53º Rally RACC Catalunya – Costa Daurada 2017

[KKS]

Lappi start to look like golden boy. From secure 6th position with nothing to fight - he push for a fastest times and crash. WHY?

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen with open bonnet

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLmCLucWkAA4jWN.jpg

[dimviii]

Meeke mistake
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/916907099392798720

[KKS]

rallytravel.com‏*@rallytravel
Mistake from Kris Meeke drops a second or two at the 'donut' roundabout here on Ruidecanyes
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/916907099392798720
big time- lose

[KKS]

Wow... Meeke win a stage with that mistake. It's impressive!!!!

[er88]

Meeke 3.5 up with a mistake at the hairpin. What a time. Domination

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[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLmM-B9WAAAEADr.jpg

[KKS]

Idiot..... Nueville!!!!!

[Lead]

Neuville.... such a stupid mistake...

[er88]

Fuck sake. Neuville got out of shape on a left hander then had to take too big a cut on the following immediate right hander.

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[Andre Oliveira]

Sun 09:02 - SS16: Neuville
He completes with the loss of more than a minute and climbs out to inspect the damage. What's the verdict? "It's game over." Same problem as my colleagues yesterday. It's like this." And with that, he's off.

[BigWorm]

Mehhh

[SubaruNorway]

And the same part of the hub broke for the third time this weekend, was it one of the updates maybe?

[er88]

Meeke has been in a league of his own this morning. Wonder whether he will continue with the same pace/rhythm in the next loop, or he'll back off now he has a big gap?

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[wwbroe]

So, all three Hyundai's out with same problem, is it purely driver errors or is there something wrong with the material the hub is made off?

[Eli]

Hyundai has a lot of homework to do for next year...

[er88]

So, all three Hyundai's out with same problem, is it purely driver errors or is there something wrong with the material the hub is made off?It looks flimsy but all 3 Hyundai drivers took too big of a cut. Neuville was too wild on the corner before so slight driver error leading to a very harsh consequence.

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[Tauri_J]

Hyundai has a lot of homework to do for next year...

more like hyundai's drivers

[Eli]

more like hyundai's drivers

you know what I mean ;)

[BigWorm]

And now Tänak will jump to second in the drivers’.

[Mirek]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLmM-B9WAAAEADr.jpg

Hey, not a right-hand corner! That's first time I think.

Anyway another crash on asphalt. It's very rare when it doesn't happen...

[mknight]

Neuville was more in than others at that corner, due to being too wide on the corner before. But clearly interesting that the damage looks the same.

Sordo and Mikkelsen were as much in as Tanak and Ostberg.... Fiestas didn't brake.

[Ucci]

Speaking for Neuville-the whole weekend was under avarage for the team (except Mikkelsen first stages), following yesterday's shock with both Sordo&Mikkelsen out, and morning's troubles with i20 handling.....this drivers mistake was just a reflection of whole weekend.
Now Ogier has wide open door to the 5th WC crown.

[Ucci]

True....Lappi is very very prone to crash on tarmac....

[Eli]

Speaking for Neuville-the whole weekend was under avarage for the team (except Mikkelsen first stages), following yesterday's shock with both Sordo&Mikkelsen out, and morning's troubles with i20 handling.....this drivers mistake was just a reflection of whole weekend.
Now Ogier has wide open door to the 5th WC crown.

I think it was open before this weekend, now Ogier will just walk through it...

[KKS]

So, all three Hyundai's out with same problem, is it purely driver errors or is there something wrong with the material the hub is made off?
Both... i20 not excuse that kind of error's, but we know that Fiesta survive it.

[Augury]

Good job cutting out Kopecky. What a sad bunch they are.

[wwbroe]

Both... i20 not excuse that kind of error's, but we know that Fiesta survive it.
I agree with you, definitely all 3 Hyundai drivers made an error on those cuts, but why the Fiesta's survived kind of same error and Hyundai's did not? Must be something wrong with these parts, counting in also previous case's, like for example Deutschland for Neuville.

[Ucci]

I think it was open before this weekend, now Ogier will just walk through it...

It was open earlier, now its wide open....

[wwbroe]

Tanak is 16 points behind Neuville, so he would need third place and one point on powerstage to have same amount of points.;)

[mknight]

In the TV coverage we have now lost "the man from Dungannon" comment on every TV stage....

sadly since Finland this got replaced by saying how Hanninen beat Neuville, Meeke and Mikkelsen in IRC days... every single TV stage.
a) it's irritating to hear it every time
b) repeating it doesn't make it true, sometimes he was faster, sometimes slower, yes he was clearly able to fight with them. Sometimes loose, sometimes win, but not like Loeb vs the rest in WRC.

[wwbroe]

Things are looking great for M-sport and Wilson, taking both championships, and maybe even a one-two in WDC.;)

[cali]

Neuvillehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171008/ed6b3ba72f32d69a5f07257397a8b9a8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171008/b23c58cde8e3fc97c68586527f8b5e3a.jpg

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[Mirek]

Looks like also the ball joint torn apart from the upright?

[cali]

Neuville talking about his rally here. Said he would not have been mu h faster with hard tyres on friday. The rally was very difficult bcs Huundais understeering like hell. Also complained that Tänak and Ogier cut the same place but without any consequences. Thiry is also here :)

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[cali]

Looks like also the ball joint torn apart from the upright?I just had a quick look cause there was lot of fans but ot seems to me so too.

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[Eli]

It was open earlier, now its wide open....True that

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Things are looking great for M-sport and Wilson, taking both championships, and maybe even a one-two in WDC.;)

I'm not saying anything... dont want to jinx it !

[KKS]

Just remind one of rally Sweden tweets
https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16681629_970674613068225_5729517279140710478_n.jpg ?oh=7de9d2e63c5f0f75223029d140d072ef&oe=5A832E4B

[macebig]

Hey, Hyundai just won their TCR debut, so there is a silver lining...

[Eli]

Hey, Hyundai just won their TCR debut, so they is a silver lining...Lol... Better luck next year...

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[WUff1]

Video of Sordo´s and Mikkelsen´s crash:

https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/videos/2017/rallye-spanien/crash-sordo-und-mikkelsen/

[bugwrx]

"I am not going to finish second this year" .. oh thierry, you wont.

[HarriK]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLmM-B9WAAAEADr.jpg

I think thats my photo from Twitter.
We were 700m before but rushed to see our friends. Asfalt was very slippery after village.
Another wrc2 car also spinned and almost collide with toyota.

[KKS]

yep it's your pic

[wwbroe]

Ogier fastest trough

[wwbroe]

Meeke even faster, don't bin it now Chris

[er88]

Another stage win...

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[AnttiL]

Another stage win...

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Already confirmed for most stage wins in this rally

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So so nice to hear a happy Kris Meeke after his bad time this year. Great performance here.

[macebig]

I d be very happy to see a Ford 1-2, but Kris please don't bin it...

[WRC1]

if the race ends like it is M-sport miss only 5 points to win the ManuChampionship in the last two races :)

[wwbroe]

Kopecky has passed Veiby in overall classification

[HarriK]

I'm back in Lappi's corner. Will see what happens. Gravel outside and barrier is bend.

[AnttiL]

This is the spot where Suninen has been unlucky in the last three rallies, I hope he keeps it together

[wwbroe]

Stage is delayed, because of spectators?

[KKS]

After a such good competition - now it's back to old, boring Sunday driving

[wwbroe]

Ogier is making the difference on this one, fastest on split 2, even faster as Meeke, guess he will be at least second at the end of this rally.

[er88]

Good good time by Seb. Should secure 2nd now over Ott

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[wwbroe]

Meeke yet with another besttime, maybe Sordo could be faster, he is at last split

[KKS]

Another stage win for Meeke. :)

[wwbroe]

Sordo finishes 0,2 slower as Meeke

[er88]

This has been some drive from Kris today, untouchable. Hopefully he has a nice safe power stage now

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[René]

[QUOTE=er88;1158465]This has been some drive from Kris today, untouchable. Hopefully he has a nice safe power stage now

Without incursion by a car park ;)

[dimviii]

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Real shame that for Lappi after doing some excellent times here.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

RallyRACC‏ @RallyRACC 3m3 minutes ago
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The Marshals are working hard to reposition spectators, listen to them! The stage may be cancelled!!

[dimviii]

small clip with Mikkelsen with open bonnet
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/916937866806251520

[Eli]

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SS19 SANTA MARINA
The Marshals are working hard to reposition spectators, listen to them! The stage may be cancelled!!Come on you guys, listen to the marshals!!!

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[Eli]

[QUOTE=er88;1158465]This has been some drive from Kris today, untouchable. Hopefully he has a nice safe power stage now

Without incursion by a car park ;)Or Armco barrier for that matter....

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[dimviii]

Karlip *
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‏*@Karlip1
The rock that may have decided the championship #WRC #RallyRACC SS16 @thierryneuville

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLmO22yWkAAZZ6-.jpg

[Mirek]

I can't help myself but old Loeb's words came to my mind seeing the screenshot of Neuville's incident. Loeb has been always saying (especially in Catalunya) that a lot of the cutting is basically meaningless and nobody gets faster with it...

[AndyRAC]

Don't cut = no issues. Cut = big risk....

An oversimplification maybe, but not without some truth.

[dimviii]

Sun 12:00 - SS19: Running order
A few changes to suit the live TV schedule. Here's how the leaders will line up: Mikkelsen, Sordo, Al Qassimi, Kopecky, Suninen, Evans, Lefebvre, Østberg, Hänninen, Tänak, Ogier, Meeke. Four minute intervals for all but the final three who have five minutes.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How many broken wheels / suspensions do you predict?

Cuts in Catalunya.. he was so right about that !

[Jinu13]

[QUOTE=René;1158466]Or Armco barrier for that matter....

Stop, you're making me nervous. How many more crazy ways can he find to crash!

[Eli]

[QUOTE=Eli;1158482]

Stop, you're making me nervous. How many more crazy ways can he find to crash!It's not me, it was Ogier two years ago... Better be safe than sorry:) Fingers crossed!!!

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Poor rally for DMack. Still a lot of tyre improvement required for such roads. Rally GB has to be much better.

[AndyRAC]

Another good event from Juho; that is the driver we saw in the IRC. I hope he keeps his seat.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Super solid job here by Tanak.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ultra-professional rally by Ogier... only pushed when required and keep it clean to bring home great points.

[Eli]

Ultra-professional rally by Ogier... only pushed when required and keep it clean to bring home great points.Only a catastrophe will prevent him his 5th WDC.

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[A FONDO]

Ultra-professional rally by Ogier... only pushed when required and keep it clean to bring home great points.

At least he pushed this time.

Ostberg with a quite good run this time, overall just two minutes from the winner.

[AndyRAC]

The drive of a champion from Ogier; fast when he needed to be. Gets to the finish with a nice collection of points

[racerx1979]

Another good event from Juho; that is the driver we saw in the IRC. I hope he keeps his seat.

Juho did great and he was the only Toyota left. His comments at stage end on WRC are interesting. He knows he might be replaced for next year, but I sure hope he keeps his seat.

Big congrats to Meeke as well. He and the team really needed this win

[dimviii]

Μeeke finished.Congrats!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What a rally by Meeke.. stunning win by the Brit !!

[AndyRAC]

Top drive from Kris; fast sensible pace. Nice result after a 'troubling' season.

[KKS]

It's unbelievable.... Meeke reach a finish.
Congratz!!!

[er88]

Absolutely dominated everyone on the tarmac. Superb win by Meeke. So pleased for him and Citroen

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[dimviii]

Rally Paradise‏*@rallyparadise
#WRC points after #RallyRACC: @SebOgier 198 @OttTanak 161 @thierryneuville 160 @JariMattiWRC 123 @DaniSordo 94 @ElfynEvans 93 #RallySpain

[dimviii]

Absolutely dominated everyone on the tarmac.

the most positive was his and c3, pace at gravel at Friday.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak goes into 2nd ahead of Neuville in the WDC.

Ogier extends his lead.

M-Sport almost there in the Manu championship.

What a rally.

[itix]

It's unbelievable.... Meeke reach a finish.
Congratz!!!

My thoughts exactly...
Well deserved. Hope he can take the confidence boost and get his bloody act together with it.

The championships are pretty much over anyway. Even if Ogier DNF at the next round and Neuville takes a 30 pointer he will still be on the back foot. Hyundai have some work to do to strengthen their suspension components.

[doubled1978]

the most positive was his and c3, pace at gravel at Friday.

I think he just approached it the right way, he didn't try to win the event on the gravel, just kept himself in contention before the tarmac. Very good performance.

[macebig]

Meeke runs the full championship (except 1 rally), has won 2 events and he barely makes it into the Top 10 of the Driver's Standings....

[itix]

Meeke runs the full championship (except 1 rally), has won 2 events and he barely makes it into the Top 10 of the Driver's Standings....Good for the season, bad for Meeke.
Let's all hope he can shake his crashing off the same way Tänak managed.

[macebig]

Good for the season, bad for Meeke.
Let's all hope he can shake his crashing off the same way Tänak managed.

The thing is if Meeke was able to calm himself and take the points like Ogier does, he would be somewhere near Neuville or Latvala in the Standings...

[AnttiL]

Great rally from Meeke, I actually believed in him: https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC/status/915981686797750285

Also great performances from Hänninen and Suninen.

Evans was off the pace as he often is (because of Dmack?) and Lefebvre was doing the pace he usually does, with a couple of decent stage times, just without any mistakes.

[RS]

It's not just about Meeke. The car is poor in difficult conditions and it also broke when he was leading in Corsica.

[Ucci]

Ultra-professional rally by Ogier... only pushed when required and keep it clean to bring home great points.
110 % agree! That is a drive expected from 4x WC; in few weeks already 5th time....he deserves it, like it or not....the rest of the drivers are not in the same league.

[ESTR]

Great rally from Meeke, I actually believed in him: https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC/status/915981686797750285

Also great performances from Hänninen and Suninen.

Evans was off the pace as he often is (because of Dmack?) and Lefebvre was doing the pace he usually does, with a couple of decent stage times, just without any mistakes.

These DMACK tyres are more efficient that Michelin (less punctures).. except for Ogier he have always almost new tires after all stages

[RS]

These DMACK tyres are more efficient that Michelin (less punctures).. except for Ogier he have always almost new tires after all stages

On tarmac they are not good enough. Evans is a good tarmac driver but he often wasn't better than WRC2 times.

[er88]

It's not just about Meeke. The car is poor in difficult conditions and it also broke when he was leading in Corsica.True. And every other driver has said the same about the car, even Loeb. Plus look how lost Andreas was on the gravel.

Meeke's pretty good pace on the gravel here is encouraging, but then again it's similar to Mexico. Let's wait and see in Wales and Australia how Meeke/ the car perform, as those roads are much different in character

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[itix]

The thing is if Meeke was able to calm himself and take the points like Ogier does, he would be somewhere near Neuville or Latvala in the Standings...

Totally agree. He needs to see a psychologist or go visit some hindu guru or something that can teach him this and make it stick.

I fear that Meeke only has three modes though... "slow and steady", "fast and lucky" or "fast and crash".

The fact that i didn't see any small moments or mistakes from him this weekend hopefully indicate that I'm wrong and that he is developing a fourth mode.

[itix]

True. And every other driver has said the same about the car, even Loeb. Plus look how lost Andreas was on the gravel.

Meeke's pretty good pace on the gravel here is encouraging, but then again it's similar to Mexico. Let's wait and see in Wales and Australia how Meeke/ the car perform, as those roads are much different in character

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Oh c'mon...
Every car have had technical issues this year. Hyundai breaks suspensions in cuts, Toyota have had a plethora of issues (and poor latvala has actually never crashed this year), the Fiesta was running on two cylinders more than once etc.

It is his own fault. His car has given up once. Neuvilles twice now and he is third in the championship.

If you stuck Ogier in the car at the beginning of the year I bet he would at least be 2nd in the championship by now.

[AnttiL]

(and poor latvala has actually never crashed this year)



He rolled in Portugal but he was sick and it didn't result in retirement. He's grown much as a driver this season.

[itix]

He rolled in Portugal but he was sick and it didn't result in retirement. He's grown much as a driver this season.

Ah right... forgot about that! I think it is 100 percent the confidence of having the team behind him. He is a very psychologically sensitive person.

[N.O.T]

Any update on the % of chances the potato useless dog of garbage has for the title ??? I estimate around 95% but need confirmation...

[N.O.T]

He rolled in Portugal but he was sick and it didn't result in retirement. He's grown much as a driver this season.

its very easy to grow as a driver when the car is crap... most drivers grow on crap cars but when they move on a competitive car from a piece of finnish garbage they usually become kids again....

[COD]

Meeke keeps making these surpise flashes of maturity every now and then. Usually when I finally have sense to leave him out of my pickems

[wrc2017]

Nothing Only Trash

Any update on the % of chances the potato useless dog of garbage has for the title ??? I estimate around 95% but need confirmation...

[KKS]

My thoughts exactly...
Well deserved. Hope he can take the confidence boost and get his bloody act together with it.


Looks like he found a friend in Christophe Besse face, and things improve immediately in the team

[KKS]

I know that Meeke can be fast here, but every time when I was that feeling and put him on no1 at pickems or other betting - he crash. Now I don't put him on any betting and a result - he didn't crash!
And if we all know when Meeke didn't crash - he win :) But it could be more difficult in Wales to him.

[macebig]

Most likely low traction,wet gravel and mud in Wales won't be C3's best friends.Hope it doesn't end in tears once again...

[Mirek]

Happy for Meeke and Citroën, they really needed a boost. Happy for M-Sport and I really really hope Ford marketing managers see that. Happy for Hänninen as well.

Neuville again confirmes that inside his head he isn't a champion. He keeps defeating himself way too often. Overall another disaster for Hyundai.

I still feel bitter for Kopecký. He won all 13 asphalt stages but all was ruined by stupid starting order into the first leg. On the other hand I am fully aware that Suninen drove as fast as he needed and I don't say that without the incident with Serderidis Kopecký would surely won. At least it would be decided by speed.

[mknight]

Congratulations to Meeke and Citroen. Specially important for the future of the team.

First incident-free rally of the season for him. Sure some might say there is no pressure on him now (without any other fast driver in the team on this rally and without any championship chances). But while that is true he still needs to drive faster than all others and win.

For Citroen with the 3 tarmac rallies with 2 different drivers it confirms C3 pace on tarmac and there was also some speed on gravel, but that is hard to judge with road-cleaning and dry stable conditions.
Troublesome that Lefevbre didn't repeat good pace from Poland without even short glimpses of speed. If they get a different Frenchmen to join them next year, his position is in trouble.

Ford likely secured manu title and almost secured drivers title. Very good performance especially from Ogier on Friday. Ogier also had the longest stint of fastest stage times since Portugal or even earlier.

Hyundai had another rally to forget. On Friday Mikkelsen confirmed he is fast, but Neuville struggled... then on tarmac it was the other way around. Decent pace from both Sordo and Neuville but the car looked really terrible in some turns on the TV stages even though the times were good. (Neuville handbraking where others turned just fine, some even without any understeer). They didn't had these issues in Corsica so I wonder if the pre-event changes to aero caused some of this. While the DNFs were due to hitting stuff, Fiestas survived same hits that the 2 Hyundais did not.

Toyota actually had quite a bad rally, even without Lappis off. Sure some good times on smooth high-speed tarmac, but that wasn't much of a surprise after germany day 2/3. What was a negative surprise was the lack of pace on gravel on friday and again reliability issues.

[AnttiL]

I still feel bitter for Kopecký. He won all 13 asphalt stages but all was ruined by stupid starting order into the first leg. On the other hand I am fully aware that Suninen drove as fast as he needed and I don't say that without the incident with Serderidis Kopecký would surely won. At least it would be decided by speed.

Kopecky lost 1:14 to Suninen on Terra Alta 1 where Serderidis' dust blocked him. On the morning loop he was losing about s/km to Suninen, so maybe he would have lost 39 seconds anyway? At the end of the rally Suninen was 31 seconds ahead, so it would have been tight without that incident.

[dimviii]

Michelin video
https://youtu.be/2t99xyNZlJY

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLnJdkSW0AA2Ron.jpg


day 3
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLnJdkSW0AA2Ron.jpg

[MartijnS]

Back in the hotel after some great days! Really enjoyed our visit again. Friday two times Terra Alta, first time a gravel spot and second one downhill tarmac, quite spectacular with the gravel tires!
Saturday we did 4 stages, also some nice fast spots and than even watched the super special in Salou. Today we did the stage of the powerstage twice. Overall another great rally!

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More at: https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallymedia/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1484506244970673 !

[ESTR]

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[doubled1978]

Most likely low traction,wet gravel and mud in Wales won't be C3's best friends.Hope it doesn't end in tears once again...

He needs to do similar to what he did last year in the DS3 in Wales, clean run with no mistakes. If that results in 5th or 6th then so be it. It just doesn't need to end in the trees.....

[pantealex]

Kopecky lost 1:14 to Suninen on Terra Alta 1 where Serderidis' dust blocked him. On the morning loop he was losing about s/km to Suninen, so maybe he would have lost 39 seconds anyway? At the end of the rally Suninen was 31 seconds ahead, so it would have been tight without that incident.

and Suninen also had that power steering failure.

But both did well.

[Rally Power]

Perfect win for Meeke/Nagle and Citroen! Fantastic rally from Ogier and Tanak; it’d be great to see MSport getting the manu title in GB. It’s only missing Ford full support. Hats off for Rally RACC organizers; they’ve managed to run the event without problems, despite Catalunya troubled times. Well done!

[Rally Power]

Kopecky lost 1:14 to Suninen on Terra Alta 1 where Serderidis' dust blocked him. On the morning loop he was losing about s/km to Suninen, so maybe he would have lost 39 seconds anyway? At the end of the rally Suninen was 31 seconds ahead, so it would have been tight without that incident.

Kopecky was in a class of his own on the tarmac stages and he probably would win without first leg dust incidents. Nevertheless, it was nice to see Camilli doing great times on gravel and Suninen improving his pace on tarmac. Btw, Nordgren debut at Skoda wasn’t mind-blowing, still he keep improving all rally long and was able to avoid mistakes; P4 at the end is a good result.

[AnttiL]

and Suninen also had that power steering failure.

True, but I consider that to be a part of the sport, it's a combination of car and driver. Camilli would have won without his diff issues. But having to drive at some slower driver's dust because of a stupid running order is a different thing.


Kopecky was in a class of his own on the tarmac stages and he probably would win without first leg dust incidents.
Like I said, it would have been tight. Did Suninen control his pace with Kopecky far behind? Did Kopecky push like hell because he had nothing to lose? We can't know.



Nevertheless, it was nice to see Camilli doing great times on gravel and Suninen improving his pace on tarmac. Btw, Nordgren debut at Skoda wasn’t mind-blowing, still he keep improving all rally long and was able to avoid mistakes; P4 at the end is a good result.
Agreed. I think Nordgren is maybe pulled too early to the WRC events, he hasn't really driven anywhere else than in Finland (and last year's Rally RACC).

[steve.mandzij]

its very easy to grow as a driver when the car is crap... most drivers grow on crap cars but when they move on a competitive car from a piece of finnish garbage they usually become kids again....Any car that can take Juho Hanninen to the podium is a good car.

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[dimviii]

lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5h8HxwhLSE

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gf_TBRJr9w

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHbbmKToE0M

incar when Neuville hits the stone
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ_zTxPnAxY/

[Atob WRC]

Hello all!!

What an incredible edition of our WRC Rally!!! We are happy with the development of the rally, with a lot of emotion during the 1st and 2ng leg, and showing that in tarmac, all the teams, are able to set fastest times!!

Also, so happy for Kris and Paul, that shows the tests realized next our village in Girona, bring them the luck that lacks during all the season!

Hope enjoy with our video!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D16l5Ze0QN0

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_qAnkzERmU

[Mirek]

Did Kopecky push like hell because he had nothing to lose? We can't know.

IMHO we can because he never drives like that. That simply isn't his way of doing things.

[spiderem]

well hats off to Tanak in my opinion. Really mature drive, complete package now, he will be the number 1 threat to Ogier next year (if he stays at M-Sport)...
Congrats to Meeke too, a victory is a victory.
Ogier proved once more why he is the world champion!
And finally well done to Malcom and his team for building an amazing car.

[turves]

I agree about Tanak. My money is on him for WRGB victory.

[wrc2017]

what the hell was neuville doing in there?
Karlip *
��
‏*@Karlip1
The rock that may have decided the championship #WRC #RallyRACC SS16 @thierryneuville

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLmO22yWkAAZZ6-.jpg

[N.O.T]

what the hell was neuville doing in there?

just potato dog things... he is nothing.

i do not think he will finish any rallies until the end of the season...

[SubaruNorway]

Seems more like it's the edge of the tarmac that breaks it and not the rock to me, pretty dangerous if it happens in a fast cut.

[wrc2017]

?? the edge of tarmac is in line with bonnet vent. He is 2 tyres widths off the tarmac against a cliff face..



Seems more like it's the edge of the tarmac that breaks it and not the rock to me, pretty dangerous if it happens in a fast cut.

[SubaruNorway]

?? the edge of tarmac is in line with bonnet vent. He is 2 tyres widths off the tarmac against a cliff face..

He definitely doesn't hit the cliff face, seems like the car drops into the cut just before the bang. I can see the rock has moved now on Hänninen's onboard but if a loose rock is all that's all it takes then it's not strong enough. If it's inline with the bonnet went then the suspension arm is over the edge and can hook on the edge of the broken tarmac that is there...

[itix]

what the hell was neuville doing in there?If you had watched the stage from the helicopter view you can tell pretty easily that he ran slightly wide in the previous corner and didn't have the time set it up for this corner (it was an S section).

He over cooked it basically.

Still, the rock is not huge and Hyundai should strengthen their suspension components.

[pantealex]

Btw, Nordgren debut at Skoda wasn’t mind-blowing, still he keep improving all rally long and was able to avoid mistakes; P4 at the end is a good result.

Nordgren has driven totally less than 5 events with 4wd car and this was his 1st Tarmac days with 4wd. But yes, not mind-blowing.

[Mirek]

Nobody could realistically expect much more. He did good rally.

[pantealex]

Nobody could realistically expect much more. He did good rally.

and he would be very happy for 4th place in Wales also.

[Mintexmemory]

I can't help myself but old Loeb's words came to my mind seeing the screenshot of Neuville's incident. Loeb has been always saying (especially in Catalunya) that a lot of the cutting is basically meaningless and nobody gets faster with it...
Exactly what I have said since Friday - while in Germany there are clear cuts available the nature of Catalan road construction makes the technique too much of a risk. Young Thierry needs to think more than he does currently to become a credible challenger for WDC

[wrc2017]

His attitude stinks.
Exactly what I have said since Friday - while in Germany there are clear cuts available the nature of Catalan road construction makes the technique too much of a risk. Young Thierry needs to think more than he does currently to become a credible challenger for WDC

[AnttiL]

and he would be very happy for 4th place in Wales also.

Will be more difficult with Tidemand, Veiby and Camilli driving for WRC2 points as well.

[A FONDO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IkwlUcou4w

[dimviii]

Hi everyone,
Sorry for the short delay in getting some thoughts online. I know you all must think it was a heavy party night after our win in Catalunya but in fact there were a lot of press and PR commitments, and a really nice team dinner, and then I drove back home really late at night. I’ve needed a ride on my bike this morning just to get properly woken up!
Anyway, it was pretty much a perfect weekend in Spain. The key day for us was always going to be the Friday, because we had to stay in the lead bunch during those stages. We knew even before we got to Spain how much potential the C3 WRC has on asphalt, but we had to be in a position to exploit it.
We didn’t have a perfect day on Friday, frankly; we made not the perfect tyre choice in the morning, because we went too soft on the package and we got caught out towards the end of the final stage of that loop.

The tyres overheated and delaminated. That cost us 10 to 15 seconds. Then I had a spin on the first stage after service and we lost another five seconds or so.
So it was a little bit frustrating but we did managed to stay in touch with the lead; we were only three seconds or so away from it on Friday night.
We hadn’t done any testing in Spain on the asphalt so that probably gave me an extra lift and motivation on the Saturday morning. I was telling myself, ‘I’m not going to be caught cold on this surface, against these guys who’ve done their testing on Spanish tarmac. I’m going to hit the ground running.’ And fortunately for me, that turned the tide. We were able to catch a few of the other guys on the hop and pull out an advantage.

From then on, the car just gave me so much confidence. It was a pleasure to drive. You’ll have seen that on the Sunday; I was driving open and freely, and it was a really nice experience to be able to drive with a smile on my face again.
It’s another box ticked, for sure, to win on asphalt in the WRC. And in Spain; as I finished the last stage, I remembered walking up the same road 20 years ago to watch Colin McRae in the Subaru. I never thought back then that I’d even drive a rally car, let alone be in a position to win the Rally Catalunya myself.
I’m delighted for everyone in the team. It’s a timely boost for everyone after a very difficult period. We always knew the C3 was fast, and we’ve showed it.

We have to take care, though, because this doesn’t change the world in terms of the wider, overall championship. We still need to work in certain areas. But a victory always helps, and it gives everyone in the Citroen Racing team a boost going into Rally GB.
We’ve another test coming soon - for Wales but not in Wales, if you know what I mean - but hopefully everyone now can work in a calmer way and we can use this as a stepping stone.
Thanks, as always, for your support,
Kris

https://www.facebook.com/krismeeke

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2017/bog_26800.jpg

[dimviii]

http://int-media.citroen.com/en/citro%C3%ABn-racing-gets-back-winning-ways

[dimviii]

limiter at top gear

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/917347570527195137

[BigWorm]

Exactly what I have said since Friday - while in Germany there are clear cuts available the nature of Catalan road construction makes the technique too much of a risk. Young Thierry needs to think more than he does currently to become a credible challenger for WDC

First season he's contesting for title, these mistakes are bound to happen and they have. Ogier already knows what to do and he gets what needs, simply masterful.

Thierry has been runner up in the championship two times, but rather than losing out on the title he has beaten the others to the second spot. This season has been a new experience for him, being in the hunt for the title but now likely to lose it (if it isn't already settled..). I'm sure it makes him better for 2018.

[A FONDO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOSpkZd9HTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvjsCKAKNeI

[A FONDO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxnXxgSnJ8 1:50 !

[tommeke_B]

Not sure if posted already, Lappi: https://www.facebook.com/www.Rally.it/videos/10154225483357614/

[A FONDO]

Hi everyone,
Sorry for the short delay in getting some thoughts online. I know you all must think it was a heavy party night after our win in Catalunya but in fact there were a lot of press and PR commitments, and a really nice team dinner, and then I drove back home really late at night. I’ve needed a ride on my bike this morning just to get properly woken up!
Anyway, it was pretty much a perfect weekend in Spain. The key day for us was always going to be the Friday, because we had to stay in the lead bunch during those stages. We knew even before we got to Spain how much potential the C3 WRC has on asphalt, but we had to be in a position to exploit it.
We didn’t have a perfect day on Friday, frankly; we made not the perfect tyre choice in the morning, because we went too soft on the package and we got caught out towards the end of the final stage of that loop.

The tyres overheated and delaminated. That cost us 10 to 15 seconds. Then I had a spin on the first stage after service and we lost another five seconds or so.
So it was a little bit frustrating but we did managed to stay in touch with the lead; we were only three seconds or so away from it on Friday night.
We hadn’t done any testing in Spain on the asphalt so that probably gave me an extra lift and motivation on the Saturday morning. I was telling myself, ‘I’m not going to be caught cold on this surface, against these guys who’ve done their testing on Spanish tarmac. I’m going to hit the ground running.’ And fortunately for me, that turned the tide. We were able to catch a few of the other guys on the hop and pull out an advantage.

From then on, the car just gave me so much confidence. It was a pleasure to drive. You’ll have seen that on the Sunday; I was driving open and freely, and it was a really nice experience to be able to drive with a smile on my face again.
It’s another box ticked, for sure, to win on asphalt in the WRC. And in Spain; as I finished the last stage, I remembered walking up the same road 20 years ago to watch Colin McRae in the Subaru. I never thought back then that I’d even drive a rally car, let alone be in a position to win the Rally Catalunya myself.
I’m delighted for everyone in the team. It’s a timely boost for everyone after a very difficult period. We always knew the C3 was fast, and we’ve showed it.

We have to take care, though, because this doesn’t change the world in terms of the wider, overall championship. We still need to work in certain areas. But a victory always helps, and it gives everyone in the Citroen Racing team a boost going into Rally GB.
We’ve another test coming soon - for Wales but not in Wales, if you know what I mean - but hopefully everyone now can work in a calmer way and we can use this as a stepping stone.
Thanks, as always, for your support,
Kris

https://www.facebook.com/krismeeke

This is definitely not written by him or a British person at all, however it was one of his best wins and I want to see if he could repeat holding a rally with the same approach soon. Best case scenario, he does and it appears that hematures 10-15 years later than average; worst case - crash on the 3rd stage of the next rally.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLsyykcX0AAhqJM.jpg

Gary Boyd‏*
@KiwiWRCfan

* Dani Sordo's power stage win was Hyundai's 70th stage win of 2017
* Kris Meeke now has 1 more 2017 stage win than Seb Ogier
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLsR61mVYAAr7xD.jpg

[dimviii]

very interesting the stage rally leaders.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLtI5GYX4AME8Ea.jpg

[Mirek]

very interesting the stage rally leaders

That statistics is strongly influenced by the starting order, i.e. championship leader rarely leads the event in its first half.

[mknight]

That statistics is strongly influenced by the starting order, i.e. championship leader rarely leads the event in its first half.

Precisely. 1/2 or more of that are due to road cleaning on gravel rallies.

[dimviii]

That statistics is strongly influenced by the starting order, i.e. championship leader rarely leads the event in its first half.

yes you are right,but 13 stages for a champion are way few,compared with 12 for Lappi,17 for Evans and 38 for Meeke.
Shows the intelligence of Ogier,while being ''slow'' he will be champion.

[ESTR]

MEEKE had best tutor/master. One & only Colin McRae. He just died too early and have no chance teach him all. That's why he is so unreliable.

[BigWorm]

MEEKE had best tutor/master. One & only Colin McRae. He just died too early and have no chance teach him all. That's why he is so unreliable.
....so you mean Meeke hasn’t developed since 2007?

If anything, there were, and still are, better drivers to learn ”reliable” driving from than McRae.

[Andre Oliveira]

That Colin collage is nauseate. Every time, every interview. Come on Kris! You value by you. Stop it, be confident!

[Simorally86]

Second time in Catalunya since 2003, has been a good rally, 10 stages watched and the end of the power stage, quite a good score! The tarmac stages are awsome! Here some pics from the weekend :

http://www.actionrally.com/2017-Season/53-RallyRACC-Spain/

https://www.facebook.com/pg/ActionRally/photos/?tab=album&album_id=891184191035623

See ya in Wales ;)

[dimviii]

Second time in Catalunya since 2003, has been a good rally, 10 stages watched and the end of the power stage, quite a good score! The tarmac stages are awsome! Here some pics from the weekend :

http://www.actionrally.com/2017-Season/53-RallyRACC-Spain/

https://www.facebook.com/pg/ActionRally/photos/?tab=album&album_id=891184191035623

See ya in Wales ;)

some nice photos mate!!



wtf? https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/lipssealed.gifhttps://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/omg.gif

https://photos.smugmug.com/2017-Season/53-RallyRACC-Spain/i-z5L5DTV/0/fcd0c2c9/XL/8-XL.jpg

[mknight]

MEEKE had best tutor/master. One & only Colin McRae. He just died too early and have no chance teach him all. That's why he is so unreliable.

Didn't quite notice Colin getting reliable in his later years...

[Tarmop]

Wonder why ewrc gives 77 stage wins to Fiesta and 70 (like in Boyds chart) to i20?

[ESTR]

Didn't quite notice Colin getting reliable in his later years...

hahaha I was joking

[Munkvy]

Second time in Catalunya since 2003, has been a good rally, 10 stages watched and the end of the power stage, quite a good score! The tarmac stages are awsome! Here some pics from the weekend :

http://www.actionrally.com/2017-Season/53-RallyRACC-Spain/

https://www.facebook.com/pg/ActionRally/photos/?tab=album&album_id=891184191035623

See ya in Wales ;)

What were your impressions from being there in person...?

[AnttiL]

Wonder why ewrc gives 77 stage wins to Fiesta and 70 (like in Boyds chart) to i20?

Neuville drove Autoglym rally in Finland and Østberg did Rally Hedemarken?

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/8AH2nf4Bc5Q

[Simmi]

Back home after a great rally. Really nice event in a great social setting. Couple that with the gravel and tarmac you really do have the best of both worlds. Made up for Meeke. He crashed right in front of me in Germany on the SSS and honestly I didn't know how he was going to come back from that. As soon as it hit tarmac that C3 was absolutely on rails.

Big storylines, action and unpredictability in every event. The WRC really is in a great place right now.

I got my photos uploaded if anyone fancies a look: https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/albums/72157686023586812

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4453/37553214726_e087e8f795_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Zds3pq)6 (https://flic.kr/p/Zds3pq) by Richard Simpson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4460/37553203446_4ede467c69_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ZdrZ3W)27 (https://flic.kr/p/ZdrZ3W) by Richard Simpson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4497/37343418350_80de4652a7_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YTUMfw)2 (https://flic.kr/p/YTUMfw) by Richard Simpson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4489/37343417880_0d37c69468_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YTUM7q)3 (https://flic.kr/p/YTUM7q) by Richard Simpson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4489/23749294068_7c14145fd6_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CbDkHo)8 (https://flic.kr/p/CbDkHo) by Richard Simpson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4481/37343418540_31c3624b83_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YTUMiN)1 (https://flic.kr/p/YTUMiN) by Richard Simpson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4477/37553215396_eb1a6c6ef3_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Zds3AY)5 (https://flic.kr/p/Zds3AY) by Richard Simpson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/), on Flickr

[AndyRAC]

Rally RACC actually has a Sunday that's better than virtually all the other event; including a nice early start - 74km is a decent amount; far better than the 40-ish km quite a lot of events go for. If you have Sunday; then make it worthwhile.

[wrc2017]

you sad bastards. i believe Kris actually lived with McRae family, and without him he woundnt have a career. so fucking show some respect.
Didn't quite notice Colin getting reliable in his later years...

[AnttiL]

Rally RACC actually has a Sunday that's better than virtually all the other event; including a nice early start - 74km is a decent amount; far better than the 40-ish km quite a lot of events go for. If you have Sunday; then make it worthwhile.

But it comes at the cost of the other days, friday and saturday was just three stages ran twice. And even them were run very quickly after each other, the wrc radio couldn't even interview all drivers before the first ones were already in the finish of the next one, it made the days kinda silly with a rush of stages and then lots of waiting.

[mknight]

But it comes at the cost of the other days, friday and saturday was just three stages ran twice. And even them were run very quickly after each other, the wrc radio couldn't even interview all drivers before the first ones were already in the finish of the next one, it made the days kinda silly with a rush of stages and then lots of waiting.

For me this is another advantage. I can follow on PC for 2 hours then go (out) and do something else for a few hours I instead of 30 min breaks between all the time.

[AnttiL]

For me this is another advantage. I can follow on PC for 2 hours then go (out) and do something else for a few hours I instead of 30 min breaks between all the time.

yeh, there's two sides to this. But I'd just love to have a proper rally following day, I usually just put on the WRC radio and do other things meanwhile. When the stages overlap, it's hard to follow the WRC2 guys or even the rest of the WRC cars.

[dimviii]

another photo of the point

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2017/post-18-0-14946600-1507648411.jpg

[Rally Power]

No idea if someone has mentioned before: Wilson actually asked Tanak to ease up, after Sunday’s first loop.

Q:
How hard were you pushing on the final day?
OT:
For sure I was doing my best. I couldn’t make any mistakes because of the points – I was close to the limit. In the morning, we never had the gap more than one second [between Ogier and Tanak], it was close. After the break I had a phone call from Malcolm [Wilson, team principal]. He was laughing for about 10 seconds, but then he said: “That’s enough now.” Then we have really good points. I knew Seb is kind of controlling this thing and I didn’t have any tools to beat him today. This is how it had to end.

Full post event conference https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-kmeeke-c3-tarmac-really-something-special-drive

[EstWRC]

Yes, this was written already on sunday in estonian media that Wilson used teamorders.

[racerx1979]

Well there we go. It was going to happen sooner or later for Ott since he is now battling at the top.

[mknight]

another photo of the point

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2017/post-18-0-14946600-1507648411.jpg

Yeah and this is how Tanak's wheel looked like from that...

but still it was on the car.. not trailing on the side like Hyundais, sure they could have been a few cms more to the side, or (more likely in view) their wheels were turned more out.

Anyway quite lucky he got no loss of air from that. Also remember one of his rims looked about the same after PowerStage in germany.

[Ucci]

Yes, this was written already on sunday in estonian media that Wilson used teamorders.
Thank god that Malcom used teamorders. This may be also the reason that M-Sport had two drivers on the podium...and not in the ditch or with provoked technical troubles due to driving over the limit....

[N.O.T]

Back home after a great rally. Really nice event in a great social setting. Couple that with the gravel and tarmac you really do have the best of both worlds. Made up for Meeke. He crashed right in front of me in Germany on the SSS and honestly I didn't know how he was going to come back from that. As soon as it hit tarmac that C3 was absolutely on rails.

Big storylines, action and unpredictability in every event. The WRC really is in a great place right now.

I got my photos uploaded if anyone fancies a look



nice pictures kid... but you are not a pro... too little photoshop/filter crap and no lakes or flowers and too much focus on the cars...

i am dissapointed...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Thank god that Malcom used teamorders. This may be also the reason that M-Sport had two drivers on the podium...and not in the ditch or with provoked technical troubles due to driving over the limit....

Exactly.


And 'team-orders' is a bit of an exaggeration. Telling your second driver to hold position when he is already behind your leader and has an inferior car (gravel gearbox) is just common sense.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL26TVbWAAAojHa.jpg

[tommeke_B]

https://www.facebook.com/fzrvideo/videos/2022050667808713/ Stunning to see such a situation being taken flat out.

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/fzrvideo/videos/2022050667808713/ Stunning to see such a situation being taken flat out.

best spot from Spain till now,bravo to the uploader!!I want more cars from this spot.

[Allez Andruet]

https://www.facebook.com/fzrvideo/videos/2022050667808713/ Stunning to see such a situation being taken flat out.

Any idea, what stage is this from? Would love to check the onboard.

[MartijnS]

Yes seriously epic. Perfect spot.

[dimviii]

reminds me a bit like this from Loeb tests for Monte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlvasUE2HUo

[Rally Power]

Exactly. And 'team-orders' is a bit of an exaggeration. Telling your second driver to hold position when he is already behind your leader and has an inferior car (gravel gearbox) is just common sense.

So, Wilson calling his drivers to ease up is just common sense…let’s see what you’ll say on other team bosses in the future. ;)

Btw, at the end of SS16 Tanak was 1.8s behind Ogier and during the morning the French was only 0.25s faster than him; he looked prepared to fight for P2 till the end.

[Duvel]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL26TVbWAAAojHa.jpg

Seems like a cool spot, do you know where it is?

[tommeke_B]

Seems like a cool spot, do you know where it is?

SS Terra Alta. 41°11'24.58"N ; 0°23'44.31"E

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/YNWek3UkzWg

[dimviii]

the same cut for all drivers at this video.
from these cameras seems that fiestas cutted like hyundais.You can watch the big bump was visible inside the cars.Of course again few centimetres could do the difference.
The irony is that Meeke had the cleanest pass from this spot
https://www.facebook.com/FanClubTNNG/videos/1447111482010660/

[mknight]

the same cut for all drivers at this video.
from these cameras seems that fiestas cutted like hyundais.You can watch the big bump was visible inside the cars.Of course again few centimetres could do the difference.
The irony is that Meeke had the cleanest pass from this spot
https://www.facebook.com/FanClubTNNG/videos/1447111482010660/

It's also hard to compare passes between different cars due to slightly different camera placement.
But I agree that especially Tanak was as much in as Sordo/Mikkelsen (and the damaged wheel confirms that). Neuville was imo visible more left than them.

Note the person warning Meeke just before the turn on the left. In the WRC highlights they said it was Sordo. None of the other drivers get any warning as far as I can seen.

[MartijnS]

Well, they are good friends based on social media posts, so maybe thats why he's only warning him.

[Myrvold]

Note the person warning Meeke just before the turn on the left. In the WRC highlights they said it was Sordo. None of the other drivers get any warning as far as I can seen.

Ye, seen some talk about Sordo warning everyone except Mikkelsen due to Mikkelsen coming in and "stealing" a seat. Don't look like that's the case.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So, Wilson calling his drivers to ease up is just common sense…let’s see what you’ll say on other team bosses in the future. ;)

Btw, at the end of SS16 Tanak was 1.8s behind Ogier and during the morning the French was only 0.25s faster than him; he looked prepared to fight for P2 till the end.

So what, they should fight and risk both their positions and team points with Hyundai in disaray ?

[AL14]

I don't get all the fuss about possible team orders to hold the positions between Tanak and Ogier.
Do you really think Malcom ora any other team boss would risk both championships because team orders are bad? What was the point NOT TO give team orders in that occasion?

[Rally Power]

I don't get all the fuss about possible team orders to hold the positions between Tanak and Ogier.
Do you really think Malcom ora any other team boss would risk both championships because team orders are bad? What was the point NOT TO give team orders in that occasion?

No one is doing a fuss mate, just mentioning the fact that one title contender told in a press conference he was ordered to ease up. Why should we (and the press, btw) ignore it? Especially when the order came from the same team boss that a couple of days before publicly announced there would not be any orders at all?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

'Team orders' in rallying has a bad connotation, as it usually implies an inferior driver being told to slow to let a better one pass.

But in this case the driver in front was the No.1. The No.2 driver was behind and with a car with an issue (gravel gearbox).

There is no big fuss being made in this case, as no-one thinks telling the No.2 driver to hold station is in any way a bad thing. Ogier & Tanak were not neck-and-neck for the title - Ogier had a clear lead.

M-Sport were about to virtually ensure the Manufacturer's championship AND have a 1-2 in the Driver's. No sane person would put that at risk by fighting among themselves.

[jparker]

There is nothing wrong with team orders, as long as both drivers are OK with it. Was Tanak happy? I don't know, hope he was.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

There is nothing wrong with team orders, as long as both drivers are OK with it. Was Tanak happy? I don't know, hope he was.

Whether he was happy or not was irrelevant... it's a team sport.

If he thought fighting Ogier was a sensible idea at that point in the rally/season then he has a lot to learn.

[Tarmop]

Well, i think he was ok, because they were allowed to compete pretty much from the 2. half of 2. day till the 2. half of 3. day. Ogier was raising his advantage, there wasn`t much point and if there would have been a mistake from Ogier, then probably he would`ve beaten him.

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2017/post-144-0-28151300-1507829083.jpg


some nice photos here
http://motors-photos.jalbum.net/Rallye%20de%20Catalogne%202017/

[Duvel]

best spot from Spain till now,bravo to the uploader!!I want more cars from this spot.

Anyone know where it is?

[Allez Andruet]

Anyone know where it is?

Judging by the onboards, the spot seems to be on Savallà stage (SS9/SS12) @ approx. 1:30 mark.

[A FONDO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQddjarF4t4

[GigiGalliNo1]

I have to read this whole thread

What a Rally to attend! I loved capturing the cars on Tarmac, certainly loved the mixed surface... but Sardegna is much more special over Spain!

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[GigiGalliNo1]

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[BigWorm]

Just saw Ogier has 198 points now, the same total of points as Citroën. Citroën doesn't get points for PS but still, quite fascinating.

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2017/dwi_17-11spa_ogier0003.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2017/dwi_17-11spa_neuville0011.jpg
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https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2017/dwi_17-11spa_meeke0004.jpg

https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/36021-rallyracc-catalunya-costa-daurada-2017/335/

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMMJHzAWAAA34bW?format=jpg&name=large
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[Andre Oliveira]

https://ewrc-results.com/video/24049-rally-racc-rally-de-espana-2017-epic/

[papar007]

2:53 omg