the pretenders.

I would not call tanak a pretender... he just suffers from the useless management that village team of nothing has.

[Allez Andruet]

EVANS! :eek:

[EstWRC]

thank god we have EVans, without him the day would be quite boring

[Rallyper]

So two more victims...

[AnttiL]

What a drama. Rallyper you were quite right that the afternoon will be crucial.

[EstWRC]

Good luck for Ogier and Neuvile for tomorrow coming so behind

[KKS]

Neuville have a chapionship quality stage here... this was a great level of driving! Well done!

[Rallyper]

What a drama. Rallyper you were quite right that the afternoon will be crucial.

Well, even you said it... ;)

[AnttiL]

All of a sudden Ott is fifth!

EDIT: sixth! :D

[EstWRC]

All of a sudden Ott is fifth!

EDIT: sixth! :D

Yes but i say it is by far his worst day since Corsica 2015.

[AnttiL]

Yes but i say it is by far his worst day since Corsica 2015.

Sweden this year?

[EstWRC]

Sweden this year?

it was the conditions, not him

[KKS]

up on slpits Kopecky pass Tidemand

[N.O.T]

Neuville 1 sec slower than this morning on split 1

[BigWorm]

Neuville with an overshoot - feeling the pressure!

[Livewireshock]

Dave Holder's horrid year in JWRC continues, retiring after suffering 3 punctures.

[Rallyper]

Tidemand losing time to Kopecky.

[N.O.T]

Ogier 5 secs up on split 1

[N.O.T]

neuville is faster than ogier in this rally so its up to him not to do any mistakes and the car to hold...

[EstWRC]

Brilliant day from Neuville

[BigWorm]

Gap down to 1.2 in the stage between Ogier and Neuville now

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@M-Sport
ElfynEvans is stopped on SS6 after hitting a rock. Crews are all ok, but won’t go any further today.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

0.3s gap after Day1... amazing.

[Mirek]

Does Tidemand have another spare or is it game over?

[Rallyper]

Thinking of Pontus. Are they having any quickfix mousse for already punctured tyres? Just to be able to reach SP?

[EstWRC]

where did that come from now?

[Mirek]

Thinking of Pontus. Are they having any quickfix mousse for already punctured tyres? Just to be able to reach SP?

No, it's forbidden. He must reach service on all four tyres (even if the tyre is punctured it has to stay on the rim).

[er88]

Does Tidemand have another spare or is it game over?He got two punctures in the first stage of the loop. So it's surely game over

[Fast Eddie WRC]

where did that come from now?

Lowered the ride-height.

[Lead]

Suspension problem for Mikkelsen after last stage?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ingram also leads WRC2 by 0.3s after SS6 !

[Rallyper]

No, it's forbidden. He must reach service on all four tyres (even if the tyre is punctured it has to stay on the rim).

Yes. And that´s I asked if they have some puncture fix for the punctured changed wheel ...Is that also forbidden?

[Mirek]

Ingram also leads WRC2 by 0.3s after SS6 !

I understand it's exciting for You but those around him have changed at least 2 wheels on stage already.

[Mirek]

Yes. And that´s I asked if they have some puncture fix for the punctured changed wheel ...Is that also forbidden?

I meant that any such system is forbidden.

[Rallyper]

I´m very surpriced how they dare cutting so much. Open wheel right down the ditch on these stages.

Well, punished Evans and Ostberg...

[BigWorm]

Neuville leading after day 1, I thought that was the least expected outcome

[EstWRC]

Neuville leading after day 1, I thought that was the least expected outcome

if someone had said to me before the rally that Neuville and Ogier are 1-2 at the end of day, i would have laughed him out

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I understand it's exciting for You but those around him have changed at least 2 wheels on stage already.

Of course, but it's great for him to get the publicity of leading. It's so important in order to help him raise sponsorship.

[EstWRC]

lol

[er88]

Mikkelsen just can't do anything to compete with Neuville in that Hyundai. So no wonder Thierry is delighted with his team mates; they're good enough to support him in the championship, but not good/quick enough to properly challenge him themselves.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnDlzQbXsAAnvk9.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnDlzQaWwAAsO_A.jpg

[Simmi]

I´m very surpriced how they dare cutting so much. Open wheel right down the ditch on these stages.

Well, punished Evans and Ostberg...

Elfyn hit a rock in the line. No idea what happened to Mads.

[Eric]

Mikkelsen just can't do anything to compete with Neuville in that Hyundai. So no wonder Thierry is delighted with his team mates; they're good enough to support him in the championship, but not good/quick enough to properly challenge him themselves.

I do think next year will be more even. Lets not forget Neuville has had 5 years in that car, Mikkelsen 11 months..

[Rallyper]

Henning doing well on SS6.

[Rallyper]

Elfyn hit a rock in the line. No idea what happened to Mads.

The line is just down the ditches...

However, you might be right on Evans.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen back to being slow again.

[N.O.T]

Its neuvilles rally to lose, Ogier cannot match his speed, without the mistake he could have a 7-10 second lead

but in this event speed is not that important... lets see which car holds until the end.

[deephouse]

What's with M-Sport's cars.. They all have black heels on wheel arches? have someone died or what?

[EstWRC]

yes, a stage win, continuing his run with having won a stage on every rally this season and having won a stage for 19 rallies in a row now :)

and up to 5th at the end of the day.

[Simmi]

Hayden saying he's consigned to playing the backup role. Interesting team dynamics there. On one hand you'd think he might be pushing to get a full championship deal elsewhere. Or does he think this is the way to lock down a seat at Hyundai for next year?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What's with M-Sport's cars.. They all have black heels on wheel arches? have someone died or what?

Could be for Bill Gwynne who died recently.

[KKS]

Tidemand - stopped

[Livewireshock]

Hayden saying he's consigned to playing the backup role. Interesting team dynamics there. On one hand you'd think he might be pushing to get a full championship deal elsewhere. Or does he think this is the way to lock down a seat at Hyundai for next year?

He has often been forced to tow the team line. For example, using the same setup as the lead cars or using older generations of equipment.

[mknight]

Hayden saying he's consigned to playing the backup role. Interesting team dynamics there. On one hand you'd think he might be pushing to get a full championship deal elsewhere. Or does he think this is the way to lock down a seat at Hyundai for next year?

It's likely this happened after the first loop in the morning. With Mikkelsen first at that point and Neuville ahead of him it's likely.

[turves]

Could be for Bill Gwynne who died recently.

That would be nice. Bill was a close family friend and I shall be seeing his family soon, I shall let them know in case that's what it is.

[dimviii]

That would be nice. Bill was a close family friend and I shall be seeing his family soon, I shall let them know in case that's what it is.

if i am remember right,its for Michael Park memory.

[Tarmop]

The last two stages from Ogier and Neuville are what separates the best from the pretenders.

I can remember Neuville and Ogier participating on every rally just like everyone else... finishing far behind for some reasons of their own as well.

[Rally Power]

Another great Neuville/Ogier fight. At this pace their cars won’t probably hold till the end; for the championship sake I hope the Fiesta won’t be the first to break.

[steve.mandzij]

Nice first day in Turkey! I'm really loving this old style rally, where 16 seconds is a matter of a stage or two worth of a difference. We've got at least an outsider chance at a four way battle for the lead, and realistically anybody can win from lucky punctures and failures.

[dimviii]

"The two drivers who started first on the road are in the lead the first night: it's a surprise, but we knew a lot could happen because of the rough conditions. a few drivers also stopped during the afternoon, I do not feel I have increased the pace in the long afternoon special, "said Ogier.

And the French driver, champion of the world in title, to engage: "The truth is that we miss a bit of speed.It is not possible to follow if others add a little. It's not easy, but we fight, the race can be won on something other than speed, we still have our chances, we'll have to take risks, for sure, but also a bit of success. tension is exciting, it's nice to have battles. "
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_ogier-il-nous-manque-un-peu-de-vitesse-mais-on-a-encore-nos-chances?id=10019332

[mknight]

Nice first day in Turkey! I'm really loving this old style rally, where 16 seconds is a matter of a stage or two worth of a difference. We've got at least an outsider chance at a four way battle for the lead, and realistically anybody can win from lucky punctures and failures.

Yes I like it as well. 10s up one stage 10s down next. It's probably a combination of a new rally and conditions though. With new rally (and without onboards from before) drivers couldn't just learn every corner by watching video for 3 weeks like it is on other rallies.

[bugwrx]

expect Tanak to be very fast tomorrow ..

[eib1]

Henning 3:30 faster than WRC2 guys and in 10th place o/a.
Does he always has same pace, no matter what car he drives? :D

[eib1]

expect Tanak to be very fast tomorrow ..

+1
am i the only one who still thinks that he will win it?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

INGRAM: ��️ Interview with @ChrisIngramGB, who finds himself in P2 in #WRC2 at the end of Friday on @rallyturkey 2018
https://t.co/7KSACkxX8J

Explains his tactics and how they are paying off here..

[Rallyper]

Yeah for sure tacticts when surviving first day.

I´d say pure luck or maybe 90 % luck and 10% "skills".

[RS]

What happened to Tidemand? Skoda tweet says they will ‘try to repair Pontus car for a possible restart tomorrow’

[EstWRC]

+1
am i the only one who still thinks that he will win it?

You can always count me In :D

[Mirek]

What happened to Tidemand? Skoda tweet says they will ‘try to repair Pontus car for a possible restart tomorrow’

3x puncture and possibly damage from driving with it further. Kopecký 2x puncture too. Says a lot about those R5 drivers who tried to push and not only go through somehow - with the exception of Henning Solberg of course. By the way whose car is Henning driving?

[mknight]

expect Tanak to be very fast tomorrow ..
It has happened before that Toyotas were slow on friday morning and then got very fast, for example on Corsica. The opposite also happened though, on sunday in argentina.

Finishing 2-3 positions behind Neuville and Ogier is not much of an option though, so he'll definitely try. Big question is if car and tires hold.

[Jarek Z]

Henning 3:30 faster than WRC2 guys and in 10th place o/a.
Does he always has same pace, no matter what car he drives? :D

He is probably the only driver in R5 that didn't have a puncture (maybe together witn Ingram).

[mousti]

3x puncture and possibly damage from driving with it further. Kopecký 2x puncture too. Says a lot about those R5 drivers who tried to push and not only go through somehow - with the exception of Henning Solberg of course. By the way whose car is Henning driving?I thought it was a Fabia from Toksport. Thought he would hire one from Pontus

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[RS]

3x puncture and possibly damage from driving with it further. Kopecký 2x puncture too. Says a lot about those R5 drivers who tried to push and not only go through somehow - with the exception of Henning Solberg of course. By the way whose car is Henning driving?

Can’t imagine the damage would be terminal unless he had an accident?

Re: punctures, are tyres R5 boys use less puncture resistant? Or are problems occurring for them because roads are more churned up further down the order?

[AnttiL]

It has happened before that Toyotas were slow on friday morning and then got very fast, for example on Corsica. The opposite also happened though, on sunday in argentina.

That was because they had overheating issues on the slow stages of Sunday in Argentina

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yeah for sure tacticts when surviving first day.

I´d say pure luck or maybe 90 % luck and 10% "skills".

No need to be so harsh, Ingram has good reasons for the steady driving plan.

Its only his second gravel rally in an R5; plus it's his big chance and he has low funding so has to protect the car and make a good finish position and hope to please his sponsors.

[olemann]

45 years old an first tim in WRC 2 and now 10 total in Turkey and leading WRC 2 clases with more an 3 minuts. Never seen Henning in Skoda before, but he has so far driven from all WRC 2 drivers. Then we can not say that WRC 2 riders are ready to run WRC top class. It was his second-hand Ilka Minor who has arranged the drive and possibly a car. It was not from Skoda Motorsport factory, I think. And her is his stage results:
9 on 1 stage
1 on 2 stage
4 on 3 stage
2 on 4 stage
1 on 5 stage
1 on 6 stage
1 on 7 stage

[Mirek]

Henning is not driving WRC2.

[olemann]

I understand but with the same type of car that WRC 2.

[SubaruNorway]

Henning did Finland 2016 in a Fiesta and Sweden 2017 in a Fabia, when they had to take the windshield from Lukyanuk's rental car i think it was after a roll on Knon.

[olemann]

I've missed it. Then there is the second race with an unknown car in this group against the best in WRC 2.

[Mirek]

I've missed it. Then there is the second race with an unknown car in this group against the best in WRC 2.

Sadly there is no real race. The thing is that usually nobody from WRC2 cares about non-registred drivers and nobody can blame them for that. There is simply no reason to risk anything in a virtual fight with someone who doesn't take points. Henning is not the first one to be ahead of them and not the first one who will be simply ignored.

[drive]

Re: punctures, are tyres R5 boys use less puncture resistant? Or are problems occurring for them because roads are more churned up further down the order?
Tyre used by R5 is at least 1kg lighter then those Wrc tyres - difference is in steel wires quantity inside, so there is strenght difference

[wrc2017]

Havent been following... bit Citroen's despite having major road advantage.. implode again. can someone do the calcs on how many punctures the team has had in relation to others?

[KKS]

Does Tidemand have another spare or is it game over?


He got two punctures in the first stage of the loop. So it's surely game over
Did he? It's Kopecky punctured 2 front tyres and change it on stage. With Tidemand happen a same? I thought he pucntured only one tyre on SS5

[AnttiL]

Yes, both changed two wheels at once on SS5 (took about 3 minutes for both). Then Tidemand had a third puncture on SS6, tried to continue but retired on SS7

[RS]

45 years old an first tim in WRC 2 and now 10 total in Turkey and leading WRC 2 clases with more an 3 minuts. Never seen Henning in Skoda before, but he has so far driven from all WRC 2 drivers. Then we can not say that WRC 2 riders are ready to run WRC top class. It was his second-hand Ilka Minor who has arranged the drive and possibly a car. It was not from Skoda Motorsport factory, I think. And her is his stage results:
9 on 1 stage
1 on 2 stage
4 on 3 stage
2 on 4 stage
1 on 5 stage
1 on 6 stage
1 on 7 stage

Let’s not get carried away, if Henning was leading Kopecky and Tidemand by three minutes after one day on a ‘normal’ rally I would say Citroen should forget about trying to sign Ogier and go for the old man..

[AnttiL]

Is there a difference in the tyres Henning is allowed to use compared to WRC2?

[KKS]

Tidemand will not start Day2, chassis damaged.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnHF_4yXgAAkFjr.jpg

[EstWRC]

Mooorning and we are LIVE now!

[KKS]

Morning... finally I wake-up nearly on-time and looking forward for a interesting rally day :)

[Lead]

Ok, here we go.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Morning... great day ahead.

[Rallyper]

Morning guys ...

[EstWRC]

Lappi already 3 secs up on Suninen and Breen in spl1

[KKS]

Finally we have some fast section and drivers can use 3rd or even 4th gear :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Much smoother road todsy and no dust issues.

[EstWRC]

whats going on between spli3 and 4?

[dimviii]

Good morning guys!

https://youtu.be/ggsiWCwLN5o

[AnttiL]

Judging by the 2016 rally onboard, there is a very small and rough bit of road about 16 km into the stage

[KKS]

Breen and Lappi have half-spins

[dimviii]

All Michelin @WRC drivers with 6 MICHELIN LTX Force H4 execpet Paddon: 4H4+2M6 and Ogier/Tanak: 5 H4

[AnttiL]

Ferm was lost with the notes for a while after the stall, some nasty words spoken in the cabin

[AnttiL]

This stage will produce big gaps, Tänak already 27s up on Suninen at 12 km

[EstWRC]

damn Ogier faster than Ott

ok afternoon will be the deicding one

[AnttiL]

It sounded like a flapping tyre on Tänak's onboard, but could be also some other noise

[Rallyper]

Sad to see Tidemand out.

And why he had to retire. Not even clever handling was enough...

[cosmin_sb]

Neuville faster after the first 2 split

[dimviii]

Tanak and Ogier with 5 tyres,Neuville with 6 and fastest at split 2

[EstWRC]

Ott may get Latvala with this stage

[AnttiL]

Ott may get Latvala with this stage

Likely he will do it. Can't wait for Latvala's reaction at the end of the stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Road cleaning big-time.. its all going Neuville's way here.

[KKS]

ogier 4th split - was massive!

[EstWRC]

Road cleaning big-time.. its all going Neuville's way here.

yesterday right position for the rally and today also

damn he is so lucky this season

[dimviii]

guys did that happened at a slow corner with handbrake use?

SAT 09:15 - SS8: LAPPI
16sec quicker than Suninen, but frustrated about the spin/stall early in the test. "It's the same problem as always. The car doesn't downshift, we stall and then it doesn't restart."

[EstWRC]

yep dimviii


E: Ott still not satisfied

[dimviii]

Road cleaning big-time.. its all going Neuville's way here.

Ogier has same road position,and Neuville a tyre to carry more.

[dimviii]

yep dimviii

its unbelievable that they havent fix it after so many rallies.

[Lead]

Neuville's pace is crazy at the moment.

[EstWRC]

Latvala teking time back...Ott will not get him yet

[Rallyper]

Neuville is flying!!

[EstWRC]

all the Toyotas struggling once again

[EstWRC]

the pace from the TOP2 is just unbelievable

[KKS]

Neuville in big troubles. What a ....

[EstWRC]

and Thierry is gone!

[AnttiL]

Neuville just Rovanperä'd!

[dimviii]

Neuville not so good 7th split

[Integrale]

and Thierry is gone!

So lucky that Neuville

[KKS]

Front left spring just pop-up without any reason. What a bad luck for Neuville :(

[Lead]

Neuville's rally is over.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wow ... and on a smooth road !

[EstWRC]

championship just went game on again!

[Rallyper]

He has to do a full Rovanperä ... to reach finish..

[BigWorm]

Nooo!!

[KKS]

Never see Ogier as happy as now

[er88]

What a moment for the championship.

[EstWRC]

Mads stopped at 24km

[dimviii]

did he hit something?

[EstWRC]

havent seen yet but it just came out on the straight basically

[dimviii]

Ogier trying not to smile
https://twitter.com/RafaMSport/status/1040851401327472641

[er88]

Brilliant for Tanak this as well as Seb. Terrible luck for Thierry but that's rallying

[HaCo]

:-( :-(

[Rallyper]

Well, Neuville was too hot then. Too fast. That is a way of handling as well...

[dimviii]

championship just started again from scratch.Pitty for Neuville though.He was clearly faster and with no mistakes.

[EstWRC]

Brilliant for Tanak this as well as Seb. Terrible luck for Thierry but that's rallying

rally not over yet

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnHNXmqW4AADv6m.jpg

[Lead]

Who was the guy earlier who said Neuville is soo lucky?

[EstWRC]

me...i also cursed Latvala on one rally

it seems i have to leave this forum

[Rallyper]

The car let him down then... Or the speed got him. Not always easy to find out.

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnHaRenX0AAWcjL.jpg

[Simmi]

Hyundai biscuit suspension/arms strikes again.

[bigattack]

No one else on NEU and OGI pace so basically its cruising time. OGI now can manage his rally and that should not be a problem.

[Eric]

If its not Mikkelsens car its Neuvilles. There is to many examples of the i20 breaking down.

[er88]

Well Tanak will get ahead of Jari either by speed (most likely) or team orders if needed, question is whether he can overhaul Mikkelsen in 2nd.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Car failure then if he didnt hit anything. No excuse for Hyundai - everyone knew this would be a tough rally.

[dimviii]

if Ogier wins,seems he could take and maximum power stage points from his speed compared to other drivers.

[HaCo]

From the images, you think TN has to retire?

[EstWRC]

this is also a huge blow for manu points

[Indreq]

Neuville will probably start tomorrow to get Powerstage points, so Ogier has to fight for them.

[dimviii]

From the images, you think TN has to retire?

yes

[KKS]

Did they try to switch rear damper to FL corner?

[Tarmop]

Car failure then if he didnt hit anything. No excuse for Hyundai - everyone knew this would be a tough rally.

You constantly hit something on a stage, sometimes softer, sometimes harder.

[dimviii]

Neuville will probably start tomorrow to get Powerstage points, so Ogier has to fight for them.

good point.

[KKS]

yes
they now trying... and trying hard.

[dimviii]

Did they try to switch rear damper to FL corner?

seems that the upper point where suspension mount has collapsed.So dont know if is possible to install any strut.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnHcSqIXgAAnLYp.jpg

[Simmi]

Surely TN will struggle to get PS points tomorrow if he's sweeping. Even a couple of points could make all the difference though. His entire margin and more will be wiped out.

[bigattack]

Can these all live commenters please shut up and let us hear what they are saying??? we KNOW what happened...

[KKS]

dumper from RR corner now trying to mount to FL corner.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You constantly hit something on a stage, sometimes softer, sometimes harder.

Maybe the car was weakened on yesterdays stages, but its still a failure.

[Simmi]

Very interesting dynamic here with the All-Live. You might think cameras would piss off Neuville but actually very helpful for the team to monitor and advise on the fix. This was never possible before.

[Indreq]

If they can continue now, even at slower pace, then there is good chance that during the day someone else in front of them makes mistake and they will gain positions due to that. So it makes sense to try to continue even if not in competitive pace.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

At least he's not in the dark and wet like Ogier on Rally GB 2017 fixing the broken brake disc...

[Simmi]

If they can continue now, even at slower pace, then there is good chance that during the day someone else in front of them makes mistake and they will gain positions due to that. So it makes sense to try to continue even if not in competitive pace.

Fighting for road position in the powerstage at this point I think vs anyone that is forced to super rally. Maybe a couple of points could all be worth it.

[KKS]

If they can continue now, even at slower pace, then there is good chance that during the day someone else in front of them makes mistake and they will gain positions due to that. So it makes sense to try to continue even if not in competitive pace.
if he retire now it's +35min. He now must just survive 2 stages and drive to the service... so if he lost 16min on each stage it still will better than superally

[KKS]

At least he's not in the dark and wet like Ogier on Rally GB 2017 fixing the broken brake disc...
Ogier didn't fix it. He just switch off that brake, incomparable massive of work

[BigWorm]

Does OTL result in Super Rally or retirement?

[jonkka]

Does OTL result in Super Rally or retirement?

Exclusion

[KKS]

Neuville on a move!!!!

[deephouse]

Neuville is moving

[BigWorm]

Exclusion

I thought so, let's hope he manages to get to the stage before that then.

[EstWRC]

based on Lappis time the stage doesnt suit toyotas again

[jonkka]

based on Lappis time the stage doesnt suit toyotas again

That or he's stalled - again

[EstWRC]

great opening Pace from Paddon, 2.6 sec up

[KKS]

Neuville taking wrong road and drive to service :(

[KKS]

very bad idea as for me (

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier didn't fix it. He just switch off that brake, incomparable massive of work

It was described as heroic.

[KKS]

Neuville doing 100kph on road and having 13+min to get-in to the stage looks like it was doable !

[dimviii]

very bad idea as for me (

its a big risk to continue at this state for 31 stage km.if he further damage the car he will not be able for power stage points.

[KKS]

It was described as heroic.
It's Ogier. Even if he wash a car him-self it already heroic.

[René]

Despite trying to make some repairs on the car, @thierryneuville is unfortunately forced to retire after SS8 due to the suspension damage he picked up during the stage. #WRC #HMSGOfficial #RallyTurkey
09:27 - 15 sept. 2018

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's Ogier. Even if he wash a car him-self it already heroic.

Your hatred is pathetic.

https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/october-2017/ogier-brakes/page/4978--12-12-.html

[BigWorm]

****

[KKS]

its a big risk to continue at this state for 31 stage km.if he further damage the car he will not be able for power stage points.
You think that Hyundai team couldn't fix that car on 30min service? I thought target only to get in to midday service and all issues will solved.

[krissucool]

Your hatred is pathetic.

https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/october-2017/ogier-brakes/page/4978--12-12-.html

Your Ogier nuthugging is pathetic.

[bigattack]

its rally2 unfortunately

[BigWorm]

Mikkelsen has to keep the pressure on Ogier, can't go hiding

[dimviii]

You think that Hyundai team couldn't fix that car on 30min service? I thought target only to get in to midday service and all issues will solved.

of course they could fix the car at service.I was talking about the further damage he will create if he continue at this state for 30 stage kms.That they changed some suspension parts from rear to front and you see the car moving,doesnt mean the car is ok.

[deephouse]

Te only one who can put pressure on champion beside Neuville is Tanak. But here I think is not possible. He is in the middle the whole weekend..

EDIT: Big possibility for Neuville taking 5 PS points except if he will be first on road. He and Ogier are quickest this weekend.

[Simmi]

Jari actually thinks he's in a fight with Ott. That's cute.

[EstWRC]

best Ott can get by pure pace here is 3rda, at least some good points but Ogier increases the gap by 10 points if the standings stay...Mikkelsen with a good pace

[KKS]

Ogier no braks?

[Simmi]

Holy balls!!!!!!

[EstWRC]

Ogier with a damage too!

[KKS]

Another drama.... :)
steering and probably brakes

[Rallyper]

This is crazy!!!

[deephouse]

Guys We have a 3-way battle this year!

[mknight]

Te only one who can put pressure on champion beside Neuville is Tanak. But here I think is not possible. He is in the middle the whole weekend..

EDIT: Big possibility for Neuville taking 5 PS points except if he will be first on road. He and Ogier are quickest this weekend.
... and you got instantly proven wrong.

[BigWorm]

Oh my god

[jonkka]

Perfect!

[dimviii]

unbelievable!

[cosmin_sb]

this rally becames more and more interesting ...who will win it?

[Eli]

this rally becames more and more interesting ...who will win it?

Tanak?

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen

[cali]

And everybody here presumed Turkey will be the worst rally of the season....
Ironic

[deephouse]

Tanak?

haha probably.

[KKS]

Guys We have a 3-way battle this year!
Did you talk about Tanak get into a drama on next stage? No thanks!

[Rallyper]

I must say the guys are not clever enough to handle these kinds of roads... (me grumpy)

[deephouse]

Can sectators help the crew, while they work on car?

[Tarmop]

And everybody here presumed Turkey will be the worst rally of the season....
Ironic

In a way, it is.

[deephouse]

Did you talk about Tanak get into a drama on next stage? No thanks!

No no, for the title

[KKS]

On later part of stage Ogier brake only with handbrake.

[Simmi]

I must say this is awesome from All-Live. Like Julian said they could not get a better advert for the product. Properly absorbing.

[KKS]

And it's a perfect opportunity to show all Ogier 'heroics' repair skills ;)

[T16]

Superb.

[Indreq]

My friend told me that he saw on all-live that some spectator helped Ogier - i didnt notice this, did anybody else spot it?

[deephouse]

My friend told me that he saw on all-live that some spectator helped Ogier - i didnt notice this, did anybody else spot it?

Yes guy in blue shirt bring them tyres.. That's why I asked if they can help the crew. I don't know if this is allowed or not.

[jonkka]

Can sectators help the crew, while they work on car?

No, any outside help is strictly forbidden.

[EstWRC]

IMO it is not allowed

[cali]

My friend told me that he saw on all-live that some spectator helped Ogier - i didnt notice this, did anybody else spot it?I saw it myself as well

[Tarmop]

It was someone important...official or something?

[jonkka]

Yes guy in blue shirt bring them tyres.. That's why I asked if they can help the crew. I don't know if this is allowed or not.

If that indeed is true, it might mean trouble for Ogier. Tommi Makinen was disqualified from 1999 Safari Rally for that reason.

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/1056-403504-ks6wbtz/index.html

[cali]

In a way, it is.And in a way it's the most exciting

[SubaruNorway]

If that indeed is true, it might mean trouble for Ogier. Tommi Makinen was disqualified from 1999 Safari Rally for that reason.

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/1056-403504-ks6wbtz/index.html

That's when they had help lifting the car, i think they will look through the fingers of a spectator rolling a tyre over to them.
They must have bent something in the mounting for the wishbone because It's quite easy to change

[deephouse]

Haha in Neuville's case there were a lot of spectators and press media.. Here are only others crews

[tomhlord]

Haha, good old Henning!

What are the penalties please for being late to the start of the next stage?

[KKS]

Man with blue shirt isn't a spectator - he is FIA official. so it's allowed 'help' = safety provided

[jonkka]

That's when they had help lifting the car, i think they will look through the fingers of a spectator rolling a tyre over to them.

That's why I wrote *might mean*. Also don't discount whining factor if Ogier would be slapped with DQ. Having said that, if spectator help reduces time crew spends on tyre change on the stage (rather than between them) and directly benefits one competitor, would you look through your fingers?

[deephouse]

I see Suninen again waiting to let Seb in front of him if he will fall behind him.

[Oliverk]

Man with blue shirt isn't a spectator - he is FIA official. so it's allowed 'help'

doubt that, even if he is official

[SubaruNorway]

That's why I wrote *might mean*. Also don't discount whining factor if Ogier would be slapped with DQ. Having said that, if spectator help reduces time crew spends on tyre change on the stage (rather than between them) and directly benefits one competitor, would you look through your fingers?

I didn't see it but i think i saw the same guy telling them to not lie under the car, was he moving another tyre to put under the front of the car maybe?